Fabio Aru 6.5w/kg

[Saint Unix]

Finally someone has turned up to the Tour being Froome-level doped.

And it's this guy.

 

[ontheroad]

Have we finally got someone on a sufficient program to challenge Froome, maybe Aru is the one. Long solo attacks are his speciality, this could yet be an interesting race, that was impressive. Quintana looks a bust flush and Porte is spooked by Froome so I think its a 2 horse race now.

 

[Red Rick]

That was mutant alright.

 

[Netserk]

Was he faster than Froome '12?

 

[masking_agent]

If Aru goes on to beat Froome handily , and with Astana's reputation, there is no doubt he will raise eyebrows if not already. It seems to be Aru has received better dosages in the last little while or increased them, while Froome due to the scrutiny has lessened his doses from his doctors.

 

[jilbiker]

Astana have a nice program, hey it Vino in charge. Fulsang at the Daulphine was a red herring to throw off folks while they got Aru all ready. Still have my doubts on Aru though that he can hold a lead or form for 3 weeks.

 

[Electress]

Re:

If Aru goes on to beat Froome handily , and with Astana's reputation, there is no doubt he will raise eyebrows if not already. It seems to be Aru has received better dosages in the last little while or increased them, while Froome due to the scrutiny has lessened his doses from his doctors.

Cannot wait for the unique hypocrisy of UK Sports journos criticising Astana given all the jiffy bag shenanigans in the background. I'm not sure even the most ardent fan could do it with a straight face!

 

[Brullnux]

The Nibali cocktail worked brilliantly then. Let it continue thus

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

Astana have a nice program, hey it Vino in charge. Fulsang at the Daulphine was a red herring to throw off folks while they got Aru all ready. Still have my doubts on Aru though that he can hold a lead or form for 3 weeks.

He is a GT winner. La Vuelta'15 and 2 Giro podiums. He does tend to have a bad day over 3 weeks but maybe Vino has that sorted.

I have sneaky feeling this might be Dan Martin's year. Not because he is strongest, he is strong, but due to luck.

 

[May0maniac]

Re:

Was he faster than Froome '12?

Apparently yes.
https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/882632441999089665

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Re: Re:

Astana have a nice program, hey it Vino in charge. Fulsang at the Daulphine was a red herring to throw off folks while they got Aru all ready. Still have my doubts on Aru though that he can hold a lead or form for 3 weeks.

He is a GT winner. La Vuelta'15 and 2 Giro podiums. He does tend to have a bad day over 3 weeks but maybe Vino has that sorted.

I have sneaky feeling this might be Dan Martin's year. Not because he is strongest, he is strong, but due to luck.

Even with a bad day you can win a GT. Froome has had bad days virtually every GT (at least 1), if you limit the damage you're ok.

So no doubt if Aru can limit damage on a bad day and hurt Froome in other mountains, he can challenge.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Astana have a nice program, hey it Vino in charge. Fulsang at the Daulphine was a red herring to throw off folks while they got Aru all ready. Still have my doubts on Aru though that he can hold a lead or form for 3 weeks.

He is a GT winner. La Vuelta'15 and 2 Giro podiums. He does tend to have a bad day over 3 weeks but maybe Vino has that sorted.

I have sneaky feeling this might be Dan Martin's year. Not because he is strongest, he is strong, but due to luck.

Even with a bad day you can win a GT. Froome has had bad days virtually every GT (at least 1), if you limit the damage you're ok.

So no doubt if Aru can limit damage on a bad day and hurt Froome in other mountains, he can challenge.

Not disagreeing with that. Limiting the bad day loss is the key to winning any GT.

 

[SeriousSam]

, Stage 5. La Planche des Belles Filles (5.80 km, 8.66 %, 502 m) Fabio Aru: 16 min 12 sec, 21.48 Kph, VAM 1859 m/h, 6.49 W/kg [DrF]

Thread continues to be aptly named

 

[Cookster15]

This bloke was injured suddenly comes back super strong at the Dauphine and has jumped another level at the tour where everyone is at their top level. Hmmm.

 

[thehog]

Re:

, Stage 5. La Planche des Belles Filles (5.80 km, 8.66 %, 502 m) Fabio Aru: 16 min 12 sec, 21.48 Kph, VAM 1859 m/h, 6.49 W/kg [DrF]

Thread continues to be aptly named

If you bold, at least bold the time. 6.5 for 16 mins is strong but not insane. The watts/kg is on translatable dependent on the total time the value was held for.

 

[Benotti69]

Antoine VAYER‏ @festinaboy 50 minutes ago

Aru is 6,65 Watts/kg PDBFilles

 

[miguelindurain111]

Dottore's formula underestimates when >8.5 %, >6.0 W/kg and rider <65 kg. But I think 6.5 W/kg quite accurate due to drafting and tailwind.

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/882667928180719617

 

[Escarabajo]

Re:

This bloke was injured suddenly comes back super strong at the Dauphine and has jumped another level at the tour where everyone is at their top level. Hmmm.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Escarabajo]

Remember that this is a short effort. Don't expect to be around the expected 6 watts/kg. What is damning to me is coming from no competition and from injury at the level that he came back a month ago at the Dauphine.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Unless he completely spent everything to win this stage, and hopes to recuperate over the next few days until the weekend, I have to agree with you.

If Aru ends up pushing Froome to Paris...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Aru should ending up pushing Froome until Paris with this form and without an off-day, I cannot see how he shouldnt. Guy is a born and bold attacker.

 

[SeriousSam]

Re: Re:

, Stage 5. La Planche des Belles Filles (5.80 km, 8.66 %, 502 m) Fabio Aru: 16 min 12 sec, 21.48 Kph, VAM 1859 m/h, 6.49 W/kg [DrF]

Thread continues to be aptly named

If you bold, at least bold the time. 6.5 for 16 mins is strong but not insane. The watts/kg is on translatable dependent on the total time the value was held for.

Just thought it's amusing that it happens to be 6.5w/kg given the title of the thread.

For the record, I've never thought that estimated wattages of any kind comprise particularly strong evidence for doping or its absence.

 

[alspacka]

Re:

Was he faster than Froome '12?

There is a road sign at the summit showing Froome's winning ascent time of 16'11. The line was in the same place for sure.

 

[meat puppet]

Re:

The Nibali cocktail worked brilliantly then. Let it continue thus

Yes. But Aru seems to have upped the ante too. Apparently there is finally someone on a sky scale program. Maybe he can challenge the dawg.

Will be hilarious to observe the innuendo and/or direct finger pointing from the anglophone sports media. And then there is walsh, who cannot enjoy this.

 

[red_flanders]

Re:

This bloke was injured suddenly comes back super strong at the Dauphine and has jumped another level at the tour where everyone is at their top level. Hmmm.

Yes, everyone has jumped up to "their top level", some after quite a mediocre set of results in the lead up to the Tour. Today Aru was not marked, and made the most of it. Great timing, great ride. Remains to be seen if he can get away when marked.

Not sure who in the top 10 today isn't beyond suspicious.