Fancy Bears hack ADAMS system

[sniper]

Well said.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Fancy about to release Part 4...

Gotta love the clinic. By all means feast on what's on offer but don't imagine for a second there's anything altruistic involved.
Your latest GRU fanboy guise is pretty funny.

Nobody cares about motivations. What's relevant here is that the information is leaking, and the world has to deal with it: It can't pretent anymore the TUE system isn't abused by the top athletes to dope legally, under the guise of privacy, and pointless conversations about motivations won't change that.

the tue's have been abused by 1 rider: wiggins. if one thing this whole affair is telling us it's that it's going very well in cycling at least

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

Fancy about to release Part 4...

Gotta love the clinic. By all means feast on what's on offer but don't imagine for a second there's anything altruistic involved.
Your latest GRU fanboy guise is pretty funny.

Nobody cares about motivations. What's relevant here is that the information is leaking, and the world has to deal with it: It can't pretent anymore the TUE system isn't abused by the top athletes to dope legally, under the guise of privacy, and pointless conversations about motivations won't change that.

the tue's have been abused by 1 rider: wiggins. if one thing this whole affair is telling us it's that it's going very well in cycling at least

One rider who happens to be the Non-Cheating White Knight who ushered in the New Era of Cleanliness just a few years ago.

 

[bikenrrd]

Is there a full list of which TUEs have been released yet?
So far, all that I have seen reported are GB athletes, US athletes and Rafa Nadal. That might just be the parochial media reporting in the UK.
Until Fancy Bears release TUEs from other nations (or even just more riders) we don't really know how widespread the TUEs abuse is. So far, there has been one (apparent) TUE abuse and Froome and Farah actually come out of it looking good.

(I don't fancy going to the Fancy Bears website on my work computer!)

 

[Tienus]

I haven't come across a full list but they have released data from athletes from many different countries.

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

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Is there a full list of which TUEs have been released yet?

You can go to the source itself. It's there.

(I don't fancy going to the Fancy Bears website on my work computer!)

Don't be paranoid. They are not going to eat you or your company. "Bear" is actually a metaphor and you have the internet in between.

http://fancybear.net/

 

[rata de sentina]

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Don't be paranoid. They are not going to eat you or your company. "Bear" is actually a metaphor and you have the internet in between.

Sure. It's all in the name right. Just a fun bunch of great people righting the worlds wrongs.
On the other hand if they were vladimirshatchettmen.net then that would be a different story.

 

[bikenrrd]

To me it actually sounds like a nice friendly gay club that I'd have no fears about having a drink in.

The website could still be a good way to inject malware into people's computers, though. I don't think that's the motivation, but I don't want to risk it. I'll have a look on my home computer later.

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

Re: Re:

Is there a full list of which TUEs have been released yet?

You can go to the source itself. It's there.

(I don't fancy going to the Fancy Bears website on my work computer!)

Don't be paranoid. They are not going to eat you or your company. "Bear" is actually a metaphor and you have the internet in between.

http://fancybear.net/

and you're saying that to clinic-patients?

Yes, whover shows signs of paranoia, that's my standard response. Like being afraid of using the internet.

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

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The website could still be a good way to inject malware into people's computers, though.

Sure, if you are info-excluded, there's always a risk you'll click Ok to a message:

Here, run this exe file and you will win a million dollars

You did say you worked with a computer and had access to the internet, though.

 

[TomLPC]

I have to say, regardless of any sort of ethics, I do enjoy the minimalist layout to the fancybears website, nostalgic, oldschool

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

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Don't be paranoid. They are not going to eat you or your company. "Bear" is actually a metaphor and you have the internet in between.

Sure. It's all in the name right. Just a fun bunch of great people righting the worlds wrongs.
On the other hand if they were vladimirshatchettmen.net then that would be a different story.

No, it's not in the name, you got it wrong again. The issue is just about common sense.

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

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I have to say, regardless of any sort of ethics, I do enjoy the minimalist layout to the fancybears website, nostalgic, oldschool

I noticed that too, very retro. Nice.
I liked the simbology too, it's not just the brown bears/russia connection. They have a panda too: certainly a wink to the chinese, who they probably view as another nation whose interests have been hurt by the hipocrisy in the West.

 

[Franklin]

the tue's have been abused by 1 rider: wiggins. if one thing this whole affair is telling us it's that it's going very well in cycling at least

No, it certainly doesn't.

