Fancy Bears hack ADAMS system

[Amnes2015]

i want to see some more cyclists for comparison purposes.

Quintana and Contador didn't do olympics but maybe Nibali, Uran/Henao, G.Thomas ?

 

[thehog]

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Mo, Mo, Mo, Mo, Mo!

They've released Mo's: http://fancybear.net/pages/4.html

 

[LaFlorecita]

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i want to see some more cyclists for comparison purposes.

Quintana and Contador didn't do olympics but maybe Nibali, Uran/Henao, G.Thomas ?

Send the hackers an email

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

And Nadal!

 

[thehog]

On first look, Mo looks fairly normal. He was in hospital for 3 of the drugs and another when he wasn't that good back in 08. Poor ole Wiggo is going to get hit harder and harder now..

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

Mo Farah, 2008

Triamcinolone is a long-acting synthetic corticosteroid given orally, by injection, by inhalation, or as a topical ointment or cream.

I have no idea what this does.

July 2014 is for opiates, presumably for pain. Maybe he had an accident. Don't think it's used to enhance performance.

 

[Rollthedice]

On first look, Mo looks fairly normal. He was in hospital for 3 of the drugs and another when he wasn't that good back in 08. Poor ole Wiggo is going to get hit harder and harder now..

Mo is innocent, tried with Wiggo's favorite triamcinolone, nothing happened then Salazar/Ferrari got him on the real stuff.

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/sep/19/mo-farah-named-fancy-bears-leak

Farah said in 2015, during the uproar surrounding his coach, Alberto Salazar, in the wake of allegations in a BBC Panorama documentary over his methods, that he had only ever had one TUE.

So, Farah also lied. That one is for sure too.

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

original quote:

"Yes I've had one TUE and that was in Park City, I collapsed on the floor, was taken in an ambulance and put on a drip. That was the only one," the 33-year-old said last year ahead of a Birmingham Diamond League meeting from which he ultimately withdrew.

http://www.straitstimes.com/sport/mo-farah-has-little-fear-over-leaked-data

 

[thehog]

On first look, Mo looks fairly normal. He was in hospital for 3 of the drugs and another when he wasn't that good back in 08. Poor ole Wiggo is going to get hit harder and harder now..

Mo is innocent, tried with Wiggo's favorite triamcinolone, nothing happened then Salazar/Ferrari got him on the real stuff.

Wiggo on the old school Sutton program, Froome and Mo amp it on the Monoco top tier undectables.

 

[ontheroad]

Farah at the very best comes out of this looking like a compulsive liar given his previous statements. Moral of the story? Don't write books. And I think that these TUE's are only the tip of the iceberg with dirty Mo.

 

[bigcog]

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Farah at the very best comes out of this looking like a compulsive liar given his previous statements. Moral of the story? Don't write books. And I think that these TUE's are only the tip of the iceberg with dirty Mo.

He probably wasn't fully with it if he had morphine and vicoden :lol:

 

[MatParker117]

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Farah at the very best comes out of this looking like a compulsive liar given his previous statements. Moral of the story? Don't write books. And I think that these TUE's are only the tip of the iceberg with dirty Mo.

He disclosed those in an interview last year.

 

[sniper]

and lied about it in another.
weird guy.

 

[treb18]

The most interesting bit of this release is the hockey players.

Alex Danson 22/01/08 Salbutamol
Christa Cullen 22/01/08 Salbutamol
Samantha Quek 01/02/08 Salbutamol

Quite the coincidence that 3 England hockey players are prescribed exactly the same drug within 10 days of each other.

 

[BullsFan22]

To me, it seems that Seppelt has an agenda.

https://twitter.com/hajoseppelt/status/776476222238916608

 

[DirtyWorks]

To me, it seems that Seppelt has an agenda.

https://twitter.com/hajoseppelt/status/776476222238916608

Because TUEs, while very useful, aren't the stuff of Mo Farah's extraordinary gains, Froome's Riis-like rise to the top-5 in grand tours,. What he's uncovered in the past was much, much bigger. Russia had RUSADA officials changing test scores to never test athletes positive. What's a few hundred TUEs between friends?

The interesting thing seems to be the TUEs are playing like "Those athletes ARE taking drugs and drugs are BAD" with more casual sports fans. Which, is barely true and misses the point. I'll take it though.

I'm hoping they can keep the "slow drip" going. Sky needs to freeze out Wiggo some more.

 

[jens_attacks]

99% people of antidoping have an agenda of their own. Very hard to define good and bad guys in this business.

Seppelt was obvious, so disgusting. Russia is bad mmkay

 

[BullsFan22]

To me, it seems that Seppelt has an agenda.

https://twitter.com/hajoseppelt/status/776476222238916608

Because TUEs, while very useful, aren't the stuff of Mo Farah's extraordinary gains, Froome's Riis-like rise to the top-5 in grand tours,. What he's uncovered in the past was much, much bigger. Russia had RUSADA officials changing test scores to never test athletes positive. What's a few hundred TUEs between friends?

The interesting thing seems to be the TUEs are playing like "Those athletes ARE taking drugs and drugs are BAD" with more casual sports fans. Which, is barely true and misses the point. I'll take it though.

