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Robert5091 said:
MartinGT said:
https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/1057974572279087106

Hope he doesnt have any issue like his old pal Sergio
So he's going to Colombia to ....? Meet Rigoberto? Stay at altitude until July? :D

Edit- see he's off to the US to meet some buddies -
https://www.bestbuddieschallenge.org/miami/event-overview/
Join cycling legends Chris Froome, George Hincapie, and Christian Vande Velde on Friday, November 16, 2018!
I think you missed who are really the BESTBUDDIES.....
 
I was n't knocking the charity ("The IDD community that Best Buddies serves includes, but is not limited to, people with Down Syndrome, Autism, Fragile X, Williams Syndrome, Cerebral Palsy, traumatic brain injury and other undiagnosed disabilities.") just surprised by Froome's riding "buddies".
 
So.....

The Magic Kenyan wants another 5 years of racing........ is it a warning to "G" & Benal? :D
or is it too much greed? See- I laughed at some folks here commenting that Froome is (((fading))) when in reality he's actually getting much more stronger, based on his back-to-back GT winning & performances over the last 2 years - yes- his explosiveness has diminished, but when a rider pulls a "nuclear Giro" and "pretends" to be tired at the Tour to keep appearances after his AAF debacle, then anything is possible.....

I truly feel bad for G, but specially for Bernal- whose ambitions will be plundered to shape him as a mere "super domestique" for the next five years of his contract.........
 
hfer07 said:
So.....

The Magic Kenyan wants another 5 years of racing........ is it a warning to "G" & Benal? :D
or is it too much greed? See- I laughed at some folks here commenting that Froome is (((fading))) when in reality he's actually getting much more stronger, based on his back-to-back GT winning & performances over the last 2 years - yes- his explosiveness has diminished, but when a rider pulls a "nuclear Giro" and "pretends" to be tired at the Tour to keep appearances after his AAF debacle, then anything is possible.....

I truly feel bad for G, but specially for Bernal- whose ambitions will be plundered to shape him as a mere "super domestique" for the next five years of his contract.........
G should have known and should have gone elsewhere as he's had that chance more than once now. Bernal I do feel bad for because he'll never have a chance. Although, I've questioned rather he'd actually ever get a real chance at Sky to begin with.
 
hfer07 said:
So.....

The Magic Kenyan wants another 5 years of racing........ is it a warning to "G" & Benal? :D
or is it too much greed? See- I laughed at some folks here commenting that Froome is (((fading))) when in reality he's actually getting much more stronger, based on his back-to-back GT winning & performances over the last 2 years - yes- his explosiveness has diminished, but when a rider pulls a "nuclear Giro" and "pretends" to be tired at the Tour to keep appearances after his AAF debacle, then anything is possible.....

I truly feel bad for G, but specially for Bernal- whose ambitions will be plundered to shape him as a mere "super domestique" for the next five years of his contract.........
"Pretends to be tired at the Tour""

Seriously :confused:

I suppose it is the off season so I can kind of understand why you'd be tempted to just make sh#t up for the sake of debate. :rolleyes:
 
Sounds like Bernal will be given leadership along with Thomas at Giro and then Thomas will be given leadership with Froome at Tour with support from Bernal according to Portal. The randomness of injury and illness etc could see that plan completely on its head of course, but Bernal Moscon are chasing hard on the heals of Froome & Thomas. Paulo Bettini and Ivan Basso's comments about Moscon being Italy's next GT winner was interesting I thought the other day.
 
In 2013 he was talking about another seven years for the Tour alone:
“I’ve got my goals, and personally where I want my career to go is to target the Tour, not just this year but for the next six or seven years. I am driven by that goal, not from a fame point of view.”
To now be talking about another five years of top level riding - which is not necessarily winning the Tour - isn't that out of whack with his earlier comment.
 
Froome will be 34 next year. In the past 95 years, only Evans has won a TDF having reached that age upon entering it--a Tour decimated by injuries to most of the contenders, and in which the strongest rider was dealing with previously having won the the Giro--and he never won another one. Yet people think Froome is going to kill Bernal's career? Seriously?

I wonder how many people believe Tom Brady, when he says he plans to play till he's 45, or believed (the now apparently retired) Ichiro, who once said he wanted to play till he was 50.
 
Merckx index said:
Froome will be 34 next year. In the past 95 years, only Evans has won a TDF having reached that age upon entering it--a Tour decimated by injuries to most of the contenders, and in which the strongest rider was dealing with previously having won the the Giro--and he never won another one. Yet people think Froome is going to kill Bernal's career? Seriously?

I wonder how many people believe Tom Brady, when he says he plans to play till he's 45, or believed (the now apparently retired) Ichiro, who once said he wanted to play till he was 50.

Totally with you.

Age trumps euphoria and anomaly ... when it comes to GTs. Old guys can rip off the odd stage and 1 day races ... but ain't gonna happen over 21 days.


As Mike says … "Everyone talks tough til they get punched in the face."
 
Is the dropoff that sudden at 34? Froome at 33 just had the best last 12 months of GT performances so far in his entire career didn't he? Evans at 33 hadn't, so no comparison. He will begin to fade, but there should be time for 1 or 2 more Tour De France podiums I would think.
 
