Yet still,
if a guiding light
no longer resides
in “being right”
I don’t see it hid among
this simply
not being wrong.
if a guiding light
no longer resides
in “being right”
I don’t see it hid among
this simply
not being wrong.
Wiggo's Package said:Simple solution, the UCI invokes a new rule, only morally bankrupt team owners/sponsors need apply, the sport's half way there already
Once a full set of dodgy owners/sponsors are aligned with the already dodgy team managers, doctors and riders that perfect synchronicity will streamline the business model
Dodgy sponsors target marketing campaigns at morally bankrupt fans who lap up dubious products. Rinse and repeat
spetsa said:With WT racing set to begin one short week from now, it is looking less and less likely that we see Froome sitting out any racing for quite some time. I predict he/Sky dominate all lead up races to the Giro and TDF, taking the top two podium places in each. Froome wins the Giro and Tour, racks up another million $'s in post Tour crits and appearances, then recieves a back dated suspension of 6 months from AAF. Froome is stripped of his wins in the lead up races, making the the 2nd place finisher (from Sky) victorious. Froome keeps his GT wins and $. Brailsford claims all was sorted fairly.
brownbobby said:spetsa said:With WT racing set to begin one short week from now, it is looking less and less likely that we see Froome sitting out any racing for quite some time. I predict he/Sky dominate all lead up races to the Giro and TDF, taking the top two podium places in each. Froome wins the Giro and Tour, racks up another million $'s in post Tour crits and appearances, then recieves a back dated suspension of 6 months from AAF. Froome is stripped of his wins in the lead up races, making the the 2nd place finisher (from Sky) victorious. Froome keeps his GT wins and $. Brailsford claims all was sorted fairly.
Whatever happens with this case, I struggle to believe that we see the same Chris Froome this year.
No matter how brazen he may be in public, the whole saga has to be taking a toll on him mentally, and ultimately anything that distracts from you having 100% focus on your goals at the very top level of a sport where preparation is everything is going to negatively impact upon your performance.
Added to this, are Sky going to be slightly (or even massively) more cautious about 'pushing the boundaries' with this rumbling on?
Suspension or no suspension, I think the chances of Froome winning one GT, let alone 2 this year are greatly diminished.
If he does, then from me at least there will be some respect for an incredible show of mental strength if nothing else.
Never stop believing in the power of the Dawg! If he can transform from sandshoe wearing second rate rider then he can seed Comeback 2.0 and be stronger than ever!![]()
honestly, what does a post like this add to this thread?macbindle said:
Rollthedice said:Boogerd is back and he says a few things:
"I've never been a big fan of Froome anyway, I do not think it's an attractive rider, but how I look at it, I'm really surprised how the reactions are, how naively certain media or followers understand this ..."
It's in Dutch, this is just a google translate. This translation is particularly fun:
"There is still crap. And Froome does just that too.
Michael Boogerd about the cycling world"
Here's the original: https://nos.nl/artikel/2209133-boogerd-is-terug-wordt-nog-steeds-gekloot-en-froome-doet-mee.html
But that was funny..Soggy Chamois said:rick james said:honestly, what does a post like this add to this thread?macbindle said:
More than your typical sarcastic "lol" posts
rhubroma said:Alpe73 said:rhubroma said:Cycling seems poised to get bogged down in the morass of another farce, in which the long drawn-out legal proceedings risk allowing Froome to compete in the Giro and Tour, potentially win them, only to have the results invalidated when he is subsequently given a definitive ban. It will be interesting to see how the cycling establishment handles this predicament, for major sponsorship is getting increasingly difficult to come by and without it the sport risks folding (or getting seriously downscaled). It would be supremely ironic if Sky, the beacon of virtue, transparency and ethical conduct, were to become the fulcrum of the sport's precipitous financial decline. Especially given the Murdoch empire till recently behind the British squadra, for which the sport has potentially enticed big money toward its own extinction.
Great stuff, Rhub.
Now you can’t tell me you haven’t done the odd ... “The whole world’s a stage ...” round at the community playhouse.
Am I right? Ha ha! Sure I am, lad.
I don’t suppose you have a fecking clue about pro sport ... but who gives a feck, anyway?
Drama’s your strong point, lad.
Est modus in rebus, beyond which there can be no justice. Everything else is for the suckers.
