FLandis Watch

[this_is_edie]

Wiki got Brad Wiggan's nickname right.

ha ha ha

touche.

 

[BikeCentric]

What would prompt that comment? We are all human, and in that we are not perfect at all. We can all lead by our present examples, not our pasts. We all can be role models. I know you have all done wrong either deliberately or by accident. No one is above that. Even the members on this board. Most of whom have never raced a bike professionally but instead prefer to lurk on boards like this, passing judgement on everyone else like it's some kind of shootout. You all are so high and mighty- Until you've been there and done it, it's pretty hard to know what you'd do. Armchair sportsmen, gotta love em. (sarcasm).

Ah yes, the old "insult and belittle the fans" technique. This is indeed a highly effective method for you to raise donations for your charity team and engender much grassroots support for pro cycling and its riders.

But hey, you don't get paid a Wal-Mart Greeter wage to race your bike based on your IQ now do you?

 

[Colm.Murphy]

a puck back at me. someone must keep you on your toes. irritating innit?

for what its worth, the point is you've exposed the nature of your intentions, be it baiting with your quick-flip calling of the hypocrite. is that all you can add?

hate the dopers?

do you enjoy being entertained by cycle racing?

do you enjoy music? what are your fave bands? illuminate us.

 

[Big GMaC]

sigh, I guess you need to practice your google skills and and not everything on wikipedia is correct.

From http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/oneill-set-to-return-with-bahati-foundation-team

"While the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) found that O'Neill was at "no significant fault" for the doping positive and attempted to levy a 15-month reduced ban, which would have allowed him to race the 2009 season, an appeal by ASADA, the UCI and the World Anti-Doping Agency resulted in a full two-year ban with an effective end-date of June 13, 2010."


so who's whiner now?

edit to add: more info on this one: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/oneill-out-until-2010

But now:

While the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) found that O'Neill was at "no significant fault" for the doping positive and attempted to levy a 15-month reduced ban, which would have allowed him to race the 2009 season, an appeal by ASADA, the UCI and the World Anti-Doping Agency resulted in a full two-year ban with an effective end-date of June 13, 2010.

But O'Neill revealed that this decision had been overturned this summer, putting the end of his suspension at an amorphous date sometime two years after a point between the date of his positive test and the date he was notified.

"The anti-doping authority recognized that the June 13 date was wrong and rectified the situation, but they didn't actually give me a firm date the suspension would end - but the latest date, that of my notification on September 23, means I am actually eligible to race now."

Despite being cleared to race, O'Neill said he would not race the Australian National Championships in Ballarat this January.

from: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/oneill-set-to-return-with-bahati-foundation-team

 

[Hugh Januss]

But now:

While the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) found that O'Neill was at "no significant fault" for the doping positive and attempted to levy a 15-month reduced ban, which would have allowed him to race the 2009 season, an appeal by ASADA, the UCI and the World Anti-Doping Agency resulted in a full two-year ban with an effective end-date of June 13, 2010.

But O'Neill revealed that this decision had been overturned this summer, putting the end of his suspension at an amorphous date sometime two years after a point between the date of his positive test and the date he was notified.

"The anti-doping authority recognized that the June 13 date was wrong and rectified the situation, but they didn't actually give me a firm date the suspension would end - but the latest date, that of my notification on September 23, means I am actually eligible to race now."

Despite being cleared to race, O'Neill said he would not race the Australian National Championships in Ballarat this January.

from: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/oneill-set-to-return-with-bahati-foundation-team

Well, that's crystal clear then.

 

[Big GMaC]

Well, that's crystal clear then.

It is to me?

Ban was to run until June 2010, but has been overturned (or back-dated) to a different point. He was eligable from late in '09, but chose not to compete at the Aussie Nats, started the season with Team Bahati.

edit. It was a 24month ban, no reduction. The change was moving the start of the ban from the failed appeal result of June 2008 to the time of the actual offense in late 2007, making him eligable for the Aussie Nats in early '10. The aim of the 15month appeal was to have him ready for the 2009 season, which obviously didn't happen.

So NO ban reduction, just a back dating to the orginal offense, not the conclusion of the appeal.

I think this clears it up?

 

[this_is_edie]

thanks GMac.

now back to Flandis. Is it a good move for the Bahati to hire him? I assume they think that he can win races again even though he had no results last year.

Will his presence detract from the team's mission? Is any publicity good publicity?

 

[xnobrakesx]

Of course it was a good idea, that team has already shown itself to be strong in the early races, as has FLandis. Flandis can hope for a bid to the AToC and still race against Euros now. Plus Utah and Cascade are both suited to him.

 

[BroDeal]

thanks GMac.

now back to Flandis. Is it a good move for the Bahati to hire him? I assume they think that he can win races again even though he had no results last year.

Will his presence detract from the team's mission? Is any publicity good publicity?

I think it is a good deal for Bahati. They probably got FLandis for cheap. Assuming that Landis is fired up and angry, as he appears to be, then he should be able to get some results. A lot of people probably buy into his "done in by the French" schtick.

I think it is a bad move for Landis, but he probably did not have any other options.

