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Community Question: What first drew you to pro cycling?
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Coincidentally and to argue the point, the last time I had or heard a discussion about cycling, that didn't involve - but they all dope, was 2012. It was box hill and the hill was full of extremely patriotic bits who were too invested in wiggins to accept that cycling and doping went together. They did later start to talk about doping when a brit didn't win but vinoukurov did.
Of course the cheer when the commentator mentioned David Millar with 30k to go was deafening. Which made the commentary of vino quite hypocritical.
Anyway I think it will be very hard for you to make the argument that most ppl don't doubt froome and sky. 80%of Danes asked said thye doubted him and that was back in 2013 before the jiffy bag, the failed test and the 3 other tour wins
The last time I saw someone on here offer an argument for why they believe sky, without at least one personal insult or shot at those who dont believe, was probably 2013Knutsen said:
Coincidentally and to argue the point, the last time I had or heard a discussion about cycling, that didn't involve - but they all dope, was 2012. It was box hill and the hill was full of extremely patriotic bits who were too invested in wiggins to accept that cycling and doping went together. They did later start to talk about doping when a brit didn't win but vinoukurov did.
Of course the cheer when the commentator mentioned David Millar with 30k to go was deafening. Which made the commentary of vino quite hypocritical.
Anyway I think it will be very hard for you to make the argument that most ppl don't doubt froome and sky. 80%of Danes asked said thye doubted him and that was back in 2013 before the jiffy bag, the failed test and the 3 other tour wins
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Bold statement...how well do you know him, pretty well I guess to be making statements like that?Pantani Attacks said:
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If his wife is anything to go by, it would take an equal wise and beautiful woman to be married to her.brownbobby said:
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Don't know if this has ever been posted before, but here's a really detailed attempt to determine if Froome doped to win the 2013 TDF (and this is only Part 3 of the analysis):
https://powerful-problem-solving.com/did-chris-froome-dope-to-win-the-2013-tour-de-france-part-3-conclusion/
This guy makes everyone in the Clinic look like a slacker.
https://powerful-problem-solving.com/did-chris-froome-dope-to-win-the-2013-tour-de-france-part-3-conclusion/
This guy makes everyone in the Clinic look like a slacker.
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That's a great stat; right up there with the 8 out of 10 cats who preferred whiskers :lol:
Where did you pull that one out from....80% of Danes?The Hitch said:
That's a great stat; right up there with the 8 out of 10 cats who preferred whiskers :lol:
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On a more serious note, I would postulate, that most Danes find the domination of Sky far fetched. Our beloved commentator/cycling enthusiast Jørgen Leth commented at the beginning of the Tour, that accepting Chris Froome with his akward style and Sky was a necessary and given task. Of course Leth does not mind doping, and is finding it hard to like Froome from an aesthetic point of view only, but anyone (Danes or otherwise) who have witnessed previous dominating teams and riders know what is going on.
This is not only a dominating team with one talented rider, but a dominating team with three different riders able to win the Tour. That is not normal, and the most likely explanation is that they have access to some sort of 'bulletproof' doping regime.
Well, I am one of the 80% of Danes. And if I had a cat, it would prefer Whiskas (danish name)brownbobby said:
On a more serious note, I would postulate, that most Danes find the domination of Sky far fetched. Our beloved commentator/cycling enthusiast Jørgen Leth commented at the beginning of the Tour, that accepting Chris Froome with his akward style and Sky was a necessary and given task. Of course Leth does not mind doping, and is finding it hard to like Froome from an aesthetic point of view only, but anyone (Danes or otherwise) who have witnessed previous dominating teams and riders know what is going on.
This is not only a dominating team with one talented rider, but a dominating team with three different riders able to win the Tour. That is not normal, and the most likely explanation is that they have access to some sort of 'bulletproof' doping regime.
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$$$$
$$$$ahsoe said:Well, I am one of the 80% of Danes. And if I had a cat, it would prefer Whiskas (danish name)brownbobby said:
On a more serious note, I would postulate, that most Danes find the domination of Sky far fetched. Our beloved commentator/cycling enthusiast Jørgen Leth commented at the beginning of the Tour, that accepting Chris Froome with his akward style and Sky was a necessary and given task. Of course Leth does not mind doping, and is finding it hard to like Froome from an aesthetic point of view only, but anyone (Danes or otherwise) who have witnessed previous dominating teams and riders know what is going on.
This is not only a dominating team with one talented rider, but a dominating team with three different riders able to win the Tour. That is not normal, and the most likely explanation is that they have access to some sort of 'bulletproof' doping regime.
