Floyd to pay back Floyd fairness fund

[Oldman]

I hoped he would do something like this and will be pleased if it occurs. Even if he ends up with nothing he'll have that part of his conscience cleared.

 

[pedaling squares]

Well a lot of people have written that they won't buy into his apologies until he repays the money, so here you go. No point dumping on him for doing what was asked of him. It sounds like a logistical nightmare but good for him for making the effort.

 

[Oldman]

Well a lot of people have written that they won't buy into his apologies until he repays the money, so here you go. No point dumping on him for doing what was asked of him. It sounds like a logistical nightmare but good for him for making the effort.

++it's only the right thing to do. He doesn't go directly to cycling heaven but his head will clear.

 

[Protein]

Well a lot of people have written that they won't buy into his apologies until he repays the money, so here you go. No point dumping on him for doing what was asked of him. It sounds like a logistical nightmare but good for him for making the effort.

You have a point there, but I suspect this is part of the immunity deal. It would be a PR headache for Novitzky if he is prosecuting Armstrong for fraud whilst giving Landis' fraudulent legal fund charity a pass.

I'm surprised it's taken this long to get a resolution to the matter.

 

[Juicy McDrip]

This is great news!

Floyd will establish The Floyd is Fair and Will Repay Fund to help pay off the Floyd Fairness Fund.

All square. All good.

 

[AussieGoddess]

Forgive my naivity (or stupidity ) but what is the whistleblower payment? How does he get money out of proving that Lance doped?

In fact, why is the US government investigating? surely it should be the UCI or WADA investigating the evidence ... its within the statute of limitations still?

 

[Juicy McDrip]

Hello Aussie Goddess

Based on that name, I can only assume you're a 475lb male axe murderer sitting under a single bulb in an Arkansas basement.

Rgardless...I don't know how Roid Landis makes coin as a whistleblower. I can't imagine he would get paid by USA Cycling. WADA, USADA or US government.

It may be that Roid is doing this simply to avoid time and future costs. Cutting his losses.

Then..tabloid money could be good. For example..what would the Sun pay if Floyd were to pose topless? Probably big bucks, especially as a whistleblower.

On a related note , we play a game on the East Coast USA called "Touch The Amish". It's big fun and you get points/money for types/severity/discomfort of touches (touch, back-slap, hug, etc.). Where am I going with this?....well....Floyd is worth HUGE MONEY in Touch the Amish.

If I were to counsl Roid, I'd push him in that direction for some decent income. And a cool hat.

 

[tubularglue]

refund with accrued interest

youd'manfloyd

the truth shall set u free

 

[flicker]

I think Floyd gets 1/3 of any lawsuit which the government collects upon the defendents in the case.

 

[scribe]

Anyone seeking a refund should circle your mailing address on blank check (signed please) and include $100 cash for shipping and handling. Send in asap so that the refund can be properly expedited.

 

[JRTinMA]

I think Floyd gets 1/3 of any lawsuit which the government collects upon the defendents in the case.

Floyd is not trying to get paid he's just trying to clear his head so he can finally sleep at night.

 

[flicker]

Floyd is not trying to get paid he's just trying to clear his head so he can finally sleep at night.

That makes me feel better about my donation!

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Anyone seeking a refund should circle your mailing address on blank check (signed please) and include $100 cash for shipping and handling. Send in asap so that the refund can be properly expedited.

You're getting it mixed up with Livestrong.

 

[Juicy McDrip]

You're getting it mixed up with Livestrong.

I don't think so. I'm wearing a Landistrong bracelet. So ha-ha!

It cost $249.99.

 

[mmedeast]

Gotta be honest, this comes across far more as a part of a twelve step program more than anything else. I'm not saying that because of implied problems, but just how it sounded. Maybe it's the 12 step program for reformed dopers, I don't know. Just how it came across.

 

[Oldman]

I don't think so. I'm wearing a Landistrong bracelet. So ha-ha!

It cost $249.99.

At least it didn't cost you your soul.

 

[Bike Opera]

I believe that Floyd is sincere. I don't think he's bullsh*tting....I think he's for real.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=5652787
"Birdsong and wind in the evergreen branches form the soundtrack in Idyllwild. Landis is warmly greeted by the proprietor and chef of a local bistro when he shows up for lunch or a coffee, but the locals also understand his need for privacy and leave him be. This is a good place to flee, to stew and to ponder, and Landis has done a lot of that in the past few months, his moods oscillating as his initial revelations spin into events now beyond his control. A couple of weeks ago, he summarized his thoughts about repaying Fairness Fund donors in a letter that concluded:

"I am acutely aware that accepting money on a false premise and then later returning it does not erase the lie, and I'll live with the fact that I lied to trusting people, but I want to live an honorable life and I hope that people will see this as a starting point toward that goal."

That ethereal mission isn't anything like the goals he used to set for himself as an athlete, with a sense of purpose he misses and will have to struggle to replace. In the meantime, Landis said he has no choice but to try, in a very different way than before, to put his money where his mouth is."

 

[NashbarShorts]

Learn how to hide somebody or just don't read my posts. Back under the bridge now troll.