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Alpe73 said:rhubroma said:Alpe73 said:rhubroma said:Cycling seems poised to get bogged down in the morass of another farce, in which the long drawn-out legal proceedings risk allowing Froome to compete in the Giro and Tour, potentially win them, only to have the results invalidated when he is subsequently given a definitive ban. It will be interesting to see how the cycling establishment handles this predicament, for major sponsorship is getting increasingly difficult to come by and without it the sport risks folding (or getting seriously downscaled). It would be supremely ironic if Sky, the beacon of virtue, transparency and ethical conduct, were to become the fulcrum of the sport's precipitous financial decline. Especially given the Murdoch empire till recently behind the British squadra, for which the sport has potentially enticed big money toward its own extinction.
Great stuff, Rhub.
Now you can’t tell me you haven’t done the odd ... “The whole world’s a stage ...” round at the community playhouse.
Am I right? Ha ha! Sure I am, lad.
I don’t suppose you have a fecking clue about pro sport ... but who gives a feck, anyway?
Drama’s your strong point, lad.
Est modus in rebus, beyond which there can be no justice. Everything else is for the suckers.
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You could do an Off Broadway/Indie/local playhouse/in your pantry rendition of “The 7 Deadly Sins of Sky.” Curtain drops ... Chuck D ... “Fight the Power.” Fear of a Froome Planet.
Alpe d'Huez said:So Froome should then be able to walk away comfortably knowing in all honesty that he's clean?
TheSpud said:Alpe d'Huez said:So Froome should then be able to walk away comfortably knowing in all honesty that he's clean?
Only he can answer that one.
Escarabajo said:Do we have to wait for his explanation to confirm that he is a doper?
I don't think so. At least I don't care for his explanation. Well, I want to know what he has to say just to have a good laugh.
macbindle said:Escarabajo said:Do we have to wait for his explanation to confirm that he is a doper?
I don't think so. At least I don't care for his explanation. Well, I want to know what he has to say just to have a good laugh.
In so far as Salbutamol is deemed doping ONLY if no reasonable explanation can be given for an amount in his urine that exceeds what is permitted. He hasn't presented an explanation yet. It's not confirmed, at least in the eyes of sports rules.
Actually, I don't care about his explanation either. For me a ban for Salbutamol or no ban won't satiate my curiosity. For me its a huge unintended red-herring. Ive no idea how he came to have so much in his body, but I strongly believe that it does not explain his performance.
I think there is something else. That 'something else' might even be something yet to be even on the anti-doping radar.
Wouldn't that be ironic if so? Taking next level super dope, but banned for a blue inhaler.
macbindle said:It's not quite the end of the story. The end of the story is when his attempt to explain the high concentration of Salbutamol in his urine is either accepted or rejected. Then, and only then, will he be a confirmed doper. Or not.
red_flanders said:macbindle said:It's not quite the end of the story. The end of the story is when his attempt to explain the high concentration of Salbutamol in his urine is either accepted or rejected. Then, and only then, will he be a confirmed doper. Or not.
Nonsense. There is no legitimate explanation for this, no matter what legal and administrative machinations happen. If the values are confirmed, and they have been, he is a doper. No matter what cover-up might happen afterwards.
macbindle said:red_flanders said:macbindle said:It's not quite the end of the story. The end of the story is when his attempt to explain the high concentration of Salbutamol in his urine is either accepted or rejected. Then, and only then, will he be a confirmed doper. Or not.
Nonsense. There is no legitimate explanation for this, no matter what legal and administrative machinations happen. If the values are confirmed, and they have been, he is a doper. No matter what cover-up might happen afterwards.
The fact that Froome is neither yet suspended nor yet banned is quite surprising for somebody with a status of 'confirmed doper'. Or maybe its just that you are mistaken.
Either way, we'll have to agree to disagree on this point. I don't doubt that very soon he will have the status to which you ascribe him.
macbindle said:Escarabajo said:Do we have to wait for his explanation to confirm that he is a doper?
I don't think so. At least I don't care for his explanation. Well, I want to know what he has to say just to have a good laugh.
In so far as Salbutamol is deemed doping ONLY if no reasonable explanation can be given for an amount in his urine that exceeds what is permitted. He hasn't presented an explanation yet. It's not confirmed, at least in the eyes of sports rules.
Actually, I don't care about his explanation either. For me a ban for Salbutamol or no ban won't satiate my curiosity. For me its a huge unintended red-herring. Ive no idea how he came to have so much in his body, but I strongly believe that it does not explain his performance.
I think there is something else. That 'something else' might even be something yet to be even on the anti-doping radar.
Wouldn't that be ironic if so? Taking next level super dope, but banned for a blue inhaler.