Re: $$$$
The last time I saw someone on here offer an argument for why they believe sky, without at least one personal insult or shot at those who dont believe, was probably 2013
Coincidentally and to argue the point, the last time I had or heard a discussion about cycling, that didn't involve - but they all dope, was 2012. It was box hill and the hill was full of extremely patriotic bits who were too invested in wiggins to accept that cycling and doping went together. They did later start to talk about doping when a brit didn't win but vinoukurov did.
Of course the cheer when the commentator mentioned David Millar with 30k to go was deafening. Which made the commentary of vino quite hypocritical.
Anyway I think it will be very hard for you to make the argument that most ppl don't doubt froome and sky. 80%of Danes asked said thye doubted him and that was back in 2013 before the jiffy bag, the failed test and the 3 other tour wins[/quote]
Where did you pull that one out from....80% of Danes?
That's a great stat; right up there with the 8 out of 10 cats who preferred whiskers :lol:[/quote]
Well, I am one of the 80% of Danes. And if I had a cat, it would prefer Whiskas (danish name)
On a more serious note, I would postulate, that most Danes find the domination of Sky far fetched. Our beloved commentator/cycling enthusiast Jørgen Leth commented at the beginning of the Tour, that accepting Chris Froome with his akward style and Sky was a necessary and given task. Of course Leth does not mind doping, and is finding it hard to like Froome from an aesthetic point of view only, but anyone (Danes or otherwise) who have witnessed previous dominating teams and riders know what is going on.
This is not only a dominating team with one talented rider, but a dominating team with three different riders able to win the Tour. That is not normal, and the most likely explanation is that they have access to some sort of 'bulletproof' doping regime.[/quote]
$$$$[/quote]
Que? Please elaborate
You are wrong. You should get out among people and the general cycling fans more. Will do you good.[/quote]TubularBills said:
The last time I saw someone on here offer an argument for why they believe sky, without at least one personal insult or shot at those who dont believe, was probably 2013
Coincidentally and to argue the point, the last time I had or heard a discussion about cycling, that didn't involve - but they all dope, was 2012. It was box hill and the hill was full of extremely patriotic bits who were too invested in wiggins to accept that cycling and doping went together. They did later start to talk about doping when a brit didn't win but vinoukurov did.
Of course the cheer when the commentator mentioned David Millar with 30k to go was deafening. Which made the commentary of vino quite hypocritical.
Anyway I think it will be very hard for you to make the argument that most ppl don't doubt froome and sky. 80%of Danes asked said thye doubted him and that was back in 2013 before the jiffy bag, the failed test and the 3 other tour wins[/quote]
Where did you pull that one out from....80% of Danes?
That's a great stat; right up there with the 8 out of 10 cats who preferred whiskers :lol:[/quote]
Well, I am one of the 80% of Danes. And if I had a cat, it would prefer Whiskas (danish name)
On a more serious note, I would postulate, that most Danes find the domination of Sky far fetched. Our beloved commentator/cycling enthusiast Jørgen Leth commented at the beginning of the Tour, that accepting Chris Froome with his akward style and Sky was a necessary and given task. Of course Leth does not mind doping, and is finding it hard to like Froome from an aesthetic point of view only, but anyone (Danes or otherwise) who have witnessed previous dominating teams and riders know what is going on.
This is not only a dominating team with one talented rider, but a dominating team with three different riders able to win the Tour. That is not normal, and the most likely explanation is that they have access to some sort of 'bulletproof' doping regime.[/quote]
$$$$[/quote]
Que? Please elaborate
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Coincidentally and to argue the point, the last time I had or heard a discussion about cycling, that didn't involve - but they all dope, was 2012. It was box hill and the hill was full of extremely patriotic bits who were too invested in wiggins to accept that cycling and doping went together. They did later start to talk about doping when a brit didn't win but vinoukurov did.
Of course the cheer when the commentator mentioned David Millar with 30k to go was deafening. Which made the commentary of vino quite hypocritical.
Anyway I think it will be very hard for you to make the argument that most ppl don't doubt froome and sky. 80%of Danes asked said thye doubted him and that was back in 2013 before the jiffy bag, the failed test and the 3 other tour wins[/quote]
Where did you pull that one out from....80% of Danes?
That's a great stat; right up there with the 8 out of 10 cats who preferred whiskers :lol:[/quote]
Well, I am one of the 80% of Danes. And if I had a cat, it would prefer Whiskas (danish name)
On a more serious note, I would postulate, that most Danes find the domination of Sky far fetched. Our beloved commentator/cycling enthusiast Jørgen Leth commented at the beginning of the Tour, that accepting Chris Froome with his akward style and Sky was a necessary and given task. Of course Leth does not mind doping, and is finding it hard to like Froome from an aesthetic point of view only, but anyone (Danes or otherwise) who have witnessed previous dominating teams and riders know what is going on.