I'm hoping they can keep the "slow drip" going. Sky needs to freeze out Wiggo some more.

I am going to disagree on that. First and foremost, I believe the whole issue of Russia, Sochi and Rio is politically motivated. To me, that's a no-brainer. If, and in my opinion it's a big if, the Russians did in fact cover up positives and made some mouse holes in the wall to switch dirty samples with clean ones, then we would need more than a guy that's held a US address since 2011, two disgruntled old Canadian lawyer buddies, a newspaper which has a history of lying and manipulating its audience (see Iraq war 2003-) to look into this. I am not convinced it was an 'independent' investigation. The goal was political to begin with. It was to undermine the Russians. It didn't work as well politically and economically in the Ukraine Crisis, so why not try to do it through sports? The goal was to keep the Russians out of the Olympics, the entire delegation, not just track and field, but also to keep them out of all internationally sanctioned sporting events, including the upcoming Korea winter olympics. AND, potentially take away Russia as hosts of the 2018 Football World Cup. I think that's a big one there, if they can accomplish it. Why do you think all those FIFA raids happened? It's not solely because American firms were involved, and the FBI wanted to bust them. Why do you think Seppelt has been lambasting Thomas Bach? He didn't take a 'hard stance' against the Russians. Seppelt complains that 'fancy bears' hackers aren't reporting on any Russian TUE's. Well, that is his job, isn't it? He is like an extreme version of Walsh. Hardly questioning German athletes/sports. Where was he when news broke that West Germany was involved in systematic doping? Where was Seppelt when news broke of organized team doping in the Bundesliga? Did he raise eyebrows when Beckenbauer said that the Germans took pills before their games? All he does is report on Russia, with the occasional mention(s) of Kenya and some random failed drug tests. And Stepanova, what about her? She was rewarded 30000 dollars by WADA! LMFAO. WADA always complain how they don't have the money or resources and are sometimes behind the doping mechanism when it comes to technology, well, giving out tens of thousands of dollars to dopers isn't going to help your bank account. And who has given the most money to WADA in the past years? US and Canada. No, I don't think this is a case of these countries wanting more research in the fight against doping. On the contrary, these are 'gifts.' The same type of 'gifts' that Armstrong was 'giving' to the UCI. Remember when Phil and Paul were commentating on OLN/Versus about how strongly anti-doping Armstrong was? So much so that he 'gave' money for more testing! LOL.

To finish off, the US was caught covering up failed doping tests from hundreds of athletes not too long ago. Did anybody call for their omission from the Olympics or World Championships? No. The same athletes that had their tests wiped clean went on to win medals. Banning an entire delegation from the Olympics is purely political. It has nothing do with doping or potential to dope.

 

[sniper]

I see your concerns, but it's a way too premature to write Seppelt off.

Seppelt was at the basis of the Contador leak, and many other big doping stories. Including the stories recently that pulled down Seb Coe's pants and put Paula Radcliffe in a rather awkward daylight.

We don't know how the Stepanov's got to Seppelt, but fact is they came to him, and so what was he going to do?

Correct me if wrong, but if you think Seppelt did all this with an agenda, you're implying that the Stepanov's were part of that agenda.
I don't see any evidence for that, however. They are still struggling to come by and to keep themselves safe.
If they were part of some complot, I'd assume they'd at least be taken care of financially.

The Russia story is huge, and it's founded on bullet proof evidence, and so it's the kind of stuff that any investigative journalist dreams of.
I'm not surprised to see Seppelt going through with this.

Meanwhile I personally don't doubt we'll see his name and his team presenting new doping revelations in the (near) future, revelations that are not connected to Russia.

 

[veji11]

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99% people of antidoping have an agenda of their own. Very hard to define good and bad guys in this business.

Seppelt was obvious, so disgusting. Russia is bad mmkay

Come on, this is a bit easy. What you had in russian doping institution was the very continuation of soviet and east bloc practices where massive doping in most sports is state policy and state controlled leaving athletes hardly any option. It's the stuff of dictatorships... I am sure there is massive doping in western countries, but let's not equate the two. mmmkay ?

 

[keeponrollin]

I'm hoping they can keep the "slow drip" going. Sky needs to freeze out Wiggo some more.

Yep. The key to bringing down any conspiracy is to find the weak link, & put them in a position, where they have to choose between consequences & cooperation with the authorities; think Chuck Blazer !

 

[sniper]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/sep/20/sam-quek-fancy-bears-wada-hacking-scandal-hockey-gold-team-gb
How can I be doping when I'm so cute?

 

[rata de sentina]

Fancy about to release Part 4...

Gotta love the clinic. By all means feast on what's on offer but don't imagine for a second there's anything altruistic involved.
Your latest GRU fanboy guise is pretty funny.

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

Fancy about to release Part 4...

Gotta love the clinic. By all means feast on what's on offer but don't imagine for a second there's anything altruistic involved.
Your latest GRU fanboy guise is pretty funny.

Nobody cares about motivations. What's relevant here is that the information is leaking, and the world has to deal with it: It can't pretent anymore the TUE system isn't abused by the top athletes to dope legally, under the guise of privacy, and pointless conversations about motivations won't change that.