Fancy Bears hack ADAMS system

[thehog]

Re:

this dreep feed targeted release is started to backfire on the hack team because they seem to be cherry picking what to show and can't make comparisons with other athletes data

would be better to dump everything like wikileaks despite the lower impact , would be more credible

Do you really think the Fancy Bears care? Unpredictability is the aim, better to get denials from athletes before they release more.

Wiggins is the classic example, spent years pretending there were no needles, never had a TUE, even Walsh was in on the heist. For all to be proven otherwise hat the Sky myth is just that a myth. They are just USPS all over again just with a bigger marketing budget.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Re: Re:

this dreep feed targeted release is started to backfire on the hack team because they seem to be cherry picking what to show and can't make comparisons with other athletes data

would be better to dump everything like wikileaks despite the lower impact , would be more credible

Do you really think the Fancy Bears care? Unpredictability is the aim, better to get denials from athletes before they release more.

Wiggins is the classic example, spent years pretending there were no needles, never had a TUE, even Walsh was in on the heist. For all to be proven otherwise hat the Sky myth is just that a myth. They are just USPS all over again just with a bigger marketing budget.

then explain froome's lack of tues

you're grasping at straws here, trying to keep up your ludicrous conspiracies

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

this dreep feed targeted release is started to backfire on the hack team because they seem to be cherry picking what to show and can't make comparisons with other athletes data

would be better to dump everything like wikileaks despite the lower impact , would be more credible

Do you really think the Fancy Bears care? Unpredictability is the aim, better to get denials from athletes before they release more.

Wiggins is the classic example, spent years pretending there were no needles, never had a TUE, even Walsh was in on the heist. For all to be proven otherwise hat the Sky myth is just that a myth. They are just USPS all over again just with a bigger marketing budget.

then explain froome's lack of tues

you're grasping at straws here, trying to keep up your ludicrous conspiracies

Let's concentrate on Wiggins for the moment before you start deflecting elsewhere, he has been caught in a lie. Which goes to show that if you're telling one lie you're mostly likely telling more covering up a much bigger issue of doping.

It's not surprising considering his transformation as a rider.

The other issue is is clear Sky are in on it as they applied for the TUE.

 

[buckle]

Re: Re:

this dreep feed targeted release is started to backfire on the hack team because they seem to be cherry picking what to show and can't make comparisons with other athletes data

would be better to dump everything like wikileaks despite the lower impact , would be more credible

Do you really think the Fancy Bears care? Unpredictability is the aim, better to get denials from athletes before they release more.

Wiggins is the classic example, spent years pretending there were no needles, never had a TUE, even Walsh was in on the heist. For all to be proven otherwise hat the Sky myth is just that a myth. They are just USPS all over again just with a bigger marketing budget.

then explain froome's lack of tues

you're grasping at straws here, trying to keep up your ludicrous conspiracies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

this dreep feed targeted release is started to backfire on the hack team because they seem to be cherry picking what to show and can't make comparisons with other athletes data

would be better to dump everything like wikileaks despite the lower impact , would be more credible

Do you really think the Fancy Bears care? Unpredictability is the aim, better to get denials from athletes before they release more.

Wiggins is the classic example, spent years pretending there were no needles, never had a TUE, even Walsh was in on the heist. For all to be proven otherwise hat the Sky myth is just that a myth. They are just USPS all over again just with a bigger marketing budget.

Agreed.

But I'm running out of popcorn. Time for FBs to release the next batch.

 

[thehog]

Fancy is about to drop another load....

 

[Rollthedice]

So while the Russians were doing it the straight no nonsense approach, destroy the evidence, hide the samples, get some fresh baby piss in the bottle, the western world is doing it perfectly legal under the ADAMS system. It is of outmost importance to not take the amphetamines, cortisones, steroids, triamcinolones until a doctor prescribes them and you register for a TUE!

 

[thehog]

Fancy is about to drop another load....

Part 3 is up:

http://fancybear.net/pages/3.html

 

[TomLPC]

http://fancybear.net/pages/3.html

There it is, nicole adams, laura trott and it looks like jack bobridge is trying to start up a pharmaceuticals business or something

 

[Amnes2015]

a new cyclist, Bobridge , 6 TUE's
http://fancybear.net/pages/3.html

Laura Trott, 1TUE

overall part3 is weak , almost nothing

 

[More Strides than Rides]

I haven't chimed in on this forum with an overall opinion, several posters have gone unnoticed while saying the important things: this release doesn't matter.

Anti-doping skeptics will use this as evidence that athletes are gaming the system to take drugs. Doping apologists will say that it is all legal, transparent, and not nefarious. Both are using these TUEs to imply a bigger peice: clean athletes are clean because they do everything legally and scrupulously to follow rules, or dirty athletes are dirty because even the "clean" ones are taking drugs. Neither can make any reasonable claims about the cleanliness of one athlete or another; this information has no bearing on illegal drugs not detected by tests, or illegal methods not detected by data collection. This information has no bearing on the illegal drugs offered to an athlete because the athlete has integrity. While it does offer insight into individuals, without more context of whether that athlete actually needs the therapeutic use, readers will simply use their own lens to conclude that the leak confirms their perspective.