This is not only a dominating team with one talented rider, but a dominating team with three different riders able to win the Tour. That is not normal, and the most likely explanation is that they have access to some sort of 'bulletproof' doping regime.[/quote]
$$$$[/quote]
Que? Please elaborate[/quote]
Moderators.
The initial quote is not mine. Though attributed as such.
I would hope that libel results in a lifetime ban?
The last time I saw someone on here offer an argument for why they believe sky, without at least one personal insult or shot at those who dont believe, was probably 2013ahsoe said:
Coincidentally and to argue the point, the last time I had or heard a discussion about cycling, that didn't involve - but they all dope, was 2012. It was box hill and the hill was full of extremely patriotic bits who were too invested in wiggins to accept that cycling and doping went together. They did later start to talk about doping when a brit didn't win but vinoukurov did.
Of course the cheer when the commentator mentioned David Millar with 30k to go was deafening. Which made the commentary of vino quite hypocritical.
Anyway I think it will be very hard for you to make the argument that most ppl don't doubt froome and sky. 80%of Danes asked said thye doubted him and that was back in 2013 before the jiffy bag, the failed test and the 3 other tour wins[/quote]
Where did you pull that one out from....80% of Danes?
That's a great stat; right up there with the 8 out of 10 cats who preferred whiskers :lol:[/quote]
Well, I am one of the 80% of Danes. And if I had a cat, it would prefer Whiskas (danish name)
On a more serious note, I would postulate, that most Danes find the domination of Sky far fetched. Our beloved commentator/cycling enthusiast Jørgen Leth commented at the beginning of the Tour, that accepting Chris Froome with his akward style and Sky was a necessary and given task. Of course Leth does not mind doping, and is finding it hard to like Froome from an aesthetic point of view only, but anyone (Danes or otherwise) who have witnessed previous dominating teams and riders know what is going on.
This is not only a dominating team with one talented rider, but a dominating team with three different riders able to win the Tour. That is not normal, and the most likely explanation is that they have access to some sort of 'bulletproof' doping regime.[/quote]
$$$$[/quote]
Que? Please elaborate
[/quote]Moderators.
The initial quote is not mine. Though attributed as such.
I would hope that libel results in a lifetime ban?
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And this was written in 2013. It doesn't even factor in his or Team Sky's results after that, the Jiffy Bag case, the TUE scandals, the salbutamol positive or any other dirty laundry that has surfaced since then.Merckx index said:
But all of that will be swept under the rug by the Sky fans that post here, for sure.
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Gee, that is some amaze-balls recovery to go from a stage of 'beginning to fade' (2 stages out of 3) to suddenly bouncing back when there's no one to pace you. Ya ya, there's a bunch of silly excuses why, but that is some priceless recovery going on there.
Off topic:
Hi TubularBills
I tried to send you a PM, but was not able to.
Regarding your request to the moderators on my quoting techniques, I am sorry, if I have offended you in any way. It was certainly not intended, and only due to a technical constraint on this forum on the number of embedded quotes the posts can contain.
If I therefore have quoted you in a clumsy way and changed your original message, I did not mean to, and again, I apologise. I hope we can end this here without the need to involve moderators.
Best regards
On topic:
I still need some elaboration on your '$$$$' post in order to respond with a proper answer.
Hi TubularBills
I tried to send you a PM, but was not able to.
Regarding your request to the moderators on my quoting techniques, I am sorry, if I have offended you in any way. It was certainly not intended, and only due to a technical constraint on this forum on the number of embedded quotes the posts can contain.
If I therefore have quoted you in a clumsy way and changed your original message, I did not mean to, and again, I apologise. I hope we can end this here without the need to involve moderators.
Best regards
On topic:
I still need some elaboration on your '$$$$' post in order to respond with a proper answer.
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USADA head Travis Tygart says Froome's salbutamol case is a blow to WADA's credibility:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/44924435
https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/44924435
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the weirdest thing about Froome is, that sometimes he is clearly going worse and worse, and then suddenly the next day he is good again.
This time trial is another example. He was running on fumes the last mountain stage, and suddenly he almost beats the world ITT champion. I cannot place this.
Same as with the Giro he was going worse and worse after his fall, and then the last week he was flying
This time trial is another example. He was running on fumes the last mountain stage, and suddenly he almost beats the world ITT champion. I cannot place this.
Same as with the Giro he was going worse and worse after his fall, and then the last week he was flying
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Yup, this is one of the areas where I would love it if the curtain were fully pulled up. It's not like he was having a bad day. Sliding on Wednesday, Thursday was flat so who knows, Friday still sliding, so not recovered on Thursday - this is digging a bit of a whole. It would be one thing to have a great TT and come in 3-6th. That'd still be pushing it. But basically on par with winning it? WTF?Dekker_Tifosi said:
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