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Out of the Giro.
Anyone knows why? I know he was dropped on the first climb, something wrong?
Anyone knows why? I know he was dropped on the first climb, something wrong?
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Not saying Folifornov's performance wasn't strange but Aru having the ITT of his live while having the worst shape he's had in years is so completely weird.
I disagree. Foliforov took it easy on the queen stage which was the day before the MTT. Before this year's TT there was a rest day...johnymax said:Good one, thank you. The Foliforov win probably takes the cake.search said:johnymax said:
ohh, Foliforov won the MTT just two years ago
two years exactly btw
Not saying Folifornov's performance wasn't strange but Aru having the ITT of his live while having the worst shape he's had in years is so completely weird.
- Jul 28, 2015
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Gazzetta reports that Aru could ride Adriatica Ionica Race and then the Tour because he need "il riscatto" soon and they think that Vuelta is too far away and Austria and Poland are not prestigious. Saronni also said that if he won't be Italy leader he shouldn't ride the WC.
To me seems a delirium what he thinks, what Saronni thinks and even what the journalist thinks.
To me seems a delirium what he thinks, what Saronni thinks and even what the journalist thinks.
Yes they've completely lost their minds (journalists, aru and his team). Saronni said that if aru won't be the captain he won't ride the Worlds.
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I always thought that Aru is not more than a top ten rider, sporadically better in case of low level opposition when he avoid the bad days for three weeks, that in some days could pull very high level performances and beat everyone and in some others could crack and lose significant time but if you read the Gazzetta or watch the De Stefano talk show on Rai they overhype him like some here use to do with the Colombians or even more.
And that probably isn't the only problem neither the bigger, I fear that he also convinced himself that he's a contender for every GT he enters, the fact that he accepted a 3 millions per year deal for three year can only confirm that, and cracked mentally when he realized what his real level was. He should be smart and reasses his focuses for the future, if he continues in this way he could be already done.
And that probably isn't the only problem neither the bigger, I fear that he also convinced himself that he's a contender for every GT he enters, the fact that he accepted a 3 millions per year deal for three year can only confirm that, and cracked mentally when he realized what his real level was. He should be smart and reasses his focuses for the future, if he continues in this way he could be already done.
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Let's hope that he doesn't end like the last big Italian gc prospect that left Martinelli and signed with Saronni:
Yes, it's really stupid and totally delusional.EroicaStradeBianche said:
Let's hope that he doesn't end like the last big Italian gc prospect that left Martinelli and signed with Saronni:
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I don't agree with this
I think he was really one of the best GC contenders in 2014-2015, but may be he has reached his highest level sooner than others, who continue to improve
Nirvana said:
I don't agree with this
I think he was really one of the best GC contenders in 2014-2015, but may be he has reached his highest level sooner than others, who continue to improve
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Well, saronni's team is the good one to earn a lot of money to decline. Pozzato was fighting with Boonen in 2012, he signed a big contract with lampre for 2013 and his career has been pretty much over since then.
Cunego is another example, but aru can only dream of Cunego's palmares for the moment.
Mohoric left the team and has magically stepped up.
I think that aru will struggle to reach a high level in the future, he lacks humility, at the Giro he collapsed mentally when he realized he couldn't compete for victory.
Already how he behaved at astana was unpleasant, like a little dictator, even Nibali had to attack him at a certain point. Now they're saying that if he's not captain for Innsbruck he won't ride, what a joke.
Mayomaniac said:Yes, it's really stupid and totally delusional.EroicaStradeBianche said:
Let's hope that he doesn't end like the last big Italian gc prospect that left Martinelli and signed with Saronni:
Well, saronni's team is the good one to earn a lot of money to decline. Pozzato was fighting with Boonen in 2012, he signed a big contract with lampre for 2013 and his career has been pretty much over since then.
Cunego is another example, but aru can only dream of Cunego's palmares for the moment.
Mohoric left the team and has magically stepped up.
I think that aru will struggle to reach a high level in the future, he lacks humility, at the Giro he collapsed mentally when he realized he couldn't compete for victory.
Already how he behaved at astana was unpleasant, like a little dictator, even Nibali had to attack him at a certain point. Now they're saying that if he's not captain for Innsbruck he won't ride, what a joke.
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Cunego never left Martinelli for Saronni, Saeco & Lampre merged into Lampre - Caffita when the pro tour was introduced. Cunego, Simoni, Glomser & Petrov all stayed from Saeco, while Ludwig had to look out for a new team.
It was was when Martinelli left Lampre after the 2007 season though, that Cunego's career took a tumble!
