Fox News

[VeloCity]

Hahahahaha 2

Where do I begin. Let's start with "Don't be so gullible, McFly". In light of this whole thread, that the bit about being misinformed about "climate change" gave me a chuckle. I suspect Foxnews viewers would also be most misinformed about "Das Kapital" and feminist theology. You people just swallow up this crap without question, don't you?

There are similar polls and studies showing just the opposite to be true, but the truly open-minded person doesn't give them the light of day and certainly doesn't brag about their one-sidedness. I bet Hitler came up with some astounding studies about the inferiority of Jews, gypsies, and blacks.

http://www.zogby.com/news/2008/11/18/zogby-poll-almost-no-obama-voters-ace-election-test/

Man, I do have to admit that there are times I wish I were a conservative. It must be nice to be able to just dismiss everything out of sheer ignorance. So much easier not to have to do all that research and stuff.

 

[jordan5000]

Fox News: The trolling network.

 

[Anonymous]

Well you just keep on believing that. No amount of evidence will convince the closed minded.

Scott, again, none of this is new - it's all been covered a million times over. A simple 5-minute Google search will answer all of your questions.

What you should be asking is, what do we stand to lose if our theories are proven correct (which, btw, they largely have been)? Cause that's by far the more relevant question.
A link of convenience. I don't really care one way or the other what that blogger has to say about it. Still, aren't you the one accusing others of not being open-minded toward differing viewpoints? Maybe you should practice what you preach instead of just dismissing it out of hand.

I've said before. I'm a bit of a skeptic. I know enough to know not to believe everything I read. I know enough to know very few sources of information will come at me without some sort of bias.

Like I said, it might be insightful to see how the study was conducted. Just because a University did a study on subject X does not mean a lot unless there is a fair amount of follow up.

Sorry, that's how I roll.

 

[Anonymous]

Man, I do have to admit that there are times I wish I were a conservative. It must be nice to be able to just dismiss everything out of sheer ignorance. So much easier not to have to do all that research and stuff.

Got any experts to back this up, or is this just opinion?

 

[frenchfry]

It might be insightful to see how the questions of the study were phrased.. but when I read this;



alarm bells go off. I'm not convinced of man-made climate change even if most of the "experts" march in lock step. A good follow up question might be "what do you, Mr. Climatologist, stand to lose (your reputation, your grant money) if your theories are proved lacking?".... or "what financial incentive are you receiving to conduct your research?"... I can think of dozens more but I think you get my point.

Edit: USNEWS reporting on the study is, um, rich.

Just like some people are not convinced smoking causes cancer, despite a lot of experts saying it does. After all everyone has an aunt or uncle that has smoked all their life and is in perfect health.

Of course smoking causes cancer - you would have to be stupid to think otherwise. You would also have to be stupid to think that dumping megatons of toxic gases into the air and megatons of plastic garbage into landfills isn't having a negative effect on the planet.

Like smoking and cancer, the relationship between cause and effect of pollution and global warming isn't linear so the naysayers manage to seed some doubt in fertile minds.

 

[VeloCity]

I've said before. I'm a bit of a skeptic. I know enough to know not to believe everything I read. I know enough to know very few sources of information will come at me without some sort of bias.

Like I said, it might be insightful to see how the study was conducted. Just because a University did a study on subject X does not mean a lot unless there is a fair amount of follow up.

Sorry, that's how I roll.

I'm assuming that you believe that the earth is round and that the planets orbit the sun. If so, why do you believe that?

 

[Rouetheday]

Hahahahaha 2

Where do I begin. Let's start with "Don't be so gullible, McFly". In light of this whole thread, that the bit about being misinformed about "climate change" gave me a chuckle. I suspect Foxnews viewers would also be most misinformed about "Das Kapital" and feminist theology. You people just swallow up this crap without question, don't you?

