Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Bakhjulet]

We have eyes. Froome took it easy. He said so himself in interviews. Even Ricco tweeted sarcastically that Froome won the TT going at 50%.

When did he say he took it easy? Ricco tweeted... well, I guess that settles it?

Btw, if Froome took it easy wouldn't that undermine the refill theory? The spaniards wouldn't have been close if Froome had gone full blast? Or did they refill anyway but it just didn't show?

 

[Frosty]

The food he took from Porte would have had very little impact given how long it takes to digest stuff.

Yeah i was wondering that too. Given he only had 10-15 minutes left would it have been digested before the end? Then again maybe there is some kind of placebo effect where because your brain knows you have eaten food and will be ok in a while?

 

[Deagol]

...
And Porte?

As Froome this year is taking Wiggin's place from lat year, perhaps Porte will take Froome's place from this year next year. Sky could cycle their whole team through the malliot jaune

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

@ammattipyoraily: #TDF, Alpe d'Huez (13.80 km, 8.11 %). Chris Froome ["67 kg]: 40:56.
DrF: 5.84 W/kg, CPL: 5.87 W/kg. BCR: 5.94 W/kg. rst: 5.96 W/kg.



Nice bonking!

An 8.1% gradient would give the final climb at 1120m; maps and multiple Garmin readings suggest 1080m, ie 7.8%. So the quoted w/kg might be around 3% overstated.

 

[the sceptic]

When did he say he took it easy? Ricco tweeted... well, I guess that settles it?

Btw, if Froome took it easy wouldn't that undermine the refill theory? The spaniards wouldn't have been close if Froome had gone full blast? Or did they refill anyway but it just didn't show?

Man how hard is it? Look at the timegaps down to Kwia, TJVG, Mollema, Talansky etc.

 

[skippythepinhead]

So wait

How much harder would Froome have had to ride the TT to put how much time into AC? How much time on balance would he have put into AC had he used his full motor on the TT and maybe had less left for the climb today? What mathematical process guides the decision to "win, but not by too much"? Is it known in advance precisely how AC will fare the next day? Does each team know what drugs and blood bags will be used by all of the competing teams and attempt to plan accordingly? Who has intimate enough knowledge of the DS position to know what they know and how they translate that into a performance plan when deciding to win a stage by 6 seconds rather than 2:06?

Thanks for the enlightenment to all who might lift this veil of darkness from me.

 

[Deagol]

The predictions were out by 3 minutes, or nearly 8%. This proves that the posters making the predictions are either clueless, wind-up-merchants or so lost in their dislike of Froome that they've lost all objectivity.
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This post totaly ignores the fact the Froome bonked

 

[Shardi]

Apart from Quintana, Rodriguez was doing most of the heavy, pace-lfiting work for the duo after Froome got into trouble. Sure he lost 3 sec at the end but rodriguez rode just as strong as quintana. How does his AdH performance compare to other recorded performances?

How does todays performance of rodriguez compared to ventoux and ax-3?
He seems to do very well in the 3rd week.

To not go totally off-topic, how much of froomes problems today was energy-specific, and how much is genuine 3rd week fatigue? Anyone except rodriguez who is actually looking better in the 3rd week and not looking tired? Quintana seems indifferent.

 

[D-Queued]

Froome rides up the Alp without glycogen doing about 5.8 watts/kg. Nice.

He would have had same time or faster than Quintana if he didn't forget to eat.


Does doping increase the size of the fuel tank alongside increasing engine output? Or are dopers more likely to bonk?

Good question. When it comes to bonking, we do know one thing.

We know that cyclists can have miracle recoveries, and that the cure for bonking is JD + Beer.*

Watch out for Froome to knock a couple down tonight and then to solo tomorrow, a la 'Landis.

Time to hitch up the Harley!

Dave.

Edit to add: That, and about 60 water bottles tomorrow.

 

[samerics]

Sky do what is requested, the opinion is that he looks legit, you guys ignore it. Comedy gold.

