Froome is Sky's best chance to win Le Tour

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Pricey_sky said:
I think Sky were right to tell Froome to slow down. He is payed well to support Wiggo to win the tour.

A sky 1-2 would be great but it's not worth risking BW losing time to his rivals because his own team mate attacked. Froome should still get 2nd overall anyway as Nibali/Evans/VDB would have to be at least 2 minutes clear of him going into that final TT next week.

Hopefully Sky have told Froome to support BW this year then he can get his chance next year. Froome v Contador would be fantastic to watch and i think Froome would just shade it because of his good TT.

Of Course. Contador is a very poor tine trialler and is probably just on par with Froome on the climbs.:p
 
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gingerwallaceafro said:
No not clearly.

I think Froome would have got 30-40 secs at most leaving him more than a minute down. He might be able to get more time back in the Pyrenees, but he'd get owned in the final TT. Wiggo is the man.

gingerwallaceafro said:
Apologies Swede, I reread your post, Froome is clearly the best climber in the race, I concur.

I'd say though that well I'd like to see Froome attack and make it an close GC battle, from Sky's point of view it would probably be less risky to just keep wiggo in the lead and have froome help him out in the mountains. But still I hope that Froome goes for it in the pyrenees just for excitement.
 
Pricey_sky said:
I think Sky were right to tell Froome to slow down. He is payed well to support Wiggo to win the tour.

A sky 1-2 would be great but it's not worth risking BW losing time to his rivals because his own team mate attacked. Froome should still get 2nd overall anyway as Nibali/Evans/VDB would have to be at least 2 minutes clear of him going into that final TT next week.

Hopefully Sky have told Froome to support BW this year then he can get his chance next year. Froome v Contador would be fantastic to watch and i think Froome would just shade it because of his good TT.

Honestly... dude!

:confused::confused:
 
Vino attacks everyone said:
Honestly... dude!

:confused::confused:

Perhaps I worded the last sentance wrong, obviously Contador is also a very good in the TT's but I thnk Froome would still take a few seconds off him there and he could stay with him in the mountains. Of course I'm going to say that though as im a Sky fan.
 
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Swede1 said:
I'd say though that well I'd like to see Froome attack and make it an close GC battle, from Sky's point of view it would probably be less risky to just keep wiggo in the lead and have froome help him out in the mountains. But still I hope that Froome goes for it in the pyrenees just for excitement.

As Yatesy (God) says it's about playing poker.. For that reason it's Bradley Wiggins. Gone are the days of swashbuckling and Bernard Hinault or what ever his name was ;)
 
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Pricey_sky said:
Perhaps I worded the last sentance wrong, obviously Contador is also a very good in the TT's but I thnk Froome would still take a few seconds off him there and he could stay with him in the mountains. Of course I'm going to say that though as im a Sky fan.

Pricey.. AC doesn't belong in this forum..
 
Pricey_sky said:
Perhaps I worded the last sentance wrong, obviously Contador is also a very good in the TT's but I thnk Froome would still take a few seconds off him there and he could stay with him in the mountains. Of course I'm going to say that though as im a Sky fan.

Noone can stay with Contador in the mountians when he is in top shape.Froome can perhaps shake of Nibali on the last km, but that is a whole other world compared to AC or AS for that sake
 
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Parrulo said:
at this rate of you taking every thread into clinic territory as soon as AC's name shows up, you will get yourself some nice vacations on a ban land.

last warning, this also goes to every1 off

As it should be! No more AC in here please..
 
Vino attacks everyone said:
Noone can stay with Contador in the mountians when he is in top shape.Froome can perhaps shake of Nibali on the last km, but that is a whole other world compared to AC or AS for that sake
Guess we'll have to WAIT until they actually race against one another in top shape to find out? Hopefully that will happen during the Vuelta but Froomey might be a bit tired.

And yes, Froomey's time will come, right now he's here to help Wiggo who's the leader and better ITTer and that's what he signed up for last September. Besides I would still like him to explain why he stopped leading Wiggo when Nibali attacked for the second time and the came back out of nowhere. There might be a good reason but again, the last time we saw something like that happen was Riis on Hautacam in 1996. I'm surprised no journalist asked him...
 
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blackcat said:
I think there would be a simple case to be made, if he is forced to ride for Wiggins, and forgoing his own just desert. He may have a sport contract. But Brailsford and Sky cant force him to work next year for wiggins, and not fulfill his potential for a market salary.

2nd at Tour. 1million US. 1st at Tour, 1 million GBP.

If they worked for Frrome in Vuelta in 11, he wins. He could have a Vuelta and a TdF on his nightstand, and a contract starting at 1mill GBP per, for 4 years. As is, he is getting half that.

Frroomie and his management, have got some thinking to do.

