Fancy Bears not hackers but Russian Intelligence

[Svetty]

Surprised? Not a bit!

 

[MartinGT]

Claim the Brits.

 

[gillan1969]

I think it was always assumed Fancy Bears are a Russian government-sponsored group, and their website was deliberately amateur in its coding, to make it look like some patriotic hacker group acting independently.

The big news is that Russian spooks had a unit operating on-site to steal information from WADA in Switzerland :

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45746837
The same GRU laptop computers used to target the Malaysia airliner and Salisbury novichok investigations also have data obtained from WADA in Lausanne Switzerland

Previously it was thought that logins were stolen remotely using phishing emails. Russians probably do have a lot more material on WADA than what was released by Fancy Bears.

they're back in aren't they

 

[brownbobby]

I think it was always assumed Fancy Bears are a Russian government-sponsored group, and their website was deliberately amateur in its coding, to make it look like some patriotic hacker group acting independently.

The big news is that Russian spooks had a unit operating on-site to steal information from WADA in Switzerland :

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45746837
The same GRU laptop computers used to target the Malaysia airliner and Salisbury novichok investigations also have data obtained from WADA in Lausanne Switzerland

Previously it was thought that logins were stolen remotely using phishing emails. Russians probably do have a lot more material on WADA than what was released by Fancy Bears.

they're back in aren't they

Maybe they didn't pick up the tab for the conference in the Seychelles after all

 

[CTQ]

Re:

Claim the Brits.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/us-authorities-indict-russians-who-leaked-wiggins-froome-tues/

 

[rick james]

Re: Re:

Claim the Brits.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/us-authorities-indict-russians-who-leaked-wiggins-froome-tues/

Fine, let’s call them Anglo Saxons

 

[del1962]

Re:

Claim the Brits.

Exposed by the Dutch intelligence

 

[BullsFan22]

Of course it was the Russians. The Russians also caused global warming. And also assassinated JFK. And it was Putin who told Pete Carroll to throw the ball instead of running it...

 

[DFA123]

Re: Re:

Claim the Brits.

Exposed by the Dutch intelligence

Sounds like an oxymoron

 

[python]

2quick points, may be 3...

1. why would anyone genuinely concerned with anti-doping object to to FB exposing the dopers hiding behind the various wada loopholes like a tue (AND WADA Lippe gezippt about it) ? several were exposed including a british darling cyclist, weren't they ?

2. can anyone key me to a factual basis for the latest brouhaha-ha EXCEPT the so and so said it is so ...i understand the ease of the accusations connected to a public mood in the west, but aren't we in the clinic supposed to be more rigorous ?

3. as often, russia has failed the anti-doping regime, but why would smart people not note that that by going after a single - likely complicit - nation all other potential dopers feel a relief, if not a joy, that THEY are off the radar....

as often in life, it's more complicated and the current 'news' isn't really the news but a political something.

 

[Cookster15]

Not surprised seemed obvious to me. But this goes way beyond cycling. Cyber meddling by the super powers is a big issue and I hope this news might help put the brakes on. China is probably worse than Russia. Not so untouchable after all.

 

[Sciatic]

Of course it was the Russians. The Russians also caused global warming. And also assassinated JFK. And it was Putin who told Pete Carroll to throw the ball instead of running it...

Ha! Ha-ha-ha—HA. Clearly Darrel Bevel was a Russian agent!

 

[Robert5091]

Opportune report of something from April - I suppose the US indictment meant it would all be public -
US story at https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us-charges-7-russian/2018/10/04/id/884815/

Why did the Dutch send the GRU guys back to Moscow?

 

[Robert5091]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45758316

Even though the men were travelling on diplomatic passports, they could still have been arrested because they were not accredited diplomats in the Netherlands.

So questions have been asked about the decision to send the suspects home immediately, rather than detain them. Hours after the cyber-plot revelations, US justice officials levelled charges against the four suspects as well as three others.

Asked on Dutch TV on Thursday night why the men had not been arrested, Maj-Gen Eichelsheim explained that it had been a counter-intelligence operation with the specific aim of gathering intelligence and keeping the Netherlands safe.

Political leaders agreed that the men had not been detained because it was an intelligence operation, rather than a criminal inquiry led by the police.

According to Dutch expert Willemijn Aerdts from Leiden university, the intelligence services have no powers of arrest or prosecution.

"If they had arrested them, they would have had to inform the police," she told the BBC.

 

[samhocking]

English Institute Of Sport just got hacked. Wonder is it's in connection to all this?