Teams & Riders Filippo Ganna Discussion Thread

[SafeBet]

It was 30 to 40min, as far as I can remember, he prefers shorter and longer ones.

Yeah you're right. The WC ITT should fall in that time range anyway.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I don't think he needs shorter pancake flat ITT's either. His performance at the WCC ITT compared to that of the ECC ITT doesn't suggest that at least. Also, looking at the final parts of the WCC ITT last year, looking at intermediate times, he lost less and less time on Evenepoel and Dennis further in the race. He only lost 7 seconds in the final 15km to Dennis. In the first 40 km he lost 1m47s to Dennis. Or 2.6 seconds per kilometer in the first 40k, and 0.5 seconds per kilometer in the final 15k.

Obiously, he could have picked a different schedule than Dennis and Evenepoel, but at least it doesn't seem to support we should automatically assume he gets weaker in longer ITT's.

 

[Red Rick]

I don't think he needs shorter pancake flat ITT's either. His performance at the WCC ITT compared to that of the ECC ITT doesn't suggest that at least. Also, looking at the final parts of the WCC ITT last year, looking at intermediate times, he lost less and less time on Evenepoel and Dennis further in the race. He only lost 7 seconds in the final 15km to Dennis. In the first 40 km he lost 1m47s to Dennis. Or 2.6 seconds per kilometer in the first 40k, and 0.5 seconds per kilometer in the final 15k.

Obiously, he could have picked a different schedule than Dennis and Evenepoel, but at least it doesn't seem to support we should automatically assume he gets weaker in longer ITT's.

Might not be linear, but find it hard to imagine he's better at 50km ITTs than efforts like today.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I don't think he needs shorter pancake flat ITT's either. His performance at the WCC ITT compared to that of the ECC ITT doesn't suggest that at least. Also, looking at the final parts of the WCC ITT last year, looking at intermediate times, he lost less and less time on Evenepoel and Dennis further in the race. He only lost 7 seconds in the final 15km to Dennis. In the first 40 km he lost 1m47s to Dennis. Or 2.6 seconds per kilometer in the first 40k, and 0.5 seconds per kilometer in the final 15k.

Obiously, he could have picked a different schedule than Dennis and Evenepoel, but at least it doesn't seem to support we should automatically assume he gets weaker in longer ITT's.

No, he said that mid length is the worst for him, really long ones like the last WC are better for him than 30 to 40min long TTs.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Might not be linear, but find it hard to imagine he's better at 50km ITTs than efforts like today.

Agreed, but short/10k ITT's are very specific.

No, he said that mid length is the worst for him, really long ones like the last WC are better for him than 30 to 40min long TTs.

Oh, that's peculiar. Interesting. I didn't know he had made that statement. It also seems like something he should be able to train, no? I mean, if you're good at 10k and 50k... one would assume you have all the needed attributes to be good at 20-30k as well?

 

[KZD]

Regardless of the distance with what he showed today he has to be one of the main contenders for the World Championships.
Campenaerts looking very good too.

 

[SafeBet]

 

[Red Rick]

Is he gonna switch to road fulltime after Tokyo?

 

[SafeBet]

Is he gonna switch to road fulltime after Tokyo?

That's the plan yeah. Wiggo 2.0?

 

[Red Rick]

That's the plan yeah. Wiggo 2.0?

I think he's too pretty for that tbh.

 

[movingtarget]

Incredible win at the Worlds. Dennis has another rival.

 

[TomLPC]

Annoying this lad, top cyclist, brooding good looks, rich asf, whole life ahead of him.

If he ain't hung like a hamster the world just isn't fair.

 

[tobydawq]

Annoying this lad, top cyclist, brooding good looks, rich asf, whole life ahead of him.

If he ain't hung like a hamster the world just isn't fair.

Maybe we can get bob.a.feet on the case. He is after all our resident all-things-penis-related explorer.

 

[memyselfandI]

Incredible win at the Worlds. Dennis has another rival.

"Learn respect, you will"
- Master Remco-

 

[BlueRoads]

How do you like his new bike?
I like the golden letters, but the blue on the yellow-gold makes it look a bit like someone tried to clean it before the colour had dried?

 

[Sciatic]

How do you like his new bike?
I like the golden letters, but the blue on the yellow-gold makes it look a bit like someone tried to clean it before the colour had dried?

Whoa, look how skinny those seatstays are. Although do we still call them seatstays if they attach nowhere near the seat?

 

[jmdirt]

How do you like his new bike?
I like the golden letters, but the blue on the yellow-gold makes it look a bit like someone tried to clean it before the colour had dried?

Color is too subjective to comment on, but what a fuggin ugly contraption!

EDIT: ...Ganna made that hideous contraption fly!

 

[Anderis]

Please edit this thread title to "Filippo Ganna is the new Bradley Wiggins".

 

[BlueRoads]

Please edit this thread title to "Filippo Ganna is the new Bradley Wiggins".

Put a photo of Ganna next to a photo of Wiggins and then think about your sentence again. Right. Be ashamed of yourself!

Okay, probably not too bad to be compared to a Tour winner...

 

[Anderis]

Put a photo of Ganna next to a photo of Wiggins and then think about your sentence again. Right. Be ashamed of yourself!

Okay, probably not too bad to be compared to a Tour winner...

A track rider who started on the road as a TT-specialist before realising that he can climb and is riding for Sky/Ineos!

How much Wigginsier can it get?

He will be the next Ineosbot to win a TT-heavy GT, mark my words.

OK, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, but I'm going to come back with this quote in case Ganna will actually do a good GC somewhere in the future.

 

[Eclipse]

Sure longer than the Tirreno ITT.
If I'm not mistaken a few months back Ganna was telling Eurosport Italia that his worst efforts are between 30 and 50 minutes.
Said he has improved but he can still suffer in those.

When people were saying his efforts get better again after 50 minutes I wasn't quite envisaging this.

 

[BlueRoads]

A track rider who started on the road as a TT-specialist before realising that he can climb and is riding for Sky/Ineos!

How much Wigginsier can it get?

He will be the next Ineosbot to win a TT-heavy GT, mark my words.

OK, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, but I'm going to come back with this quote in case Ganna will actually do a good GC somewhere in the future.

I was just talking about looks again...
But yes, before this stage I doubted that GT potential.

 

[Red Rick]

All that's left is for Il Giro to poop out a Tour 2012 route.

 

[ice&fire]

All that's left is for Il Giro to poop out a Tour 2012 route.

They'll revisit the routes of the Moser-Saronni years and will call it a tribute to the race heritage

 

[Cookster15]

Color is too subjective to comment on, but what a fuggin ugly contraption!

EDIT: ...Ganna made that hideous contraption fly!

Marginal gains includes forgoing aesthetic beauty. Very un-Italian.