Four to seven more doping cases possible before Tour start

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Frosty said:
Maybe as each team comes up they will have a reality TV-style selection where the spotlight falls on each rider in turn and Pat McQuaid takes the Simon Cowell* role of 'you're through to the Prologue' or 'you failed.'

* judge on British (and US i think?) reality TV.
Thats a great idea!! It could be called 'Dope Idol'!
 
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Rumor mill says its the following

Evans
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4 positive tests for one person. And you wondered why he was magically able to 'attack'
 
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Alexzulle said:
Rumor mill says its the following

Evans
Evans
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4 positive tests for one person. And you wondered why he was magically able to 'attack'
And would this "rumour mill" have any legit sources?

As for implying Evans doesn't attack, he's a pretty attacking rider....just not at the TDF.
 
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And let us guess, the rumour mill - that's actually just alexzulle above, at the computer, tapping away - right?
 
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Well according to 98% of the threads on this website real legitimate sources are not required to prove someone was doping, only jealousy of success.
 
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Alexzulle said:
Well according to 98% of the threads on this website real legitimate sources are not required to prove someone was doping, only jealousy of success.
Right. I thought as much :p
 
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Alexzulle said:
Well according to 98% of the threads on this website real legitimate sources are not required to prove someone was doping, only jealousy of success.
Oh dear, another one....
 
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Someone here (sorry, forgot who) posted a 'theory' about what was or wasn't in the interests of the UCI in terms of who gets busted. It'll be interesting to see just what 'level' of rider these names turn out to be. If the theory is right then it won't be any established names from today's pantheon (like Cancellara et al), but less known names, whose transgressions won't have a major impact.

Looking forward to this like my next toothache.
They could very well be saving a big name for Saturday morning.
 
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I agree , if they know who they are it should be announced now, not right when the Tour is about to start. I guess it is sought to be some sort of punishment for the team by forcing them to start the race in disadvantage if they have a doped cyclist
 
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codrutc said:
I agree , if they know who they are it should be announced now, not right when the Tour is about to start. I guess it is sought to be some sort of punishment for the team by forcing them to start the race in disadvantage if they have a doped cyclist
First the riders must be told. Only then can they announce it.

And it's very normal for riders to not pick up the phone, thus delaying the process.
 
Alexzulle said:
Well according to 98% of the threads on this website real legitimate sources are not required to prove someone was doping, only jealousy of success.
Right. And the Weekly World News is actual investigative journalism too.

You insult your namesake's legacy with such comments. :mad:

 
Andre.J said:
Kreuziger was there too
Wealthy family, so he should OK.;)

Having just watched the team presentation in Monaco, I don't think I've ever seen so many somber, not to say, downright miserable looking blokes.
Nerves? Maybe, but you would have thought they were lined up for execution, not a roll of honour.

The only guy who looked genuinely happy and carefree?
Would be a real dark horse pick: Frank Schleck.

Even Lance was a bit subdued, although, for some mysterious reason, those nasty "Frenchies" gave him the biggest cheer....
....another myth for the bin/can.
 
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Mellow Velo said:
Even Lance was a bit subdued, although, for some mysterious reason, those nasty "Frenchies" gave him the biggest cheer....
....another myth for the bin/can.
Fanboy explanation: "Those weren't frenchies. It was Monaco. Completely different"
 
39*23t said:
dan martin was also at the tour of romandie
If Dan Martin is one of the suspects, then I will be lining up behind BigBoat in the everyone is doping camp. A young guy with a lot of talent on a vocally anti-doping team. I am not innocent but I would finally turn to the dark side if this is true.
 
Mar 18, 2009
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Lloyd Mondory throws some wood into the fire by saying that since he rode with Frank Schleck in youth categories and thus knows him well, he's not surprised at all that Frank's career wasn't a natural progression like is normal in clean athletes, but instead a very sudden and very huge jump from average to top rider around the time where his payments to Fuentes were made.

He also threw some poison Cancellara's way

You can just feel the love. It's like woodstock.....99
 
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pmcg76 said:
If Dan Martin is one of the suspects, then I will be lining up behind BigBoat in the everyone is doping camp. A young guy with a lot of talent on a vocally anti-doping team. I am not innocent but I would finally turn to the dark side if this is true.
agree with you. dan martin is one the riders i follow. Personally I don't think he doped just listing riders who were pulled from the tour following the ASO announcement
 
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Lloyd Mondory throws some wood into the fire by saying that since he rode with Frank Schleck in youth categories and thus knows him well, he's not surprised at all that Frank's career wasn't a natural progression like is normal in clean athletes, but instead a very sudden and very huge jump from average to top rider around the time where his payments to Fuentes were made.

He also threw some poison Cancellara's way

You can just feel the love. It's like woodstock.....99
Wow, it is getting good and nasty. Funny though, here in the states there is little to no mention of any of the recent activity. I guess they don't want to sully any reputations before the big return?
 
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Thoughtforfood said:
Wow, it is getting good and nasty. Funny though, here in the states there is little to no mention of any of the recent activity. I guess they don't want to sully any reputations before the big return?
I don't think it's that kind of conspiracy TFF, it's just that in America we just don't have any kind of comparable to Europe media coverage of cycling. All we have is VeloNews which I think is completely terrible and refuse to read because it's crap. When the big networks like Associated Press and Reuters cover cycling they just pick the biggest stories off the wire and reprint them; they will never ever pick up the good stories which are interviews with and coverage of obscure (to Americans) riders. Guess I should quit whining, learn to speak Flemish, and get a subscription to Het Niewsblad. :D
 
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I don't think it's that kind of conspiracy TFF, it's just that in America we just don't have any kind of comparable to Europe media coverage of cycling. All we have is VeloNews which I think is completely terrible and refuse to read because it's crap. When the big networks like Associated Press and Reuters cover cycling they just pick the biggest stories off the wire and reprint them; they will never ever pick up the good stories which are interviews with and coverage of obscure (to Americans) riders. Guess I should quit whining, learn to speak Flemish, and get a subscription to Het Niewsblad. :D
I don't know, I remember last year and the years before reading and seeing stories about the busts before the tour.....then again, I read cyclingnews.com and have for years. I am wondering if my 41 year old memory is starting to become fuzzier. Hey, did I take my Geritol today?
 
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39*23t said:
agree with you. dan martin is one the riders i follow. Personally I don't think he doped just listing riders who were pulled from the tour following the ASO announcement
And he was not present to defend his Irish title last Sunday - with Garmin saying they had him with the team doing the TTT.

But pmcg76 as a fellow Paddy I have my excuses already at hand..

If he had won a stage he is Irish...
If he is busted then he is a 'Plastic Paddy' as he was born in Birmingham ;)
 

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