Teams & Riders Filippo Ganna Discussion Thread

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oldcrank

oldcrank

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Yeah, I was really looking forward to seeing how fast Fil could ride at the Kolodruma so soon after the Giro. Brad McGee wrote the book on this topic by, dare I say, humiliating Sir Wiggo in the 2002 Madchester Commie Games pursuit final only days after finishing the Tour, which included a stage win (on a day that saw all four Aussies in the Tour finish in the top eight of the stage!). McGee's win is a scenario I like to point out to riders (young and old) when they think they haven't got their "taper" right.
 
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tobydawq

tobydawq

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jmdirt said:
o_O My abdomen clinched when I read "Filippo Ganna positive...", I was glad that it was C19. I didn't want the rainbow stripes to be dirty so I was glad that he had a potentially deadly disease? What is wrong with me?!

I hope that he recovers quickly, and then has a nice training season!
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Relax, it's not potentially deadly to him.
 
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jmdirt

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tobydawq said:
Relax, it's not potentially deadly to him.
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Its potentially deadly to everybody. Its likely not deadly to him. For myself, and I assume many would agree, long-haul effects would be horrible. Not being able to ride and do other active things would destroy me.
 
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jmdirt

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WOOHOO PG!

I could win on that bike! :rolleyes:
EDIT: OH, 58 kph, I thought it said 8 kph! :p
 
SafeBet

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Also, don't know if it's true but RAI reports that he's the first rider ever to win 4 ITTs at the Giro before turning 25.
 
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Bonimenier

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I'm actually really hyped for the Olympic TT. It will be fun to see how he does on a rolling terrain with all the top TTers present. On paper it should him less than the WC TT this year.
 
Red Rick

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I believe that unless there's bigger climbs, it doesn't really matter. The middle ITT in the Giro last year had a proper muro in it and it didn't hurt Ganna in the slightest.
 
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Tim Cahill

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I'm apprehensive that Brailsford is giving him the eyes thinking about how to beat the Slovenians at the tour, he overdid it with that 2020 giro win darting up the mountains.
 
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Bolder

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Red Rick said:
I don't think any pure TT specialist ever got a lot of love in rider threads. People seem most interested in if he'll turn to a one day racer one day.
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Yeah, beyond saying he's really fast contre le montre, it’s hard to say much more. But I do hope he becomes much more than just a Tim de clercq type super domestique.
 
Mayomaniac

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Bonimenier said:
It's hard to imagine that he can't be an elite rider in a race like PR or the Flemish classics either. Probably will largely depend on how long and how serious he wants to keep riding on the track.
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I hope he goes the Viviani route and only does Track during an Olympic year. He really wants to take back the IP world record at the Track WC, that's one of his big goals. Interesting to hear that he said before the race that his body was fine, but that he was mentally tired after this season with multiple goals both on the road and on the track.
I think it's no coincidence that he was at his most dominant last year when he didn't do any track cycling after the early season.
 
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Red Rick

Red Rick

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Tbh I'm also not entirely sure what to expect from him on the road and we should be a bit careful just expecting him to ride around like Cancellara.

There's plenty of great ITTers that didn't do all that much in one day races. I don't know what Gannas power profile looks like, but Cancellara both had underrated endurance and puncheur ability.
 
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Volderke

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Bonimenier said:
It's hard to imagine that he can't be an elite rider in a race like PR or the Flemish classics either. Probably will largely depend on how long and how serious he wants to keep riding on the track.
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Unfortunately, he isn't doing PR, while I feel it's the perfect moment to try it out and see if it's something... He's 25 and if he wants to learn how to win, he should gain some experience so in the next 5 years (should be his best years) he has a good chance to win it.
  • If it goes better than expected and Ganna has the cobble fever, he only needs to wait 6 months to have another try.
  • if he has bad fortune and e.g. crashes, there is a whole winter to get back in shape.
 
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Volderke said:
Unfortunately, he isn't doing PR, while I feel it's the perfect moment to try it out and see if it's something... He's 25 and if he wants to learn how to win, he should gain some experience so in the next 5 years (should be his best years) he has a good chance to win it.
  • If it goes better than expected and Ganna has the cobble fever, he only needs to wait 6 months to have another try.
  • if he has bad fortune and e.g. crashes, there is a whole winter to get back in shape.
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The big man's next goal is to beat Lambie's record at sea level and then to smash it in Tibet.
 
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Mayomaniac

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Red Rick said:
Tbh I'm also not entirely sure what to expect from him on the road and we should be a bit careful just expecting him to ride around like Cancellara.

There's plenty of great ITTers that didn't do all that much in one day races. I don't know what Gannas power profile looks like, but Cancellara both had underrated endurance and puncheur ability.
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Ganna isn't explosive for an IP guy, someone like Jonathan Milan who has a great sprint is probably a lot better in that regard.
Peak shape Ganna could probably just ride people off his wheel on the Poggio...
 
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