Frank Schleck's comments

[taiwan]

2) Why did he do Lux and TDS if its not good prep?

Fair point - whether he was going to the Tour as lieutenant or captain he needed to be in form, so someone f'd up. Possibly Schleck is trying to make the point that The Hog did.

 

[Galic Ho]

He was the best climber in the Tour de Suisse and was easily on the best form of all the contenders.

He has been on form since the Ardennes and to maintain such a peak is not feasible.

Hypocrisy. Look it up in the dictionary. Now apply the logic you use here to Wiggins. Still think he's not in top form? You've got the selective bias blinkers on. Oh and while I'm at it, at this date, guess who has the better Tour record? Who has actually won a stage, on Alpe d'Huez no less?

Keep it real dude FFS. You might want to bank on Froome if history plays out again.

 

[patrick767]

I'm puzzled too by Schleck's defeatist attitude and apparent unwillingness to lead. Sorry that everything hasn't been perfect this season, Frankie boy. Nonetheless, he's still very likely to be the best GC hope for Radioshack at the TdF. Even if his prep hasn't been ideal, and I really don't see how he's overdone it this year, a champion goes in and performs as best they can. They leave it all on the road. If they fall short, well, at least they were in there fighting. It's the Tour de France.

 

[BillytheKid]

FFS.

Are you seriously going to argue now that Schleck hit form optimally???

Gah.

Or did you expect him to do a Horner and go training in June and be left out of the Tour shortlist???

Horner rode the Cali, the Ardenes Classics, the Basque Country (injured out of Calfornia, 2nd at TA.)

Frank had a break or did he ride Romandie?

Kind of tough to do a turn around and ride in early June after the Cali. Not impossible, but not great. Horner kind of has always gone his own way.

At least he shows some of his age. According to Horner, he's back on the list???

 

[cineteq]

Hypocrisy. Look it up in the dictionary. Now apply the logic you use here to Wiggins. Still think he's not in top form? You've got the selective bias blinkers on. Oh and while I'm at it, at this date, guess who has the better Tour record? Who has actually won a stage, on Alpe d'Huez no less?

Another great catch of double standards, beautiful!!! LOL!!!

 

[taiwan]

Of course there's always...

 

[cineteq]

At least he shows some of his age. According to Horner, he's back on the list???

Is he? He still reports he's training though...Love to see Horner as the team leader of this sinking ship

 

[Publicus]

You're right. A friend or a family member using middle names is not disrespectful. A nameless poster on a bb who 99% of the time has nothing good to say or looks for fault in every word or action using a middle name would mean that he doesn't respect the person enough to use the first name.

I see I finished my paste and crayons early and the short bus isn't quit here yet, so I have a moment to respond to your latest gem.

One, I have a name on this bulletin board (publicus!) and I even have one in outside of this forum too! Two, 99% is way too high (even for someone engaging in hyperbole). I actually generally like René and certainly make it clear that I respect their talent--though I am critical of Raymond for various reasons that need not be repeated here. Also, there is a difference between being critical and disrespectful. I try to avoid being disrespectful because I do respect their talent. Three, I still am not showing any disrespect by using their given names. I'm not calling them Frandy or L'il Orphan Andy or anything derogatory like that. The statements were I utilize their middle names may or may not be critical of them, but the simple use of their middle names, without more, is not disrespectful. Four, I think you are projecting a wee bit here. I'm perfectly clear on WHY I'm using their middle names (I'm sure you came across the response to cimber) so there's no need to project your own colored views on to my own. I presume because of your mental superiority you would have arrived at that conclusion on your own, however the fact that you posted it nonetheless makes me question the premise of you being my mental superior as you've previously concluded.

Now I have to go and pretend to work for the day.

EDIT: And apologies everyone for this digression from this thread.

 

[BillytheKid]

(injured out of Calfornia, 2nd at TA.)

That should be injured out of Ctalunya.

 

[erader]

I'm puzzled too by Schleck's defeatist attitude and apparent unwillingness to lead. Sorry that everything hasn't been perfect this season, Frankie boy. Nonetheless, he's still very likely to be the best GC hope for Radioshack at the TdF. Even if his prep hasn't been ideal, and I really don't see how he's overdone it this year, a champion goes in and performs as best they can. They leave it all on the road. If they fall short, well, at least they were in there fighting. It's the Tour de France.

he doesn't want to be captain because he doesn't want to be blamed when he loses. he's already a loser, imo.

erader

 

[Angliru]

People are different. Some of them are more insecure than others.

But I digress.

Interestingly Andy himself says that is one of Frank's weaknesses. Lacking confidence in himself. Andy is the opposite.

 

[BillytheKid]

Is he? He still reports he's training though...Love to see Horner as the team leader of this sinking ship

I get the joke.

Now that he's going to the Olympics, the Tour of Austira and the Wallonie would be a better choice.

 

[roundabout]

I see I finished my paste and crayons early and the short bus isn't quit here yet, so I have a moment to respond to your latest gem.