- The clean champion of cycling has been shown to abuse TUe's.
- The manager of the strongest squad is consistently lieing about anything doping related.
- This squad is even more so than USP being touted by the powers that be as the example all should aspire to follow, whilst knowing about the lies.

You know what this means for cycling,. so why are you saying something that's you clearly can not believe yourself?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

the tue's have been abused by 1 rider: wiggins. if one thing this whole affair is telling us it's that it's going very well in cycling at least

No, it certainly doesn't.

- The clean champion of cycling has been shown to abuse TUe's.
- The manager of the strongest squad is consistently lieing about anything doping related.
- This squad is even more so than USP being touted by the powers that be as the example all should aspire to follow, whilst knowing about the lies.

You know what this means for cycling,. so why are you saying something that's you clearly can not believe yourself?

my god, you are reading way too much into this. this clearly isn't systematic doping by sky. by us epostal many riders got caught after leaving, the top riders. not with sky who are now in the peloton for 7 years. if one thing it shows sky's true champion froome has been very transparent and honest about his past. let's not forget wiggins was a winner 4 years ago, he's long gone from road cycling and the latest tue is from over 3 years ago, so who's saying this system can still be abused? who's saying measures haven't been taken? who tells me uci told wiggins no more injections, to which wiggins turned into a roubaix/track rider?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

the tue's have been abused by 1 rider: wiggins. if one thing this whole affair is telling us it's that it's going very well in cycling at least

No, it certainly doesn't.

- The clean champion of cycling has been shown to abuse TUe's.
- The manager of the strongest squad is consistently lieing about anything doping related.
- This squad is even more so than USP being touted by the powers that be as the example all should aspire to follow, whilst knowing about the lies.

You know what this means for cycling,. so why are you saying something that's you clearly can not believe yourself?

my god, you are reading way too much into this. this clearly isn't systematic doping by sky. by us epostal many riders got caught after leaving, the top riders. not with sky who are now in the peloton for 7 years. if one thing it shows sky's true champion froome has been very transparent and honest about his past. let's not forget wiggins was a winner 4 years ago, he's long gone from road cycling and the latest tue is from over 3 years ago, so who's saying this system can still be abused? who's saying measures haven't been taken? who tells me uci told wiggins no more injections, to which wiggins turned into a roubaix/track rider?

Sorry but I would have to say - abuse of the TUE system is systematic doping by team sky.

These days even the dawgs symptoms have cleared up. :lol:

 

[Cake]

Re: Re:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/sep/20/sam-quek-fancy-bears-wada-hacking-scandal-hockey-gold-team-gb
How can I be doping when I'm so cute?

During her fifteen minutes of fame, it is understandable for her to be "quite concerned" about her already-fading marketability.

It's hard to feel sorry for a woman who prostitutes herself in this manner:
http://www.gettyimages.com/photos/sam-quek

I doubt Sam Quek's marketability is "fading", companies will be falling over themselves to sign her up. As for the modelling photos, how on earth is that "prostituting herself"? She's attractive and in the public eye, why shouldn't she do photo shoots just like good looking male athletes do?

 

[Franklin]

he's long gone from road cycling and the latest tue is from over 3 years ago,

Oh really? besides pointing you toward the frontpage, last year he still did road racing.

Also, how come he had a Tue three years ago and not since? He rode the World Record in June, which makes one wonder why he needed a TUE in France in a similar timeframe.

Then again, you realize this as well as we all do. This is not me reading too much, this is a solid dressdown of your position. Then again, you don't believe this fairy tale yourself, so it's all rather pointless.

 

[Benotti69]

the tue's have been abused by 1 rider: wiggins. if one thing this whole affair is telling us it's that it's going very well in cycling at least

No, it certainly doesn't.

- The clean champion of cycling has been shown to abuse TUe's.
- The manager of the strongest squad is consistently lieing about anything doping related.
- This squad is even more so than USP being touted by the powers that be as the example all should aspire to follow, whilst knowing about the lies.

You know what this means for cycling,. so why are you saying something that's you clearly can not believe yourself?

my god, you are reading way too much into this. this clearly isn't systematic doping by sky. by us epostal many riders got caught after leaving, the top riders. not with sky who are now in the peloton for 7 years. if one thing it shows sky's true champion froome has been very transparent and honest about his past. let's not forget wiggins was a winner 4 years ago, he's long gone from road cycling and the latest tue is from over 3 years ago, so who's saying this system can still be abused? who's saying measures haven't been taken? who tells me uci told wiggins no more injections, to which wiggins turned into a roubaix/track rider?