Oh, so now it's not enough that Floyd came clean, told the truth, and is pledging to repay the Fairness Fund. He now has to first sell his house in order to satisfy you. Right on.

BTW, ppl who say "back under the bridge now troll" are L-OSERS. Seriously, are you 5yo?

 

[TheDude]

Floyd is not trying to get paid he's just trying to clear his head so he can finally sleep at night.

Man, it is going to take a boat-load of dope to do that.

 

[AussieGoddess]

Hello Aussie Goddess

Based on that name, I can only assume you're a 475lb male axe murderer sitting under a single bulb in an Arkansas basement.

Well I can assure you I am definitely Aussie and female - though Goddess may be a slight exageration

On a related note , we play a game on the East Coast USA called "Touch The Amish". It's big fun and you get points/money for types/severity/discomfort of touches (touch, back-slap, hug, etc.). Where am I going with this?....well....Floyd is worth HUGE MONEY in Touch the Amish.

Ah ... so THATS where the money is.

Oh, so now it's not enough that Floyd came clean, told the truth, and is pledging to repay the Fairness Fund. He now has to first sell his house in order to satisfy you. Right on.

Well - selling his house would be a start. Sorry - but anyone who plays the victim card that much for that long .... and duping people into donating money to him .... before eventually coming out and admitting that he was doping all along, that he lied to all and sundry eh whole way through and wasnt actually a victim at all ....

It will take a LOT more than simply telling people he will give back the money to get me to beleive that he is on the side of the angels.

 

[AussieGoddess]

ah ....

after much searching and reading, I have found the answer to my question about why the law suit from Landis and what he hopes to gain.

One of the reasons that many of us who are into cycling believe the investigation is important is that the governing bodies are duplicitous/inept/bought off/generally corrupt. Getting to the root of what went on with Tailwind/Postal/LA and his financiers/etc has the potential to shed a lot of disinfecting sunlight on a broken system.


However, neither of the two separate but potentially related investigations is about "Did LA dope?" per se. Nor are they about "LA is a big bad liar" or USAC/UCI/etc are miserably corrupt. Nor are they about moral high ground. They are about possible illegal and fraudulent actions.

The first is the Novitsky investigation, which apparently started with Michael Ball and Rock Racing after the former landlord of former Rock rider Kayle Leogrande found a bunch of PED paraphernalia in Legorande's empty apartment. When the FLandis emails were leaked (not by Flandis himself BTW, despite the LA camp claiming they were - see "Personal Vendetta" above), Novitsky began to investigate those claims as well, presumably since he was already investigating drugs in cycling. I don't know that anyone knows for sure what exactly Novitsky is driving toward, although it would seem that he is seeking to uncover widespread distribution of PEDs. Since the "D" in PED stands for drugs, PEDs are regulated by the FDA. If they are being distributed under the table, then their distributors are obviously avoiding FDA regulation. So the FDA investigator is investigating. Under the table also implies tax evasion, so Dirk is the right man for the job since he's a former IRS investigator as well. Federal investigators get paid out of federal coffers (i.e., tax dollars) to investigate potential criminal behavior.

The other is a civil matter, initiated by Flandis' whistelblower lawsuit, a concept that exists to encourage citizens to nudge the government into action when citizens know that the government has been defrauded. Landis' observation of organized doping at Postal is tantamount to the observation of Postal defrauding the USPS to the potential tune of ~30 million bucks. The contract between the two parties states very clearly "Thou shalt not dope." If the arm of the gov't that pursues whistleblower lawsuits finds enough corroborating evidence to support FLandis' claims, then they may decide to seek compensation from Postal and its business affiliates (Tailwind et al). If the feds pursue this case, it will be to recover federal monies. And Flandis will only receive a cut of whatever $$ (if any) the feds might recover from suing Postal/Tailwind & Co.

thanks ... that makes sense

I guess if he does get some money out of the law suit he can use that to reapy the donations he received .... and I am assuming he gets immunity as well?

If not, would he (Landis) be persued for his own fraud and perjury?

 

[la.margna]

I like Floyd - still consider him the TdF winner in 2006.
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Finally something we agree on, Polish!

Yeah, Floyd is my hero since the Morzine stage. And I knew from the bad day when his positive test was published that he had been lying. So when he came out this year and finally told the truth, I was so glad. Finally a guy who respects truth and honesty. Finally, finally. Good news. I sincerely hope he will be able to pay all the money back. Respect, Floyd!

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Finally something we agree on, Polish!

Yeah, Floyd is my hero since the Morzine stage. And I knew from the bad day when his positive test was published that he had been lying. So when he came out this year and finally told the truth, I was so glad. Finally a guy who respects truth and honesty. Finally, finally. Good news. I sincerely hope he will be able to pay all the money back. Respect, Floyd!

I Wonder what drug's he is on now. But can one really be that honest. I mean who is. Unless there is something in it for themselves.

 

[timmers]

Well if you paid him money you were a fool.

I think you write it of to life and say well Floyd must feel better from telling the truth!

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Well if you paid him money you were a fool.

I think you write it of to life and say well Floyd must feel better from telling the truth!

He should of told the truth a long time ago. Then he would not be in this position. Pity the fool. One thing is for sure the Guy sure thrives on publicity.