There is nothing released that changes our understanding of the sport.

This release is doing nothing but hardening people's opinions of things on which there cannot be opinions (only facts).

 

[TomLPC]

Rheumatoid arthritis? My mum has that and it's a chore to get out of bed in the morning

 

[MatParker117]

Re:

http://fancybear.net/pages/3.html

There it is, nicole adams, laura trott and it looks like jack bobridge is trying to start up a pharmaceuticals business or something

Trott's asthma and Bobridges arthritis aren't exactly state secrets.

 

[Irondan]

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a new cyclist, Bobridge , 6 TUE's
http://fancybear.net/pages/3.html

Laura Trott, 1TUE

overall part3 is weak , almost nothing

Rheumatoid arthritis? Bobridge should be competing in the disabled olympic competitions...

 

[MatParker117]

Re: Re:

a new cyclist, Bobridge , 6 TUE's
http://fancybear.net/pages/3.html

Laura Trott, 1TUE

overall part3 is weak , almost nothing

Rheumatoid arthritis? Bobridge should be competing in the disabled olympic competitions...

It's manageable with over the counter painkillers and injections such as the one listed on the TUE.

 

[TomLPC]

Re:

I haven't chimed in on this forum with an overall opinion, several posters have gone unnoticed while saying the important things: this release doesn't matter.

Anti-doping skeptics will use this as evidence that athletes are gaming the system to take drugs. Doping apologists will say that it is all legal, transparent, and not nefarious. Both are using these TUEs to imply a bigger peice: clean athletes are clean because they do everything legally and scrupulously to follow rules, or dirty athletes are dirty because even the "clean" ones are taking drugs. Neither can make any reasonable claims about the cleanliness of one athlete or another; this information has no bearing on illegal drugs not detected by tests, or illegal methods not detected by data collection. This information has no bearing on the illegal drugs offered to an athlete because the athlete has integrity.

There is nothing released that changes our understanding of the sport.

This release is doing nothing but hardening people's opinions of things on which there cannot be opinions (only facts).

I agree in part, but the one interesting aspect was Wiggins' use of needles, contrary to his previous claims. While this isn't evidence of doping, it's another piece that can be (legitimately) used to formulate a narrative of deceit and conspiracy surrounding him and the sky team. All the pieces matter and that.

On the contrary however, I think Froome comes out of this looking pretty good.

 

[TomLPC]

Re: Re:

a new cyclist, Bobridge , 6 TUE's
http://fancybear.net/pages/3.html

Laura Trott, 1TUE

overall part3 is weak , almost nothing

Rheumatoid arthritis? Bobridge should be competing in the disabled olympic competitions...

It's manageable with over the counter painkillers and injections such as the one listed on the TUE.

Oh? Is any of this *** I found in the medical cabinet any good then? Might pop a few and go for a ride.

 

[thehog]

Thought this was funny... you'd think Walsh would be jumping in because Wiggins uses the same drugs as Lance

 

[carolina]

from 2013:

The dual Olympian, 23, was diagnosed with the chronic condition in 2010 and requires weekly Methotrexate medication - also used to treat cancer patients.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/cyclist-jack-bobridge-reveals-rheumatoid-arthritis-pain/story-fngr0c3d-1226549814678

 

[Benotti69]

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Rheumatoid arthritis? My mum has that and it's a chore to get out of bed in the morning

She sounds like the perfect candidate for some meds and bingo top 10 of a GT.

 

[MatParker117]

Re: Re:

a new cyclist, Bobridge , 6 TUE's
http://fancybear.net/pages/3.html

Laura Trott, 1TUE

overall part3 is weak , almost nothing

Rheumatoid arthritis? Bobridge should be competing in the disabled olympic competitions...

It's manageable with over the counter painkillers and injections such as the one listed on the TUE.

Oh? Is any of this **** I found in the medical cabinet any good then? Might pop a few and go for a ride.

Ibuprofen, Aspirin and other over the counter drugs can be used to manage arthritic pain in the short term say when he's racing, I should of made that clearer.

 

[roundabout]

Re: Re:

Rheumatoid arthritis? My mum has that and it's a chore to get out of bed in the morning

She sounds like the perfect candidate for some meds and bingo top 10 of a GT.

Bobridge finished 1 GT in his career. He was last on GC

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Rheumatoid arthritis? My mum has that and it's a chore to get out of bed in the morning

She sounds like the perfect candidate for some meds and bingo top 10 of a GT.

Bobridge finished 1 GT in his career. He was last on GC

TomPLC must be pretty young if Bobridge is his Mum!

 

[TomLPC]

Re: Re:

Rheumatoid arthritis? My mum has that and it's a chore to get out of bed in the morning

She sounds like the perfect candidate for some meds and bingo top 10 of a GT.

Bobridge finished 1 GT in his career. He was last on GC

TomPLC must be pretty young if Bobridge is his Mum!

That crafty bastard, here was me thinking my bad wrists were from playing too much mario kart

 

[samhocking]

Bobridge spoke about his RA years ago. It's not exactly surprising he'd need a TUE.