Wiggins who just finished the Tour of Britain 4-11 Sept and is riding the Tour of Abu Dhabi in October, long gone you say, my god!

Your anger at not being invited to Colombia by Nairo is strong.

 

[rata de sentina]

Re: Re:

I noticed that too, very retro. Nice.
I liked the simbology too, it's not just the brown bears/russia connection. They have a panda too: certainly a wink to the chinese, who they probably view as another nation whose interests have been hurt by the hipocrisy in the West.

I am sure it is all sweetness and light between them. The Bear and the Panda cuddling. The GRU and the PLA lovefest. That's just "commonsense".

 

[AlbineVespuzzio]

Re: Re:

I noticed that too, very retro. Nice.
I liked the simbology too, it's not just the brown bears/russia connection. They have a panda too: certainly a wink to the chinese, who they probably view as another nation whose interests have been hurt by the hipocrisy in the West.

I am sure it is all sweetness and light between them. The Bear and the Panda cuddling. The GRU and the PLA lovefest. That's just "commonsense".

Not really, it's just the proper way of reaming someone (the west). *** them in the ass and at the same time put cuddly pictures.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

the tue's have been abused by 1 rider: wiggins. if one thing this whole affair is telling us it's that it's going very well in cycling at least

No, it certainly doesn't.

- The clean champion of cycling has been shown to abuse TUe's.
- The manager of the strongest squad is consistently lieing about anything doping related.
- This squad is even more so than USP being touted by the powers that be as the example all should aspire to follow, whilst knowing about the lies.

You know what this means for cycling,. so why are you saying something that's you clearly can not believe yourself?

my god, you are reading way too much into this. this clearly isn't systematic doping by sky. by us epostal many riders got caught after leaving, the top riders. not with sky who are now in the peloton for 7 years. if one thing it shows sky's true champion froome has been very transparent and honest about his past. let's not forget wiggins was a winner 4 years ago, he's long gone from road cycling and the latest tue is from over 3 years ago, so who's saying this system can still be abused? who's saying measures haven't been taken? who tells me uci told wiggins no more injections, to which wiggins turned into a roubaix/track rider?

Wiggins who just finished the Tour of Britain 4-11 Sept and is riding the Tour of Abu Dhabi in October, long gone you say, my god!

Your anger at not being invited to Colombia by Nairo is strong.

even by your ridiculously low standards your comment is laughable. wiggins finished like last in brittain and has finished on top of that only 4 road races this year all placed lower than 100.

 

[Benotti69]

the tue's have been abused by 1 rider: wiggins. if one thing this whole affair is telling us it's that it's going very well in cycling at least

No, it certainly doesn't.

- The clean champion of cycling has been shown to abuse TUe's.
- The manager of the strongest squad is consistently lieing about anything doping related.
- This squad is even more so than USP being touted by the powers that be as the example all should aspire to follow, whilst knowing about the lies.

You know what this means for cycling,. so why are you saying something that's you clearly can not believe yourself?

my god, you are reading way too much into this. this clearly isn't systematic doping by sky. by us epostal many riders got caught after leaving, the top riders. not with sky who are now in the peloton for 7 years. if one thing it shows sky's true champion froome has been very transparent and honest about his past. let's not forget wiggins was a winner 4 years ago, he's long gone from road cycling and the latest tue is from over 3 years ago, so who's saying this system can still be abused? who's saying measures haven't been taken? who tells me uci told wiggins no more injections, to which wiggins turned into a roubaix/track rider?

Wiggins who just finished the Tour of Britain 4-11 Sept and is riding the Tour of Abu Dhabi in October, long gone you say, my god!

Your anger at not being invited to Colombia by Nairo is strong.

even by your ridiculously low standards your comment is laughable. wiggins finished like last in brittain and has finished on top of that only 4 road races this year all placed lower than 100.

So Ryo, you stated Wiggins long gone from road racing and when pointed out he raced ToB and will race Abu Dhabi you attack the poster.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

yes indeed he is long gone from COMPETETIVE roadracing. it's like saying adri van der poel was still a roadracer in 1999 :L

 

[Benotti69]

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yes indeed he is long gone from COMPETETIVE roadracing. it's like saying adri van der poel was still a roadracer in 1999 :L

He is only a TUE away........