Ever hear the expression "a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush". It means, It is preferable to have a small but certain advantage than a mere potential of a greater one.

Why would you when you have the Yellow Jersey, possibly throw it away so that you may get it again with someone else. By doing so you loose the optimal position of having the Yellow Jersey and second place. So that if the yellow jersey cracks or crashes you still have the yellow jersey. By your OWN team attacking/exposing the yellow jersey, you gain nothing; in fact your worse off.
 
maxmartin said:
I like F more than W, but it was still low move from F. What's the purpose of that attack? If you kept riding, ignored the orders from the ear piece to take things into his own hand I will just have utmost respect for his gutsy move.

Apparently he din't, he slowed down. According to Frank, W was yelling slow down at some point, so F knew W was in some difficulty at that period of time.

So what is the real purpose? I can think of two, 1. he gambled on no orders would come from DS, in that case he can just ride away. 2. that obviously did not happen, but he still played the image that he was a team player that he took orders without questioned asked, more importantly at the same time he tested the media reactions to his move, tons of media actually backed his back by saying he is the strongest and the strongest should win. My conclusion that actually is a calculated and very successful move. He might do something in the pyrenees, let's wait and see.

He's relatively young, inexperienced and strong as hell. He had hit a bit of a wall, had to recover and once he did he was ready to go again. Unfortunately, Wiggins wasn't, having just put his nose in the wind for the first time all stage. I wonder what would've happened if Nibali had waited till that moment to mount his second attack? I think Wiggins would've been in a bit of trouble. Nevertheless I don't think Froome had any ill intent towards Wiggins with his attack. He just didn't realize that Wiggins would be put into the red by his action. I doubt he would go against team orders intentionally for his own personal gain. He doesn't seem the type to want to deal with the consequences should he put his teammate in a world of hurt by dropping him and then have to face Wiggins potty mouth afterwards.:D
 
maxmartin said:
I like F more than W, but it was still low move from F. What's the purpose of that attack? If you kept riding, ignored the orders from the ear piece to take things into his own hand I will just have utmost respect for his gutsy move.

Apparently he din't, he slowed down. According to Frank, W was yelling slow down at some point, so F knew W was in some difficulty at that period of time.

So what is the real purpose? I can think of two, 1. he gambled on no orders would come from DS, in that case he can just ride away. 2. that obviously did not happen, but he still played the image that he was a team player that he took orders without questioned asked, more importantly at the same time he tested the media reactions to his move, tons of media actually backed his back by saying he is the strongest and the strongest should win. My conclusion that actually is a calculated and very successful move. He might do something in the pyrenees, let's wait and see.

^this...add the Twitter messages of his GF (which totally annoy me, because it's close to being soap opera stuff there) and you got the perfect picture. I think it's all planned.
 
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webvan said:
Yes a good read, looks like he's counting on full team support next year if the TDF has more climbing...he'll need to be better than Wiggo on the ITT for that and winning the Vuelta would help too.

He won't need to be better at the itt if ASO goes mtf crazy to celebrate the 100th tour next year. The Eurosport 'analysis' of the article today was frankly embarrassing in its wilful ignorance and sensationalism.
 
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maxmartin said:
I like F more than W, but it was still low move from F. What's the purpose of that attack? If you kept riding, ignored the orders from the ear piece to take things into his own hand I will just have utmost respect for his gutsy move.

Apparently he din't, he slowed down. According to Frank, W was yelling slow down at some point, so F knew W was in some difficulty at that period of time.

So what is the real purpose? I can think of two, 1. he gambled on no orders would come from DS, in that case he can just ride away. 2. that obviously did not happen, but he still played the image that he was a team player that he took orders without questioned asked, more importantly at the same time he tested the media reactions to his move, tons of media actually backed his back by saying he is the strongest and the strongest should win. My conclusion that actually is a calculated and very successful move. He might do something in the pyrenees, let's wait and see.

Today's L'Equipe confirmed my suspicion. Froom might be soft spoken and nice person. But he is also extremely intelligent and calculated from my observation and timing for that unexpected attack and this full page interview is just perfect. :eek:
 
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maxmartin said:
Today's L'Equipe confirmed my suspicion. Froom might be soft spoken and nice person. But he is also extremely intelligent and calculated from my observation and timing for that unexpected attack and this full page interview is just perfect. :eek:

Agreed and good for him. Helping Wiggins whilst making sure that he and the team have the best crack at the top step if Wiggins has a jour sans this week.
 
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maxmartin said:
Today's L'Equipe confirmed my suspicion. Froom might be soft spoken and nice person. But he is also extremely intelligent and calculated from my observation and timing for that unexpected attack and this full page interview is just perfect. :eek:

More intelligent than you apparently. It's Froome:rolleyes: