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AICA ribonucleotide said:
I was taking the **** tbh. Aigle is the home of the UCI.
The UCI brought in Team Sky for a private meeting before last year's Tour de France.

There's every chance considering his performances that Froome is on GW1516 which not too many other people would touch.
Ok, but according to Boulder Report last week:

Anti-doping authorities [now] have a test for GW1516, which is relatively easy to find in urine with existing testing procedures, as it’s not a naturally occurring substance in the body. What’s more, clinical research shows that the drug is detectable as long as 40 days after a single dose.

AICAR, by contrast, is considerably harder to test for. Unlike GW1516, AICAR is naturally produced in the body, making it more difficult to detect any of the artificial form of the substance that might have been added.

But, as The Inner Ring reported, the WADA Accredited Cologne laboratory — the lab that detected GW1516 in Kaykov’s sample — “has now perfected an AICAR test”. Not only that but research published in 2010 has established the baseline values for naturally occuring AICAR in elite athletes.
 

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AICA ribonucleotide said:
I was taking the **** tbh. Aigle is the home of the UCI.
The UCI brought in Team Sky for a private meeting before last year's Tour de France.

There's every chance considering his performances that Froome is on GW1516 which not too many other people would touch.
I think hes on AYHGD83201938 new superdrug

Im sure about it

You wont find anything google-ing it, its new and super secret.

As a side note

In 2013 New Scientist reported that "tests on rats showed that at all doses, the drug rapidly causes cancers in a multitude of organs, including the liver, bladder, stomach, skin, thyroid, tongue, testes, ovaries and womb

I'm sure Froome is on that.

Seriously, the amount of stupidity is beyond any words.
 
Moose McKnuckles said:
Yeah, go, Froome. And take your fanboys with you.
Brailsford told VeloNews that he saw a “diamond in the rough” in his first glimpse of Froome during the elite men’s time trial in Melbourne, Australia.

“He didn’t have the best equipment. I watched his time trial; this was a guy from nowhere, he did this phenomenal performance,” Brailsford told VeloNews. “I was like, ‘bloody hell, who is this guy?’ That was the first time I ever saw him.”

Brailsford clearly saw something that no one else did that day.

The winner on the 40-kilometer course was U.S.-based Australian Nathan O’Neill, with compatriot Ben Day second. Canadian Svein Tuft was seventh, at 2:32, and England’s Steve Cummings was 14th, at 3:33. Froome, riding for Kenya, was 17th, a distant 5:20 off the winning pace and roughly 10 kph slower than his blistering ride in Mont Saint Michel on Wednesday.

What did Brailsford see that so enthralled him with the then-unknown rider?

“The performance he did, on the equipment he was on, that takes some doing. We thought, ‘that guy’s got something, for sure,”‘ Brailsford said. “We always thought he was a bit of a diamond in the rough, who had a huge potential.”
“From [the Commonwealth Games], we opened lines of communication with him. It went from there,” Brailsford said. “Right from the early days, he was on Barloworld with Geraint and Cummings, so when we started to talk about Team Sky, he was always on the list of riders we wanted to get.”

Since joining Sky in the team’s inaugural 2010 season, Froome has emerged as one of cycling’s most consistent stage racers.

For Brailsford, it all started with that Commonwealth Games back in 2006.

“That really caught our eye, and made us start talking,” he said. “Then we found out he had a British passport, and the rest is history, as they say.”
And as if by magic the Froome "diamond in the rough" articles drop on our doorsteps :rolleyes:

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/news/the-story-of-brailsfords-froome-discovery-dates-back-to-2006_294574
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Especially they don´t do worse than Movistar with Valv-Piti, who up today thinks he never did something wrong. As the whole ****ing team thinks, with all it´s filthy people from the dark era. That alone makes Froome a better winner than him, by far.

Go Froome. :)
Did you loose a boy/girlfriend to a beloved patriot or gringa?
 
Donkey said:
Contador was OK TT, never super-TT, he was only great when there was a climb in the middle and it's OK - Schleck is a climber type with horrible TT and in his best he is a bit better climber than Contador, but Contador is far better TT, it has nothing to do with EPO. I don't want to discuss if he's clean or not. Just that he was never superstar universal rider like LA.

Froome however is another LA :)
Remember Contador' ITT at Annecy 2009? Beating Spartacus in his prime? For me, from then on it was just a question of time when he will be caught.

We just have to wait, Froome's time will come. Until then enjoy the exciting fight for the rest of the podium among ex-dopers presumably clean now, young talents and hopefully future TDF winners after Froome will disappear from cycling.
 
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Cycle Chic said:
Michelle Cound@michellecound6h

Check http://trainingpeaks.com for Chris & other Team Sky riders power files http://www.trainingpeaks.com/av/Z3JDD63H2UVGP77YSXNITPULAE … (they have been there for years)


Michelle Cound@michellecound7h

Froome Trainingpeaks analysis http://www.chris-froome.com/news/7-froome-trainingpeaks-analysis …



It refers to 2011 Vuelta. !!
does make you wonder if he's a TT specialist who learnt to climb or a climber who learnt to TT ;)
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
Yeah, go, Froome. And take your fanboys with you.
When 99% of the clinic agrees and its just a bunch of fanboys left then maybe its time to admit youre wrong Foxxxxy
 
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Rollthedice said:
Remember Contador' ITT at Annecy 2009? Beating Spartacus in his prime? For me, from then on it was just a question of time when he will be caught.

We just have to wait, Froome's time will come. Until then enjoy the exciting fight for the rest of the podium among ex-dopers presumably clean now, young talents and hopefully future TDF winners after Froome will disappear from cycling.
Contador did it with the help of a climb of 5km and a descent afterwards. And it was in the last week of the tour.
 
Benotti69 said:
Well there is the story of the journalists laughing in the pressroom while watching Armstrong 'charging' up Sestriere in 99 and all saying about the Tour De Clean being a joke, till their editors told them this is a great story and to not mention doping.
exactly. armstrong was covered up by the main press, aso and uci because of his story that was of incredible value. i don't see the same thing here, even though the involvement of sky is worrying.

how much is froomie's market value at the moment? enough to jeopardise the credibility of the tour ?
 
same ol' story

thehog said:
If that's clean cycling give me dirty cycling.

Clean cycling is ridiculous!
seems all the same to me

strange tt today............a new order? all contenders were poor except

sagan and froomey

our puppy was excited at the sight of froomey.........i think she loves him

Mark L
 
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Jux1893 said:
EPO started being used in the 90's and the anti-doping test only developed in 2002, so I'm betting in some sort of new drug, probably still in testing.


If for some chance Wiggins would 'out' someone he would also lose his only Tour de France. I really don't care how unpredictable you are, when there is so much to lose.
I get the feeling Wiggins has a conscience, sort of like Landis, JV. In Tyler's book he said Landis was different, restless. He said JV asked a lot of questions but that If anyone would break the ship it would be Landis (surprised LA didn't see that but then he felt indestructible). they better keep Wiggins happy
 
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thehog said:
And as if by magic the Froome "diamond in the rough" articles drop on our doorsteps :rolleyes:

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/news/the-story-of-brailsfords-froome-discovery-dates-back-to-2006_294574
Meh, he's going to win the TdF, of course this blabber shows up.

That's no indication of something sinister.

I'm not even blaming Brailsford, he's just stretching the story a tad. Froome was clearly good enough for the Pro-tour, so he was an acknowledged big talent (otherwise he wouldn't even have made Barloworld).

But cycling is filled with great talents and in the best cases that culminates in the protour contract. Was he domestique level or Superman level? Everyone avoids shedding light on it as obviously nobody thought he would grow that much.
 
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el chava said:
exactly. armstrong was covered up by the main press, aso and uci because of his story that was of incredible value. i don't see the same thing here, even though the involvement of sky is worrying.

how much is froomie's market value at the moment? enough to jeopardise the credibility of the tour ?
its not Froome thats untouchable, its British cycling. The market value is bloody huge. The UCI know they can make billions from the British market, thats what its all about
 

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Would be so nice to have a thread with evidences, to be subscribed to that single thread when something real appears.

Reading tons of imaginary maculature is a waste of time.