There are similar polls and studies showing just the opposite to be true, but the truly open-minded person doesn't give them the light of day and certainly doesn't brag about their one-sidedness. I bet Hitler came up with some astounding studies about the inferiority of Jews, gypsies, and blacks.

http://www.zogby.com/news/2008/11/18/zogby-poll-almost-no-obama-voters-ace-election-test/

I'm not surprised you resorted to using Godwin's Law, here. I'd encourage others here to link over to the short film Kielbasa has in his signature line (180movie.com). It tries to draw parallels between the Nazi Holocaust and the so-called 'Abortion Holocaust' . It's absolutely pathetic and embarrasing and will probably cause some of you to reconsider whether or not this guy's posts are even worthy of a response.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I'm not surprised you resorted to using Godwin's Law, here. I'd encourage others here to link over to the short film Kielbasa has in his signature line (180movie.com). It tries to draw parallels between the Nazi Holocaust and the so-called 'Abortion Holocaust' . It's absolutely pathetic and embarrasing and will probably cause some of you to reconsider whether or not this guy's posts are even worthy of a response.

Just a documentary that has an opinion just like all docu's. I do not share the same opinion but everyone has their own. That will not make me not read his or her posts.

 

[kielbasa]

I'm not surprised you resorted to using Godwin's Law, here. I'd encourage others here to link over to the short film Kielbasa has in his signature line (180movie.com). It tries to draw parallels between the Nazi Holocaust and the so-called 'Abortion Holocaust' . It's absolutely pathetic and embarrasing and will probably cause some of you to reconsider whether or not this guy's posts are even worthy of a response.

Yeah, how dare I. I ought to be censured and censored. What an offense to a rational man's sensibilities to draw parallels between one kind of murder and another, about one kind of human life with another. Every liberal knows people aren't equal based on their age.

http://www.redbubble.com/people/mugsy/art/205538-hear-no-evil-see-no-evil-speak-no-evil

 

[kielbasa]

Just a documentary that has an opinion just like all docu's. I do not share the same opinion but everyone has their own. That will not make me not read his or her posts.

Thank you. I respect that.

 

[kielbasa]

I'm assuming that you believe that the earth is round and that the planets orbit the sun. If so, why do you believe that?

This has already been covered.

 

[kielbasa]

Fox News: The trolling network.

Are you saying that the OP is a Fox News troll? Otherwise, that makes no sense.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Keep some things in mind. As RR pointed out, a very small % actually watch Bill O'Reilly. However there are indeed a very, very vocal group that pushes an ideology similar to his. He who yells loudest isn't right, but they are often the most heard. That's what you're finding carried across the Atlantic.

It would be like Americans looking at DSK and assuming half of the French population of men are probably rapists.

Also understand that the world has been divvied up into sound bites much of the time. The news often works that way, like everyone is ADD. Watch a news package from the days of Walter Cronkrite - they were often several minutes long, going into good details, showing good analysis. The same package today would be about 45 seconds. I imagine Europe isn't much different. The only thing with Fox or O'Reilly Factor (or a show like Olberman for that matter) is the bias in the tone.

 

[titan_90]

I'm not surprised you resorted to using Godwin's Law, here. I'd encourage others here to link over to the short film Kielbasa has in his signature line (180movie.com). It tries to draw parallels between the Nazi Holocaust and the so-called 'Abortion Holocaust' . It's absolutely pathetic and embarrasing and will probably cause some of you to reconsider whether or not this guy's posts are even worthy of a response.

Good old Ray Comfort
I would expect nothing less from that fool.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm assuming that you believe that the earth is round and that the planets orbit the sun. If so, why do you believe that?

Yes, I believe that.

But I'm not sure we ever landed on the moon.
















That was a joke.

 

[frenchfry]

I'm not surprised you resorted to using Godwin's Law, here. I'd encourage others here to link over to the short film Kielbasa has in his signature line (180movie.com). It tries to draw parallels between the Nazi Holocaust and the so-called 'Abortion Holocaust' . It's absolutely pathetic and embarrasing and will probably cause some of you to reconsider whether or not this guy's posts are even worthy of a response.

Not to judge the premise of the film, but if nothing else the last 2/3 is tiresome. I also don't think the guy's argument is as brilliant as he appears to think it is.

 

[VeloCity]

Yes, I believe that.

And you believe that why?

 

[VeloCity]

btw, yet again today, another Fox News regular was caught misrepresenting poll results - his own poll results, in fact:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2...own-poll-results-to-smear-occupy-wall-street/

I wonder why Fox viewers are so misinformed?