It was was when Martinelli left Lampre after the 2007 season though, that Cunego's career took a tumble!
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Still, the team looks like a mess, they did better durning the last few years when they had a smaller budget and always managed to get some gt stage wins and 2 top 10 results in the Tour with Meintjes.
This year the blew the additional money on a few big stars and the team has been a complete mess.
Who was the last young rider who was actually developed by them and was already good when he left them, Ballan?
I hope all the young talents get out of this potential trainwreck of a team, guys like Ravasi, Troia and Ganna will be out of contract after the 2018 season.
Am I the only one who thinks that it's hillarious that the team started sucking after they managed to reunite the infamous Saunier-Duval duo Matxin and Gianetti?
Yeah, I made a mistake.staubsauger said:
Still, the team looks like a mess, they did better durning the last few years when they had a smaller budget and always managed to get some gt stage wins and 2 top 10 results in the Tour with Meintjes.
This year the blew the additional money on a few big stars and the team has been a complete mess.
Who was the last young rider who was actually developed by them and was already good when he left them, Ballan?
I hope all the young talents get out of this potential trainwreck of a team, guys like Ravasi, Troia and Ganna will be out of contract after the 2018 season.
Am I the only one who thinks that it's hillarious that the team started sucking after they managed to reunite the infamous Saunier-Duval duo Matxin and Gianetti?
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I still think Aru is one of the most talented climbers of his generation who can win multiple gt's if he is in the right environment but I fear he decided to leave the right environment. His 2016 and 2017 campaigns weren't great either I know, but 2016 looks worse than it actually was because he collapsed on the final mountain stage of the tour while 2017 was f*cked up by a badly timed injury. Still he became NC and the climbing he showed in the first two weeks of the tour was superb, definitely good enough to get a podium, maybe even the win, but as the injury messed up the preparation he peaked too early and ended his tour worse than he should have. This is the first season where I fail to see any positive signs for him and reading his plans and expectations I doubt that will change. That said maybe I'm just pissed because he thinks the Österreichrundfahrt isn't prestigious enough 
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At the Vuelta Contador was absent, Froome crashed, Nibali was sent home, Quintana the subpar version we have known often in the last years, if not for his team that literally escorted him to the finish and Purito not having the balls to follow Majka and Quintana in Cercedilla he wouldn't have won any GT.
Like I said in some days he could beat anyone but are once in a while days, his base level it's low second tier and he's prone to crack and lose time in almost every GT in at least one stage.
In 2015 the competition at the Giro was very poor behind Contador and Landa (that lost the Giro due to Aru), Amador, a rider that I like but not a top climber, was 4th and Trofimov sitted in fifth place until the beginning of last mountain stage where he cracked.Guillaume33 said:
At the Vuelta Contador was absent, Froome crashed, Nibali was sent home, Quintana the subpar version we have known often in the last years, if not for his team that literally escorted him to the finish and Purito not having the balls to follow Majka and Quintana in Cercedilla he wouldn't have won any GT.
Like I said in some days he could beat anyone but are once in a while days, his base level it's low second tier and he's prone to crack and lose time in almost every GT in at least one stage.
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What broke him was the 2nd place at the WC when Ballan attacked, but even in 2009 and 2010 he was still decent in the Ardennes.
Before 2013 his decline wasn't actually that bad, for some time he was better in one day races, then he was better stage racer.
Sure, he never reached that 2004 dominance ever again, but he still had a great career.
In 2008 he won Amstel, Lombardia, Japan Cup, Klasika Primavera (beat Valverde) and Podiums in Pais Vasco and FW.staubsauger said:
What broke him was the 2nd place at the WC when Ballan attacked, but even in 2009 and 2010 he was still decent in the Ardennes.
Before 2013 his decline wasn't actually that bad, for some time he was better in one day races, then he was better stage racer.
Sure, he never reached that 2004 dominance ever again, but he still had a great career.
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Aru is at the crossroads. Like Porte he badly needs a result in a GT. Uran showed last year that it is possible even though it wasn't exactly exciting to watch.......
staubsauger said:
Aru is at the crossroads. Like Porte he badly needs a result in a GT. Uran showed last year that it is possible even though it wasn't exactly exciting to watch.......
Of all the big GC riders, I think he is the hardest one to evaluate. I don’t think anyone, including him, is sure of his level.
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Its still his first year and only his second GT with them, so lets calm down. However, he won't ever experience such great situations he was in particular in 2015 when everything just went his way. Relatively weak competetion, amazing teams and obviously also some good legs. Lets hope he can at least regain some of his former level.Robert5091 said:
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