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Arnout said:
Once players fall theatrically, and its usually pretty easy to spot (hint: in this case both legs are in the same position even though he pretends to fall because of a tackle on only one leg...), no penalty should be given even though it might've been one. No other way to stop the single most irritating thing in football.

And you're right, I can't be happy with a win like this, feels like cheating.
Then again, are you ever happy when the Dutch win? ;)

It was a cheaply given penalty, but of course he should already have gotten one in the first half, so justice was done. And it was a deserved win, the Mexican coach made tactical error after tactical error when they were one goal up.
 
theyoungest said:
Then again, are you ever happy when the Dutch win? ;)

It was a cheaply given penalty, but of course he should already have gotten one in the first half, so justice was done. And it was a deserved win, the Mexican coach made tactical error after tactical error when they were one goal up.

I haven't jumped and cheered at a goal more in the last 5 years (before that I was more into football) than at the Van Persie header versus Spain, I embarrassed myself. Granted, part of that was due to the quality rather than the nationality, but I am not anti Netherlands although I judge them a bit more critically than the average country probably (though I think that's justified based on past results and player quality).

About earlier penalty. Could be, but that's none of Robbens business, he should play his own game. I can't even begin to express how uninterested I am in tit for tat reasoning like that.
 
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Flamin said:
Nope, there never was one..

Wow. I thought NL deserved the win, thus they must have been in the 16m box once in a while. ;)

BTW, clear hand-play (not shoulder or back or "protective hand" or something) by GRE... and no penalty kick is given. Poor refs. :rolleyes:

Edit: Oh my... poor CRC, now they get RC. Either the ref has no eyes (on the hand-play) and no tact (he knew a 2nd yellow would lead to 10 vs 11), or CRC is on the wrong end of a fix...
 
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Wow. I thought NL deserved the win, thus they must have been in the 16m box once in a while. ;)

BTW, clear hand-play (not shoulder or back or "protective hand" or something) by GRE... and no penalty kick is given. Poor refs. :rolleyes:

Edit: Oh my... poor CRC, now they get RC. Either the ref has no eyes (on the hand-play) and no tact (he knew a 2nd yellow would lead to 10 vs 11), or CRC is on the wrong end of a fix...

How does that matter? :)

Yeah, sh*tty decision from the ref. Incredible.
 
How is it an undeserved win? Mexico just stopped playing after the 1-0. It's their own tactical failing that cost them the win. A match is 90 minutes (+extra time) not 60

Holland had more chances, possession, dangerous attacks, everything in total..
And the penalty was a penalty.. just like the 1st half foul should have been a penalty.

The referees already gave 2 undeserved penalties against the Netherlands against Spain and Australia. It was bound to happen the other way around
 
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Kibbeling said:
your luck will even out during a tournament

Myth.

Besides fixes and whatever goes on behind curtains, there should be at least 1* underdog winning a WC in its long history.
But there isn´t. Why? Because "big" soccer countries get all the small advantages by the refs (less reds, less penalty kicks against compared to chances, less obvious fouls yellow carded, etc.). This small advantages add up step by step, inch by inch... and lead to the same old countries meeting in the finals.

* Let´s say there are at least 5 true underdogs in each WC reaching the knock-out/2nd round stage, with a approx. 30% win chance, this adds up to 0.3x0.3x0.3 = 2.7% chance for each underdog to reach the final. That´s 13.5% for all five countries. That´s a true underdog reaching at least the final every 9 to 10 world cups. Yet it never happend, but should have twice.
Ok, small sample size case. But still, we are overdue for a team like Mexico, USA, Costa Rica, Algeria or like that at least reaching the final.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Mexico just stopped playing after the 1-0. It's their own tactical failing that cost them the win.

Why? This tactic worked for decades. If it was wrong to protect a 1-0 lead, GRE and ITA had never prevailed in the past. :D
 
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The streak holds (OFC):
You can´t win on 90% vs 100% strength on world level soccer games.
The RC (and to some extend the not given hand) decided the game.
Thx again, refs... :mad:
... and thx again stupid rules.
 
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Lol this is not funny anymore,those late goals are rubbish,I HATE it

Edit: never going to your homeland again you greek ....,istead to costa rica,bit expensive but who cares
 
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Why? This tactic worked for decades. If it was wrong to protect a 1-0 lead, GRE and ITA had never prevailed in the past. :D

they allowed netherlands to play deep into their half. That's not exactly a smart thing to do. They were better off with early pressing, like in the first 50 minutes.
Sorry but you are blinded by your madness after the penalty. Mexico allowed it's own defeat by changing their strategy.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Sorry but you are blinded by your madness after the penalty. Mexico allowed it's own defeat by changing their strategy.

Madness is a little hard. But I would have liked NL to win on pure strength than on pure luck (the mildest word I can find for the given penalty ;)).

Now: Cheering for CRC. Complete 180 turn, b/c of the ref. Only problem; there is no hope for CRC now. Only miracles can help now.
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Dont overestimate the Dutch, we played 2-2 against Estonia. Anything is possible with this team :eek:

lol good old Dekker T signature defense mechanism:D

The Netherlands have had their bad moments, but right now, at the world cup they are performing phenomenally, have a very strong squad and are going to be playing the weakest team left in the competition.

Only bad news for them would be if its Greece and they go full defense mode like say Iran did against Argentina.
 
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The Hitch said:
When was the last time in the knockout stages (or a crucial group game) a team got a red card in a close game in the world cup or Euros (not counting if its like last 10 minutes though) and managed to go through?

The mad prof has the numbers... but I don´t know where.
AFIR, only one team ever won on 10 vs 11 (stats go only back to the 70s; no numbers available before that)...

What we know for certain; CRC needs a miracle like USA in 1980/Lake Placid.
 
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
The mad prof has the numbers... but I don´t know where.
AFIR, only one team ever won on 10 vs 11 (stats go only back to the 70s; no numbers available before that)...

What we know for certain; CRC needs a miracle like USA in 1980/Lake Placid.

Really, I thought you yourself said penalties are 50 50
 
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The Hitch said:
Really, I thought you yourself said penalties are 50 50

LOL. Of course from now (end of OT) it´s 50/50. Half of the miracle is completed. I wrote my post when Navas didn´t even made the last second save vs Samaras.