Frank Schleck's comments

[roundabout]

Or maybe you are annoying and not as smart as you think you are.

 

[Froome19]

Dont u remember the twitter war between Frank and Rasmussen?

Btw I was close to add Fleche Wallone too, but after looking it up it was only Andy who whined. Fränk > Andy any day of the week.

Anyways, do u reckon he might be trying to pull him self out of the Tour to be ready in the Vuelta for Andy? I dont think so, but then again u never know (0;...

Indeed I forgot about that you are right.

My point was that Frank is sometime blamed a lot for things which are just down to his situation he has put himself in.

I cant imagine he would dare pull himself out of the Tour, the wrath which would be directed towards him by his team manager and the forum would be unbearable for him. He will certainly not be able to do it if his team has a rider up there but if they dont then maybe he will but I respect Franks integrity and I dont think he would delibarately slight the Tour in such a way.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Edit: I see roundabout's post got deleted.

Edit2: And mine as well..??

 

[cineteq]

So he's peaked already at TdS? And on the other hand, Wiggins said he hasn't peaked yet? Who should I believe?
Frank's issue is clearly Bruyneel and RSNT, and he's preparing his exit. The boat is sinking.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

So he's peaked already at TdS? And on the other hand, Wiggins said he hasn't peaked yet? Who should I believe?
Frank's issue is clearly Bruyneel and RSNT, and he's preparing his exit. The boat is sinking.

I think you are right.
It's not as if Frank completed the hardest part of the Giro.
He can't be expected to replace his Bro. Andy - who he would have
raced around.
It's a nice poke at Wiggins long stretch of form.

 

[Angliru]

He dared to accuse a Dane of causing him to fall...

Anyway, am I the only one who is expecting that hog's final decree from his bunker would iclude not taking Frank to the Tour?

That would be a recipe for continued disaster. He's got 1 rider (Frank Schleck) that doesn't want a leadership role partially because of what people will say when he inevitably fails (his belief). Another (Kloden) that when given the leadership role in a grand tour generally fails and seemingly doesn't covet it at all. The 3rd and last rider (Horner) that Bryuneel's already excluded from the Tour roster for reasons that he's contradicted himself on upon Andy's announced non-participation due to his injury. What a mess!

Not having either of the Schleck's will have Becca steaming. Although it would give them a 1-2 versus Contador at the Vuelta that would make the Vuelta even more exciting.

 

[Angliru]

I think you are right.
It's not as if Frank completed the hardest part of the Giro.
He can't be expected to replace his Bro. Andy - who he would have
raced around.
It's a nice poke at Wiggins long stretch of form.

The fact that at the end of his interview he tossed in that he knew people would criticize him for failing, implying that that is one of the reasons for his not wanting a leadership role is really a disturbing attitude to admit to for such a high level competitor.

 

[Fourier]

Maybe he wants to escape the TDF so he can babysit his brother at the Vuelta

 

[chucko]

He was the best climber in the Tour de Suisse and was easily on the best form of all the contenders.

He has been on form since the Ardennes and to maintain such a peak is not feasible.

And no that isnt the reason behind them leaving Saxo, though it is partially the reason behind them moving to RSNT

Has he really been on form since the Ardennes? Surely if he had been on form for the Ardennes then that would typically be his first peak of the season (as is the case for many potential Tour contenders) then they take a rest and build up again for the Tour (hence why about 3 years ago a number of the top Tour riders rode the Giro (Wiggo, Lance etc) to gain some base fitness etc to tune up for the Tour.

I'm sorry but he just not taking responsibility. He could call him a useful domestique for the mountains, but the only problem with him there is he's unreliable!

I don't dislike either of the Schlecks, I guess it's just a case of seeing a waste of massive talent, similar to Jan Ullrich really. It's probably fair to say Ullrich was more talented than Lance, but Lance had the focus and head on his shoulders to overcome him.

 

[Froome19]

Has he really been on form since the Ardennes? Surely if he had been on form for the Ardennes then that would typically be his first peak of the season (as is the case for many potential Tour contenders) then they take a rest and build up again for the Tour (hence why about 3 years ago a number of the top Tour riders rode the Giro (Wiggo, Lance etc) to gain some base fitness etc to tune up for the Tour.

I'm sorry but he just not taking responsibility. He could call him a useful domestique for the mountains, but the only problem with him there is he's unreliable!

I don't dislike either of the Schlecks, I guess it's just a case of seeing a waste of massive talent, similar to Jan Ullrich really. It's probably fair to say Ullrich was more talented than Lance, but Lance had the focus and head on his shoulders to overcome him.

He could have taken a break and built up for the Tour via the Giro but that wasnt what he did thanks to JB's masterplan to send him to the Giro as a contender after Fuglsang's injury

 

[chucko]

He could have taken a break and built up for the Tour via the Giro but that wasnt what he did thanks to JB's masterplan to send him to the Giro as a contender after Fuglsang's injury

Yes but he wasn't in the Giro for long and didn't appear to be pushing himself hard - hence JB's dismay!

 

[Pandora]

That would be a recipe for continued disaster. He's got 1 rider (Frank Schleck) that doesn't want a leadership role partially because of what people will say when he inevitably fails (his belief). Another (Kloden) that when given the leadership role in a grand tour generally fails and seemingly doesn't covet it at all. The 3rd and last rider (Horner) that Bryuneel's already excluded from the Tour roster for reasons that he's contradicted himself on upon Andy's announced non-participation due to his injury. What a mess!