 

[Anonymous]

Just like some people are not convinced smoking causes cancer, despite a lot of experts saying it does. After all everyone has an aunt or uncle that has smoked all their life and is in perfect health.

Of course smoking causes cancer - you would have to be stupid to think otherwise. You would also have to be stupid to think that dumping megatons of toxic gases into the air and megatons of plastic garbage into landfills isn't having a negative effect on the planet.

Like smoking and cancer, the relationship between cause and effect of pollution and global warming isn't linear so the naysayers manage to seed some doubt in fertile minds.

You would also have to be stupid to think that dumping megatons of toxic gases into the air and megatons of plastic garbage into landfills isn't having a negative effect on the planet.

Have we determined co2 to be toxic? What happens to the photosynthesis process without co2?

At extreme levels co2 is toxic, I get that. But too much water intake can be toxic as well.

Look, there are some very bright people who don't agree on the cause of increasing surface temps. It's difficult to read what the 'naysayers' have to say (while following the money) without real doubt creeping into my mind.

Just for grins, how do we stop emitting co2? How do we stop the coming catastrophe? How do we stop China and India from growing their economies? How do we stop rice production? How do we stop methane escaping to the atmosphere?

You can't solve this by buying carbon off-sets.

 

[Anonymous]

btw, yet again today, another Fox News regular was caught misrepresenting poll results - his own poll results, in fact:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2...own-poll-results-to-smear-occupy-wall-street/

I wonder why Fox viewers are so misinformed?

Oh gawd, A friggin' democrat misstates his own poll results on a supposed right wing show. Oh, the IRONY.

And you rely on the 'experts' over at thinkprogress.

Awesome. Your best work.

 

[Anonymous]

And you believe that why?

Experts..........

 

[Rouetheday]

Yeah, how dare I. I ought to be censured and censored. What an offense to a rational man's sensibilities to draw parallels between one kind of murder and another, about one kind of human life with another. Every liberal knows people aren't equal based on their age.

http://www.redbubble.com/people/mugsy/art/205538-hear-no-evil-see-no-evil-speak-no-evil

Is it possible that we could all refrain from accusing those who disagree with us of wanting to 'censor' us? That carries about as much intellectual weight as Pee Wee Herman's, "I know YOU are, but what am I?" I was a bit let down by Scott SoCal's charge earlier in this thread that leftists would pull FoxNews from the airwaves if given the chance. I've always considered him one of the more thoughtful conservatives here, with... oh how to describe it... a 'rational man's sensibilities'.

 

[VeloCity]

Oh gawd, A friggin' democrat misstates his own poll results on a supposed right wing show. Oh, the IRONY.

Schoen is a political analyst. On Fox News.

And using one's own data to show the exact opposite of what it actually says is not "misstating".

And you rely on the 'experts' over at thinkprogress.

Nope. I rely on Schoen's own words in his WSJ opinion piece and Schoen's own polling data, both of which are presented in the link provided by thinkprogress. Which I'm assuming you didn't bother to check.

btw by "Democrat" Schoen, do you mean the same one who fundraised for and donated to GOP candidates? That one?

 

[kielbasa]

btw, yet again today, another Fox News regular was caught misrepresenting poll results - his own poll results, in fact:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2...own-poll-results-to-smear-occupy-wall-street/

I wonder why Fox viewers are so misinformed?

ThinkProgress BREAKING NEWS: NY Post smears Wall Street protesters by calling them thieves.

 

[Anonymous]

Schoen is a political analyst. On Fox News.

And using one's own data to show the exact opposite of what it actually says is not "misstating".

Nope. I rely on Schoen's own words in his WSJ opinion piece and Schoen's own polling data, both of which are presented in the link provided by thinkprogress. Which I'm assuming you didn't bother to check.

btw by "Democrat" Schoen, do you mean the same one who fundraised for and donated to GOP candidates? That one?

So, Schoen is now not a democrat? Is that what you are saying?

So Fox puts on a broadcast someone who, in most circles, would not be considered right wing and presents something that you (thru your network of experts) feels is misleading and that represents what? Some sort of conspiracy?

Do you not see the irony here?

Hey (tapping into microphone) is this thing on???