Im interested to keep up with doping news but not searching through tons of garbage to find one glimpse of reality.
 
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EnacheV said:
Would be so nice to have a thread with evidences, to be subscribed to that single thread when something real appears.

Reading tons of imaginary maculature is a waste of time.

Im interested to keep up with doping news but not searching through tons of garbage to find one glimpse of reality.
Go away then. No one wants to read your troll posts anyway
 
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Miburo said:
Contador did it with the help of a climb of 5km and a descent afterwards. And it was in the last week of the tour.
And some shelter from the moto... Still recall Spartacus throwing down some choice Piedmontese: "kuu-n-taaj!" as he watched - in disbelief, and disgust.
 
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EnacheV said:
Would be so nice to have a thread with evidences, to be subscribed to that single thread when something real appears.

Reading tons of imaginary maculature is a waste of time.

Im interested to keep up with doping news but not searching through tons of garbage to find one glimpse of reality.

Easy solution don't read the clinic. I also notice you only post in Froome/Sky threads. If you're completely against talk of doping without proof, you'd better start posting in all the other team/riders threads that are here in the clinic.

But I think you're a Sky stooge and are here to post junk/try to derail the Sky related threads, this kind of stuff happened a few years ago in the Armstrong threads.
 
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EnacheV said:
Would be so nice to have a thread with evidences, to be subscribed to that single thread when something real appears.

Reading tons of imaginary maculature is a waste of time.

Im interested to keep up with doping news but not searching through tons of garbage to find one glimpse of reality.
There is still no documented scientific evidence against lance. So if that is what you are waiting for --enjoy the wait. Neither is there any scientific evidence against Basso, but when we saw him win the Giro by 9 minutes we knew he wasn't Capt Superman....at least not naturally
 
jilbiker said:
I get the feeling Wiggins has a conscience, sort of like Landis, JV. In Tyler's book he said Landis was different, restless. He said JV asked a lot of questions but that If anyone would break the ship it would be Landis (surprised LA didn't see that but then he felt indestructible). they better keep Wiggins happy

Are you suggesting Wiggins was erm doping and if they upset him he will spill the beans ? There is no way he would admit to it - too much to lose. He'd more likely go loco drink wise.
 
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Franklin said:
And take this one a step further. Cycling is still plagued by doping, so how is it possible clean Brittain absolutely dominates a field which is not yet clean? How many Merckx's are there in Brittish Cycling?
As a rider who was part of the early stages of the British programmes (and I might flatter myself to say one of the better riders - and my less than pleasant experiences, on a personal level, with them certainly make me biased so take what you want from what I say), I can tell you that I have never seen any extraordinary talents outside of some very specific disciplines. Its interesting to note that the jump in ability / results tends happens post amateur (although this rule has exceptions - I should point out Pete Kennaugh is one of those for the suspicious amongst you - he was always touted from a young age). Make of that what you will - some would argue that this is due to BC's forward thinking approach to development, some might suggest it implies something more sinister.

Also the other factor to consider is that the size of the talent pool in Britain makes the achievement of the riders statistically improbable (although this is perhaps at least reflected in the lack of riders with pro contracts). For note, the riders are more or less drawn from a pool of 20-30 riders since the selection and streamlining takes place quite young.

As to their stance on doping, I can only comment at an earlier stage, where there was significantly more fronting about it that any actual substance of the message filtering through from the coaches and staff. We had to attend a couple of talks more for show than anything and they stopped doing dope testing on junior races 4-5 years ago. Also if you didn't know the U23 squad rides as 100%Me which is Britian's antidoping propaganda organisation, but I always got the impression it was more publicity based than anything (it was at the time when BC were trying to get the cycling public (who were generally more ingrained in cycling than they are now) on board with believing in them), but I can't really comment for sure.
 
Bag of Guts said:
More and more I'm seeing the logic behind Movistar's tactics on Sunday. If I was the rest of the peloton I'd just race as if Froome wasn't there. Froome is so ridiculous he might as well be flat out ignored. Race for 2nd. ASO might give you the win in a couple of years, anyway.

:(
How did that work out for Ulrich?
 

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