 

[knewcleardaze]

Anyone care to venture to guess what a team like Bahati Foundation can afford to pay someone like Landis? My guess would be maybe $40,000 a year?
What do others think?

 

[Oldman]

Anyone care to venture to guess what a team like Bahati Foundation can afford to pay someone like Landis? My guess would be maybe $40,000 a year?
What do others think?

Plus incentives probably.

 

[pedaling squares]

What would prompt that comment? We are all human, and in that we are not perfect at all. We can all lead by our present examples, not our pasts. We all can be role models. I know you have all done wrong either deliberately or by accident. No one is above that. Even the members on this board. Most of whom have never raced a bike professionally but instead prefer to lurk on boards like this, passing judgement on everyone else like it's some kind of shootout. You all are so high and mighty- Until you've been there and done it, it's pretty hard to know what you'd do. Armchair sportsmen, gotta love em. (sarcasm).

Welcome back.

a puck back at me. someone must keep you on your toes. irritating innit?

for what its worth, the point is you've exposed the nature of your intentions, be it baiting with your quick-flip calling of the hypocrite. is that all you can add?

hate the dopers?

do you enjoy being entertained by cycle racing?

do you enjoy music? what are your fave bands? illuminate us.

WTF?

I don't know how much inner city youth are going to relate to small town Mennonite boy who rode hard, won big, and got nabbed for cheating. Seems like a weird way to inspire them.

I like the way velonews wrote about Landis being caught.
Floyd Landis won the 2006 Tour de France, but was later disqualified after a French anti-doping lab reported that he tested positive for synthetic testosterone during the race.
Sounds like those nasty Frenchmen are making up rumours about our good hometown boy. Why not just say that his pee contained synthetic testosterone?

 

[frenchfry]

Welcome back.



WTF?

I don't know how much inner city youth are going to relate to small town Mennonite boy who rode hard, won big, and got nabbed for cheating. Seems like a weird way to inspire them.

I like the way velonews wrote about Landis being caught.
Floyd Landis won the 2006 Tour de France, but was later disqualified after a French anti-doping lab reported that he tested positive for synthetic testosterone during the race.
Sounds like those nasty Frenchmen are making up rumours about our good hometown boy. Why not just say that his pee contained synthetic testosterone?

I see someone else picked up how Velonews interprets the Landis affair. I guess doping suspensions are now based on "reports", no need for messy arbitration hearings and appeals to instances in far away lands.

 

[BroDeal]

I see someone else picked up how Velonews interprets the Landis affair. I guess doping suspensions are now based on "reports", no need for messy arbitration hearings and appeals to instances in far away lands.

The comments on the Velonews article are classic. The Velonews readers must be smokin' the good stuff.

The CN article can be read to imply that the ToC will be important for Bahati and FLandis will target it. I would love to see FLandis beat Bottle.

 

[blackcat]

The comments on the Velonews article are classic. The Velonews readers must be smokin' the good stuff.

The CN article can be read to imply that the ToC will be important for Bahati and FLandis will target it. I would love to see FLandis beat Bottle.

does Bahati have a UCI licence? If not, they cant ride ToC.

I bet they dont. Aren't they a parking lot crits team?

 

[fatandfast]

Lil' Wayne would have been the only dumber choice than Floyd. Bahati could have kept on message about the promotion of education and expansion of the sport for troubled youth. Landis's trouble happened as an adult and was a result of privilege and selfishness. The chance to get additional backing for his feel good squad will be lessened with Capt Controversy on the team. Maybe Landis can wear a dred wig for effect. He is getting less than 40k

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

does Bahati have a UCI licence? If not, they cant ride ToC.

I bet they dont. Aren't they a parking lot crits team?

Yes, Bahati has a UCI Continental licence.

http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTU4MTU&LangId=1

Susan

 

[BroDeal]

does Bahati have a UCI licence? If not, they cant ride ToC.

I bet they dont. Aren't they a parking lot crits team?

Bahati has a UCI Continental license.

Will they get an invite to the ToC?? I would think that with Bahati being a local, they would likely get an invite.

 

[Anonymous]

I like Bahati's team. Adding FLandis doesn't change that.

 

[Anonymous]

Good for FLandis! I hope Bahati's team is highly successful so they can shove it into Michael Ball's sack!

 

[Angliru]

does Bahati have a UCI licence? If not, they cant ride ToC.

I bet they dont. Aren't they a parking lot crits team?

What makes you think that they don't? You know, google is your friend.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

just noticed the bahati presentation is in Los Angeles at a NOKIA center/LA Live. Noticed that it is an AEG facility. AEG - Tour of California - Bahati.... could imply they will be racing there?

 

[Boeing]

parking lot crit team? bwaahahahahahah dude that is great. and floyd still sports the 70's porn stash

Parking Lot Cat 1 team at that!

go away floyd

 

[BroDeal]

parking lot crit team? bwaahahahahahah dude that is great. and floyd still sports the 70's porn stash

That's not a porn stache. That's the unshaven douchebag beard look.

Zabriskie has been known to rock a porn stache.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Tom Ritchey has been true to his 'stache forever. tip o the hat to Tom.