One, I have a name on this bulletin board (publicus!) and I even have one in outside of this forum too! Two, 99% is way too high (even for someone engaging in hyperbole). I actually generally like René and certainly make it clear that I respect their talent--though I am critical of Raymond for various reasons that need not be repeated here. Also, there is a difference between being critical and disrespectful. I try to avoid being disrespectful because I do respect their talent. Three, I still am not showing any disrespect by using their given names. I'm not calling them Frandy or L'il Orphan Andy or anything derogatory like that. The statements were I utilize their middle names may or may not be critical of them, but the simple use of their middle names, without more, is not disrespectful. Four, I think you are projecting a wee bit here. I'm perfectly clear on WHY I'm using their middle names (I'm sure you came across the response to cimber) so there's no need to project your own colored views on to my own. I presume because of your mental superiority you would have arrived at that conclusion on your own, however the fact that you posted it nonetheless makes me question the premise of you being my mental superior as you've previously concluded.

Now I have to go and pretend to work for the day.

EDIT: And apologies everyone for this digression from this thread.

One. A BB handle is not a name. You are nameless as far as I am concerned. What the hell is a "publicus" anyway?

Two. You obviously look for faults. The way you kept on posting about one remark in this thread says it all.

Three. Once again, I never wrote that the simple use of middle names alone is disrespectful. Even you agree on that. So I am not really sure what the hell your point three is about.

Four. The "reason" you gave is weak in the extreme. And you are certainly being far from clear. Even when they don't "carry on like twins" you still use middle names. I am sure you were "trying to avoid being disrespectful" when calling Frank Rene when he was attacking in Switzerland while his brother was sitting on a cushion in Luxembourg. Right? After all, you allegedly generally like him and respect his talent. Right? But of course when Frank made the race yesterday he still didn't "earn" the right to be referred to by his first name even for a few minutes during the stage.

Five. You are right, I am not mentally superior to you. But I generally try to avoid being smug and dishonest .Maybe you should try it to.

Six. If the mods want to delete this post, do so, but I would like him to read it first.

Edit: you yourself admit that you don't use middle names out of respect or endearment or anything else. For you it's just a substitute for Frandy that you think is clever and can now dishonestly hide behind the fact that the names were given by their parents.

You're a grade A ******.

 

[noddy69]

There is a defeatist element to it, but I think the statement also shows a (possibly unhealthy) degree of respect to Contador. It can easily be seen as Frank saying "Look, when Contador did this much racing, he was a shadow of his normal self. If he can't do it, what hope have I?". Yes, Contador had a tougher Giro-Tour double with a full, more brutal Giro and crashes in the Tour, but the point remains that these days, very few riders are going to have a proper crack at both the Giro and Tour.

All you Contador fans need to get a grip. Everyone knows that sportspeople are rarely 100% truthful in the media. This could all be a bluff, stop throwing a hissy fit every time anyone compares themselves to Contador.

I wouldnt class myself as a Contador fan. Im certainly not having a hissy fit. I think Frank is being delusional comparing his prep and the Giro to what Alberto tried to do. In using AC comparison he was silly. Alberto set out to try and win both and raced that way. Frank...well he didnt race the Giro and made excuses before he started so thats setting out to win both out the window........so not even having to go any further Franks own comparison is deluded.

I think he should be dropped from the team for the tour....no im not joking, he doesnt want to play ball at the team so he should be treated that way, it might just teach him and his brother a harsh lesson.

 

[cineteq]

I think Frank is being delusional comparing his prep and the Giro to what Alberto tried to do.

Frank has an agenda, that's all...don't read too much into his comments. Now, RSNT bring Horner back please!

 

[MrRoboto]

So...Now the team is filled with GC candidates who doesn't want to lead?

 

[LaFlorecita]

......

ffs wtf is wrong with you? It's just a nickname, calm down!

 

[Havetts]

ffs wtf is wrong with you? It's just a nickname, calm down!

Roundabout is right though..

 

[roundabout]

ffs wtf is wrong with you? It's just a nickname, calm down!

I don't mind Frandy, Candy, Tandy and whatever.

But hiding behind their names when the same thing is meant is just douchy.

 

[taiwan]

FWIW those are some of the worst nicknames ever. On the overfamiliar, creepy side. Even calling riders by their first name is a bit funny when I think about it: blurring the boundary between fantasy and real life - we don't actually know these people.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I don't mind Frandy, Candy, Tandy and whatever.

But hiding behind their names when the same thing is meant is just douchy.

So what? Why do you care so much?

 

[LaFlorecita]

FWIW those are some of the worst nicknames ever. On the overfamiliar, creepy side. Even calling riders by their first name is a bit funny when I think about it: blurring the boundary between fantasy and real life - we don't actually know these people.

Heeey. There's nothing wrong with calling riders by their first name.

 

[roundabout]

So what? Why do you care so much?

Why do you care so much about me caring, huh?

 

[hoerpi]

There is a defeatist element to it, but I think the statement also shows a (possibly unhealthy) degree of respect to Contador. It can easily be seen as Frank saying "Look, when Contador did this much racing, he was a shadow of his normal self. If he can't do it, what hope have I?". Yes, Contador had a tougher Giro-Tour double with a full, more brutal Giro and crashes in the Tour, but the point remains that these days, very few riders are going to have a proper crack at both the Giro and Tour.

All you Contador fans need to get a grip. Everyone knows that sportspeople are rarely 100% truthful in the media. This could all be a bluff, stop throwing a hissy fit every time anyone compares themselves to Contador.

Thank you for posting this! My reaction to Fränks statement was also that he respects Contador as the best, chapeau Fränk. A pity this place is so filled with hatred

 

[LaFlorecita]

Why do you care so much about me caring, huh?

I care because half of this thread is now a fight between you and Publicus.