I think they should give it to Jensie!
Jens The Team Leader... sounds good to me

 

[Publicus]

Dont u remember twitter-gate? (the twitter war between Frank and Rasmussen)

Btw I was close to add Fleche Wallone too, but after looking it up it was only Andy who whined. Fränk > Andy any day of the week.

Anyways, do u reckon he might be trying to pull him self out of the Tour to be ready in the Vuelta for Andy? I dont think so, but then again u never know (0;...

The thought crossed my mind briefly. Is Kim Andersen angling to be DS for the Vuelta as well???

However you slice René's comments, it's a weak thing to say. The Contador comparison was just dumb and inappropriate since René didn't come close to racing for the overall and this year's Giro parcourse was slightly less grueling than the 2011 addition. I have the strangest feeling we wouldn't hear anything about this if Raymond was around (they'd be playing their usual tune about have two or more cards to play, etc., etc.,).

 

[LaFlorecita]

It's the disease, c&cfan.

Frankie said everything right. Damn, they know the things waaaaaay better than you sitting in a chair and imposingly bashing anyone you dislike. Deal with it!

So... Frankie was right when he compared himself to Alberto??

 

[airstream]

So... Frankie was right when he compared himself to Alberto??

Only Contador fans were so sensitive to take it like a comparison whereas that just was a little lyrical digression without having a goal to contradict one rider another one. Even if so, what's wrong?

 

[roundabout]

Can I use Velasco instead of Contador?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Can I use Velasco instead of Contador?

Of course, why not? Zam also calls him Velasco.

 

[Fidolix]

“Last year he won the Giro and for that he paid a price in the Tour. He was not strong enough and he has not even raced between the Giro and the Tour, as I now do.”

If not that is to compare him self to Contador I dont know what is...
Frank, he finished the Giro you ****, one of the hardest Giros in decades, and he didnt raced between the giro and the tour like you do?
Well, he did the nationals but I guess that dosen¨t count.

He talks like he have peaked since may...as I recall his biggest concern riding the Giro was his form, he wasnt sure he could make it peak to make a good result in the last week... but I guess that excuse is now irrelevant and useless, and we better move on to the next one...I cant keep my form...

you peaked my a.., and its just another excuse to drop the tour, save your self so you can ride with your bro in the Vuelta.

 

[Tom T.]

The Schlecks' main weakness—besides the TT—has always been between their ears.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Even if so, what's wrong?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/schleck-doesnt-want-captains-role-at-tour-de-france

So.. who is going to remind him that Contador actually raced the giro, dominated it, made the nationals, raced and made the tour despite the bad luck and had already raced and won other stage races prior to that?

The sport would be better without the shlecks. we need guys with a strong personality, that's true.. but arrogance, stupidity and hypocrisy must have their price.

good riddance.

Exactly!

Do you think a rider like vino or contador would even think about saying something similar?

they would say:"ok.. i cannot win.. so what is the point of being here?oh.. to bring them hell. makes perfect sense."

Yes the comparison sucks ****. One because as c&c already noted it isn't even true what he says because Alberto raced a lot of races and won the Giro and was still pretty awesome in the Tour. And how can he even compare himself to Alberto? Alberto raced a much harder Giro and won, while Fränkie just dropped out when things started getting interesting. But now that Alberto failed in the Tour Frandy have another excuse to never race another GT. We also heard that from Hog.

of course it's wrong to compare them....

but actually that's what frank does in that interview,comparing himself with alberto

i also think this is a strategy by the shack, frank will be in super shape for the climbs,and i don't know from where you guys understood that frank won't peak in le tour


that interview puts all the pressure now on klodi oh boy

The usual "trick" Schlecks do on the media to downplay rival's success and hide their failures. I think their target are casual fans who only see TdF

This began with Sastre in Alp d'huez so...

...........

 

[nowhereman]

No need to be so aggressive towards frank.
Its not as if he wanted this to happen.

Aw, he's such a victim. waaaa, waaaa waaaa. Frank AND Andy have turned into the lamest most overrated duo. Put up or shut up. Frank ought to forget about trying to compare himself( that's right, HE'S the one doing the comparing) with Contador, and try the comparison with the 2009 Armstrong. The Armstrong that went to the Giro, raced the whole thing (after a broken collarbone in April). Then went to the TdF, and came in 3rd. And he was an old man (37) returning from a few years off the bike, AND I'M NOT A LANCE FAN, AT ALL. I am a Contador fan, and Frank is not worthy of a comparison to Alberto.

 

[airstream]

Do you offer me to take с&cfan's words on faith?

Just stop cooking up the reasons to bash the Schlecks. It's getting paranoid.

 

[Havetts]

Contador fans are really the only ones who take offense when the Schlecks compare their seasons to him.. If it were Pierrick Fedrigo who wouldve made the same comparison, none of you crazy fanboys/girls wouldve cried.

 

[will10]

If Frank had come out and said "look I'm in really good form, maybe a little too much too soon, hopefully it'll hold until the Tour but I might drop off a little before then. We'll see" rather than "I'm screwed, no way can I lead the Tour team" then no-one would've batted an eyelid. Every year we see guys perform in June and there's always the question of whether they'll still be there for July.

 

[roundabout]

People are different. Some of them are more insecure than others.

But I digress.