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[Red Rick]

Probably, but if he faces any resistance at the Vuelta then i am afraid he will loose that big time as well.

The simple thing si we won't know *** until the Vuelta, unless he does a clear Vuelta prep race.

He was 3rd best in the easiest 2 mountain stages in the TdF last year while coming in underprepared, and I don't think there would be any clear reason why he can't reach that level again.

The biggest reason to be undercooked in Tirreno also applied in Itzulia and it also applies now. Nothing particularly changed, other than it's even clearer he's not here for a result and he doesn't particularly give a *** about a top 10.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The simple thing si we won't know *** until the Vuelta, unless he does a clear Vuelta prep race.

He was 3rd best in the easiest 2 mountain stages in the TdF last year while coming in underprepared, and I don't think there would be any clear reason why he can't reach that level again.

The biggest reason to be undercooked in Tirreno also applied in Itzulia and it also applies now. Nothing particularly changed, other than it's even clearer he's not here for a result and he doesn't particularly give a *** about a top 10.

If none of the three mutants appear at the Vuelta and Rogla reaches good level then he could go for #5. Still, there could be dangerous rivals there i.e. if Almeida recovers and goes to Spain and likely a few other guys.

 

[Berniece]

I don’t think RBH is the meme team here, Lipowitz just has a soft personality. So now Roglic needs to drop back lose time to show clearly that Lipo can just go for GC

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

At 36, only the present matters; what he did in two stages a year ago is irrelevant. This season he hasn't been one of his strongest; on some days, he's not even among the top five.His victory in the Vuelta depends on no one joining the current, very weak, start list.

 

[AlfaLum]

At 36, only the present matters; what he did in two stages a year ago is irrelevant. This season he hasn't been one of his strongest; on some days, he's not even among the top five.His victory in the Vuelta depends on no one joining the current, very weak, start list.

Tejada could prove to be hard opposition for Roglic because Roglic doesnt give a sh*t anymore.

 

[Red Rick]

I don’t think RBH is the meme team here, Lipowitz just has a soft personality. So now Roglic needs to drop back lose time to show clearly that Lipo can just go for GC

Nah I don't think that.

The most plausible reason is they wanted to really rip it from the bottom of that climb and Roglic was the only one they thought could make it hard enough to set up an attack. I'm not saying it's correct, but it's the only explanation i can see for the tactics.

Lipowitz took good moments to attack actually, he just happens to have the acceleration of a beached whale.

 

[Berniece]

Nah I don't think that.

The most plausible reason is they wanted to really rip it from the bottom of that climb and Roglic was the only one they thought could make it hard enough to set up an attack. I'm not saying it's correct, but it's the only explanation i can see for the tactics.

Lipowitz took good moments to attack actually, he just happens to have the acceleration of a beached whale.

And you can wonder why others are closing the gap to him. Instead of letting Pogacar or Godon do that

 

[Red Rick]

And you can wonder why others are closing the gap to him. Instead of letting Pogacar or Godon do that

Tbh I'm mainly wondering why Pogacar wasn't just countering over the top because he seemed like he easily could.

 

[Faserr]

Lipowitz took good moments to attack actually, he just happens to have the acceleration of a beached whale.

Timmy Lipowitz.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Beautiful pull on stage 2, considering Ineos chased all day UAE boys were relatively fresh, then Rogla reduced them and isolated Pogi and then the team took over. Going after stage win it is then for this race.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Jaunpass has ski resort, the question i guess remains on first or second or third pass.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Jaunpass has ski resort, the question i guess remains on first or second pass.

Maybe they can invent a special Maillot Jaun for him.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Maybe they can invent a special Maillot Jaun for him.

Nah original is just fine plus Rogla has a lot of such souvenirs at home already. A win is a win, though.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Beautiful pull on stage 2, considering Ineos chased all day UAE boys were relatively fresh, then Rogla reduced them and isolated Pogi and then the team took over. Going after stage win it is then for this race.

Pogi himself said he liked Rogla's pace. Well done Primoz, helping his compatriot win the stage by tiring his opponents.

 

[Rackham]

There's a scenario here where what we're seeing is simply a case of Rogla doing a G Thomas in his prep this season insofar as he just lets the engine operate in low power mode during his prep races and then dials things up for the main event. We'll see.

 

[tobydawq]

Lipowitz took good moments to attack actually, he just happens to have the acceleration of a beached whale.

One of your better analogies, I'd have to say.

I (unseriously) fear that Roglic is suffering from early-onset dementia. Too many baffling decisions the past couple of years.

 

[Red Rick]

One of your better analogies, I'd have to say.

I (unseriously) fear that Roglic is suffering from early-onset dementia. Too many baffling decisions the past couple of years.

I was careful to not say he is as explosive as a beached whale because whale carcasses are known to explode

 

[Salvarani]

There's a scenario here where what we're seeing is simply a case of Rogla doing a G Thomas in his prep this season insofar as he just lets the engine operate in low power mode during his prep races and then dials things up for the main event. We'll see.

I see that being a strategy for sure... but he still started pretty good in T-A and Milano-Torino. Not just being there for vibes and miles.

Thats why I am bit hesitant on buying that theory but it may have potentially changed into that now.

I dont question Roglic may still be able to be good over three weeks in the Vuelta and achieve a great result. Winning depends on who he is up against. I would see podium as a very good achievement at this stage of his career, if nothing else, or a big stage-win for a last great moment.

 

[acm]

There's a scenario here where what we're seeing is simply a case of Rogla doing a G Thomas in his prep this season insofar as he just lets the engine operate in low power mode during his prep races and then dials things up for the main event. We'll see.

Yeah and it's the first time he's doing this. Fingers crossed it'll work out.

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah and it's the first time he's doing this. Fingers crossed it'll work out.

He's still levels above the *** that Geraint Thomas did outside of 1 GT (+prep race) per year

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I know that a loss of motivation is natural at this point in his career, family is getting more important and it's probably harder to get motivated if you can't compete for the win at the biggest races like you did for most of your career.

I still wish he did things differently in the last 3 years though. Should not have joined bora. Should not have done the giro last year. Should be doing a totally different programme this year.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Two stages now on where Rogla and Pogi where at the front and the rest was severely suffering at the back. Some early stage of greatness right there.

 

[Red Rick]

I know that a loss of motivation is natural at this point in his career, family is getting more important and it's probably harder to get motivated if you can't compete for the win at the biggest races like you did for most of your career.

I still wish he did things differently in the last 3 years though. Should not have joined bora. Should not have done the giro last year. Should be doing a totally different programme this year.

Going to the Giro was fine. Doing the Tdf after was a bigger issue. Not doing Giro/Tour may change the approach to the Giro itself as well and he may have come in in better form.

In my view Vingegaard in the 2025 Vuelta wasn't better on average than Roglic in the 2024 Vuelta.

 

[CyclistAbi]

He was great at Giro and certainly in it to win the overall. Unfortunately crash fest followed. Without that Giro/Tour campaign would IMHO turn out great. In the end no need to cry about it it's the nature of this sport that crashes and injuries will prevent you from winning all the time.

 

[kamaveli]

Yesterday we saw something rare. Roglič was clearly pissed off as he crossed the finish line. I probably would have been too if I’d worked into a headwind on the final climb for absolutely nothing.

After seeing that, I hope Rogla continues for another year in a different team. RBH clearly has no clue how they’re supposed to operate as a team and manage all their riders.