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samhocking said:
Is the dropoff that sudden at 34? Froome at 33 just had the best last 12 months of GT performances so far in his entire career didn't he? Evans at 33 hadn't, so no comparison. He will begin to fade, but there should be time for 1 or 2 more Tour De France podiums I would think.
I wouldn't say it's that sudden, but more that a 1% difference is much more significant when you're walking a fine line between thin wins and thin losses than a 2% difference when you're head and shoulders above the rest anyway.

While his results in 2017/2018 have included the best 12 month stretch of his career, I don't think he's at the highest level he's ever been. The only argument for that in my opinion would be Finestre 2019, and I think that stage is more circumstance than anything else, and the Froome of 2013 or PSM 2015 could have easily done that as well.

And there's also a change of guard. The likes of Dumoulin, Roglic and Yates have been closing the gap. I think the time of Tour wins over the likes of Bardet and Uran is over.
 
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Red Rick said:
samhocking said:
Is the dropoff that sudden at 34? Froome at 33 just had the best last 12 months of GT performances so far in his entire career didn't he? Evans at 33 hadn't, so no comparison. He will begin to fade, but there should be time for 1 or 2 more Tour De France podiums I would think.
I wouldn't say it's that sudden, but more that a 1% difference is much more significant when you're walking a fine line between thin wins and thin losses than a 2% difference when you're head and shoulders above the rest anyway.

While his results in 2017/2018 have included the best 12 month stretch of his career, I don't think he's at the highest level he's ever been. The only argument for that in my opinion would be Finestre 2019, and I think that stage is more circumstance than anything else, and the Froome of 2013 or PSM 2015 could have easily done that as well.

And there's also a change of guard. The likes of Dumoulin, Roglic and Yates have been closing the gap. I think the time of Tour wins over the likes of Bardet and Uran is over.
Yep ... all valid and convincing points.
 
A quick hunt for those older than 33 on GC podiums in the last 30 years:

Chris Horner, 2013 Vuelta a España (41 years 327 days)
Lance Armstrong, 2009 Tour de France (37 years 311 days)
Jean-Christophe Peraud, 2014 Tour de France (37 years 66 days)
Joaquím Rodríguez, 2015 Vuelta a España (36 years 124 days)
Cadel Evans, 2013 Giro d'Italia (36 years 101 days)
Alejandro Valverde, 2016 Giro d'Italia (36 years 34 days)
Tony Rominger, 1996 Vuelta a España (35 years 186 days)
Alejandro Valverde, 2015 Tour de France (35 years 92 days)
Marzio Bruseghin, 2008 Giro d'Italia (34 years 351 days)
Ezequiel Mosquera, 2010 Vuelta a España (34 years 304 days)
Levi Leipheimer, 2008 Vuelta a España (34 years 302 days)
Gilberto Simoni, 2006 Giro d'Italia (34 years 276 days)
Cadel Evans, 2011 Tour de France (34 years 160 days)
Alejandro Valverde, 2014 Vuelta a España (34 years 142 days)
Joaquím Rodríguez, 2013 Tour de France (34 years 70 days)
Tony Rominger, 1995 Giro d'Italia (34 years 69 days)
Carlos Sastre, 2009 Giro d'Italia (34 years 39 days)
Pedro Delgado, 1994 Vuelta a España (34 years 30 days)
Marino Lejarreta, 1991 Vuelta a España (34 years 5 days)
Serhiy Honchar, 2004 Giro d'Italia (33 years 331 days)
Eddy Mazzoleni, 2007 Giro d'Italia (33 years 309 days)
Lance Armstrong, 2005 Tour de France (33 years 309 days)
Levi Leipheimer, 2007 Tour de France (33 years 278 days)
Gilberto Simoni, 2005 Giro d'Italia (33 years 277 days)
Piotrs Ugrumovs, 1994 Tour de France (33 years 184 days)
Carlos Sastre, 2008 Vuelta a España (33 years 152 days)
Alejandro Valverde, 2013 Vuelta a España (33 years 143 days)
Joaquím Rodríguez, 2012 Vuelta a España (33 years 120 days)
Carlos Sastre, 2008 Tour de France (33 years 96 days)
Chris Froome, 2018 Tour de France (33 years 70 days)
Tony Rominger, 1994 Vuelta a España (33 years 49 days)
Joaquím Rodríguez, 2012 Giro d'Italia (33 years 15 days)
Chris Froome, 2018 Giro d'Italia (33 years 7 days)
Aleksandr Vinokourov, 2006 Vuelta a España (33 years 1 day)

Winners are bolded. Results stricken are italicized, though Mosquera's has been reinstated.
 
I don't quite get the comparison between Froome and Evans at all-nor the relevance of folks like papi Horner, Vino, Sastre, etc, winning a GT after 34 y.o. because they were not (((multiple))) Tour winners, nor they did have the "super Team" with all ((marginal gains)) to "enhance" their careers as Froome does.

the only rider that Froome's performance was close or -the least- near to challenge, just retired last year & he was not "winning GTs" in such absurd way like Chris did in Il Giro....

IMO Froome will likely win 2 more Tours "the least", barring an accident/injury or a positive.....
 

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