Florian Lipowitz is the new German GC hope discussion thread

[Berniece]

Exactly! The calender do have more races then the TdF.

Nonetheless it was of course highly impressive

Definitely, if he rides podium this year he should get his shot at a GT as sole leader next year.

 

[acm]

I'm not asking about some 2014 but how many guys would do better than Lipowitz & Vingo today? Maybe inform S.Yates, who else?

Roglič in form.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Almeida would like a word.

Almeida is the new Landa?

(Mythical climber who never actually wins GTs but gets rated above actual GT winners)

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Almeida is the new Landa?

(Mythical climber who never actually wins GTs but gets rated above actual GT winners)

Stating that someone is a better climber than a GT-winner isn't contradictory, though.

 

[ppanther92]

Best German GC rider since Ulrich?

That probably was Klöden.

But apart from Klöden, there is also not much competition. You had Jaksche at the same time but already levels below. Then you had years where Gerdemann and transforming Martin were the best hopes. Obviously Buchmann in recent years with his 4th but a whole different level that we see today.

So yes, indeed already among the best GC riders from Germany.

 

[Lequack]

Video - Experts praise Florian Lipowitz after gala at the Tour de France mountain finish: "Showed what he can do today"​

The Eurosport experts honor Florian Lipowitz after his gala performance at the mountain finish of the Tour de France in Hautacam: "He showed what he can do today" - Robert Bengsch and Jens Voigt assess the performance of the Red Bull professional in the Velo Club with Holger Speckhahn,

Experten adeln Lipowitz: "Hat heute gezeigt, was er kann"

Die Eurosport-Experten adeln Florian Lipowitz nach seiner Gala bei der Bergankunft der Tour de France in Hautacam: "Er hat heute gezeigt, was er kann" - Robert Bengsch und Jens Voigt ordnen die Leistung des Red Bull-Profis im Velo Club mit Holger Speckhahn ein,

www.eurosport.de

 

[Pozzovivo]

That probably was Klöden.

But apart from Klöden, there is also not much competition. You had Jaksche at the same time but already levels below. Then you had years where Gerdemann and transforming Martin were the best hopes. Obviously Buchmann in recent years with his 4th but a whole different level that we see today.

So yes, indeed already among the best GC riders from Germany.

Linus Gerdemann hype erasure

 

[Lequack]

Fun fact. Andreas Kloden and Jan Ulrich are almost the same age.

 

[ppanther92]

Fun fact. Andreas Kloden and Jan Ulrich are almost the same age.

I know but for me Klöden is still in a “later generation”

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Yeah, I'm all about the Lipowitz hypetrain but right now he is still miles behind Klöden in terms of GC potential/level.
Klöden was a one week stage race killer and with better team strategy should've probably had one Tour victory (2006) and if he weren't such a selfless "dont give a feck, just pay me and I'll do whatever job" rider would've had more GT palmares in terms of podiums/higher classification positions.

I'd also be slightly cautious if Lipowitz can really keep this up for the whole Tour because Denk once again confirmed yesterday that his training and plan was structured to peak at the Dauphine and he is basically just carrying his form over. So let's see.
What's good about him that his base level is already incredible high and there's still a lot of room for improvement. Both in terms of tactical race savviness (so far he races like a dog chasing frisbees) as well as in specific abilities, his kick is pretty terrible, his puncheur level very mid and just from eye test I also don't think his cadence is great the way he is grinding.
What he is already really good at is his pacing strategy, both in ITTs as well as on climbs and overall he seems to have the right enthusiasm for the sport.

 

[geisterhome]

Yeah, I'm all about the Lipowitz hypetrain but right now he is still miles behind Klöden in terms of GC potential/level.
Klöden was a one week stage race killer and with better team strategy should've probably had one Tour victory (2006) and if he weren't such a selfless "dont give a feck, just pay me and I'll do whatever job" rider would've had more GT palmares in terms of podiums/higher classification positions.

I'd also be slightly cautious if Lipowitz can really keep this up for the whole Tour because Denk once again confirmed yesterday that his training and plan was structured to peak at the Dauphine and he is basically just carrying his form over. So let's see.
What's good about him that his base level is already incredible high and there's still a lot of room for improvement. Both in terms of tactical race savviness (so far he races like a dog chasing frisbees) as well as in specific abilities, his kick is pretty terrible, his puncheur level very mid and just from eye test I also don't think his cadence is great the way he is grinding.
What he is already really good at is his pacing strategy, both in ITTs as well as on climbs and overall he seems to have the right enthusiasm for the sport.

That was a pretty dumb move, if its really true that he was peaking for the Dauphine without reason pretty much, just to face Pogacar and Vinge there lol...

Think he can either try to become an elite TT rider or get a somewhat better punch.

 

[Lequack]

This Florian is a funny guy

View: https://youtu.be/Reqm2hkS0N4?si=8FzqiUJBjSd9t5mh

 

[xuziqiangnuctech@outlook.]

As a amateur biathlon player, it's really exciting to see Florian having a good chance to chase for TOP5 or even higher in Tour

 

[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1946237654279839964

View: https://x.com/letour_de/status/1946237654279839964

 

[Pozzovivo]

biathlon player

Biathlete?

 

[Wyndbrook]

As a amateur biathlon player, it's really exciting to see Florian having a good chance to chase for TOP5 or even higher in Tour

So the stage start he rocks up with a rifle on his back is the day he really means business.

 

[iBanesto]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q__OKp8lH4A

 

[Pozzovivo]

Perhaps others don’t consider it this way, but for me, the aesthetic expression of a rider plays a decisive role in where my allegiance lies. I must admit, Lipowitz rides with such gritty finesse that he’s firmly written into my book of love.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Very close to aliens today.
Pretty solid in GC 3rd, but many hurdles ahead.

 

[xuziqiangnuctech@outlook.]

Another day to prove he is the 3rd-best climber in this Tour for sure

 

[Links2003]

The cycling hype is definitely back in Germany. He's definitely having a strong year and a really great Tour. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he can keep it up until the end, even if his form was planned for the Dauphine.
The pressure will of course increase after that. But he seems to be able to handle it well. For the future, he needs to become a bit more powerful for attacks oder steeper, short hills, then you can look very positively at what he can still achieve.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

The cycling hype is definitely back in Germany. He's definitely having a strong year and a really great Tour. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he can keep it up until the end, even if his form was planned for the Dauphine.
The pressure will of course increase after that. But he seems to be able to handle it well. For the future, he needs to become a bit more powerful for attacks oder steeper, short hills, then you can look very positively at what he can still achieve.

Maybe joining the sport late and therefore having his breakthrough in his mid 20s rather than as a 19 year old will be a benefit to him as far as being able to handle media pressure.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Maybe joining the sport late and therefore having his breakthrough in his mid 20s rather than as a 19 year old will be a benefit to him as far as being able to handle media pressure.

Also not having stupid coaches already comparing him to Ulle on German media as a junior rider...

 

[Red Rick]

The man is getting media trained a Slovenian bs generator he'll be fine.

 

[kingjr]

The cycling hype is definitely back in Germany. He's definitely having a strong year and a really great Tour. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he can keep it up until the end, even if his form was planned for the Dauphine.
The pressure will of course increase after that. But he seems to be able to handle it well. For the future, he needs to become a bit more powerful for attacks oder steeper, short hills, then you can look very positively at what he can still achieve.

What do you think he can realistically achieve beyond a podium at the TdF?