Cobo has won mountain stages of two GTs, top 10ed the Vuelta and won País Vasco.hatcher said:A lot of riders without great pedigree finished ahead of those three.
Cobo, Kessiakoff, Poels, Seeldraeyers, Pardilla, Roche himself, Lagutin, Majka, Dessel, among 31 other not particularly notable names all finished ahead of Scarponi and Anton.
Scarponi and Anton should face more questions about their performances than the above riders.
blackcat said:no, Froome in 2008 Queen Stage at TDF. he was with the front group over all passes.
This is indeed a natural progression had he been gifted the favoured son status of a national, say, a Bauke Mollema.
Does anyone raise an eyebrow at Porte.
Froome is much classier than Porte.
No one cares about Porte's lack of history.
Froome has been put on ice for a while because of woes at Barloworld then injuries. Otherwise, everyone would talk of this putative yet specious natural progression like Dan Martin and Tony Martin and anyone with a surname named Martin.
Froome won what I believe was the Regioni Queen, which is Italy's Avenir b4 BioGiro.Dekker_Tifosi said:HELLO!?!?!
Mollema won the Tour l'Avenir. The biggest U23 stage-race + The Circuito Montanes, one of the most important stage-races for U23 riders.
He;s been a major talent all his career and had much, much more to go with than Froome.
Take off your Froome glasses
That's because until last weekend all 3 were more proven in the mountains than Froome. Maybe not Zandio (though he did win the Vuelta a Burgos back in '08), but certainly Lövkvist and Cioni had much more mountain pedigree.greenedge said:It's odd as he was not even supposed to be support for Wiggins in the mountains, that task went to Lokvist, Cioni and Zandio.
Good point.roundabout said:I should start a Pellizzotti ignorance thread, or a Sella ignorance thread, or a Scarponi ignorance thread.
These guys actually finished top 20 in a GT in their first pro year at the same age as Froome finished 81st.
And snail fever.element said:He's clearly a lot leaner than he was even back in 2009. If he was capable of those results as a 22 year old in the tour, it's not inconceivable that he could be doing what he's doing now with good health, lower weight, altitude training, and a more structured race program.
What Tour results? He did OKish in a couple of stages. Whoa.element said:He's clearly a lot leaner than he was even back in 2009. If he was capable of those results as a 22 year old in the tour, it's not inconceivable that he could be doing what he's doing now with good health, lower weight, altitude training, and a more structured race program.