 

[samerics]

Sky do what is requested, the opinion is that he looks legit, you guys ignore it. Comedy gold. Still, the guy from l'Equipe must be in the pay of Sky! Oh and mustn't forget David Walsh ;-)

 

[H2OUUP2]

Sky do what is requested, the opinion is that he looks legit, you guys ignore it. Comedy gold. Still, the guy from l'Equipe must be in the pay of Sky! Oh and mustn't forget David Walsh ;-)

I don't ignore it. I want to see it (haven't found the numbers yet, anyone got them?), and I want to see the numbers before 2011 before Froome became an Alien. Pretty simple. Obviously Froomes power numbers are all the same from that time frame.

 

[BroDeal]

Looks like Froome went to the William Shatner School of Acting. First sandbagging the ITT. Now this. It is a mockery when a rider is doped so far above the other riders that he has to pretend he is in trouble.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Sky do what is requested, the opinion is that he looks legit, you guys ignore it. Comedy gold. Still, the guy from l'Equipe must be in the pay of Sky! Oh and mustn't forget David Walsh ;-)

Excellent US Postal fan impersonation.

 

[H2OUUP2]

Looks like Froome went to the William Shatner School of Acting. First sandbagging the ITT. Now this. It is a mockery when a rider is doped so far above the other riders that he has to pretend he is in trouble.

He, and Team Sky, are making a mockery of the sport.

 

[H2OUUP2]

Excellent US Postal fan impersonation.

It blows me away every time I hear what people are saying when they defend Froome. It's like we've gone back in time 15 years.

The flux capacitor is fully fueled.

 

[DirtyWorks]

He, and Team Sky, are making a mockery of the sport.

ASO's got to make that 2014 start in Yorkshire pay off big! They are growing cycling viewers!

 

[DirtyWorks]

It blows me away every time I hear what people are saying when they defend Froome. It's like we've gone back in time 15 years.

The flux capacitor is fully fueled.

I gave up posting "What year is this?" because it got so old.

 

[therhodeo]

Sky do what is requested, the opinion is that he looks legit, you guys ignore it. Comedy gold. Still, the guy from l'Equipe must be in the pay of Sky! Oh and mustn't forget David Walsh ;-)

Sky gave him exactly what they wanted him to have and he only commented on that. He gave an objective opinion on well framed information.

 

[Mr. 64%]

Sky do what is requested, the opinion is that he looks legit, you guys ignore it. Comedy gold. Still, the guy from l'Equipe must be in the pay of Sky! Oh and mustn't forget David Walsh ;-)

Dawgie might not be the fastest climber in history - even thou he's not too far from being it! However, he is VERY consistent at a very high level - which obviously leads to some scrutiny!

Personally, i think that even under the biological passport limitations, it would probably be possible to make your values look like they're naturally high - this would especially be of great advantage if Dawg' values actually are the opposite.

Which makes it even more intriguing that the data released goes back untill the '11 Vuelta, thus falling short of being able to convince those who don't believe that his "rise to power" was clean.

 

[samerics]

Looks like Froome went to the William Shatner School of Acting. First sandbagging the ITT. Now this. It is a mockery when a rider is doped so far above the other riders that he has to pretend he is in trouble.

It's like an Alien Abductees convention in here. Cue the Froome is an alien response. Ridiculous.

 

[TheEnoculator]

It blows me away every time I hear what people are saying when they defend Froome. It's like we've gone back in time 15 years.

The flux capacitor is fully fueled.

Remember that unlike Armstrong, Froome never failed a drug test, not even a remotely suspicious sample. So there'll be a lot more Froome supporters than Armstrong had back in the days.

We can only look at what's conceived as ridiculous performance and deduce that Froome is most likely on dope. But Sky would be way above USPS in technologies and a lot more lessons learned. So it's much harder to get concrete dirt on Sky.

Brailsford wasn't so confident in turning over the data for no reason.

 

[H2OUUP2]

It's like an Alien Abductees convention in here. Cue the Froome is an alien response. Ridiculous.

Are you at 88mph yet?

 

[Walkman]

Looks like Froome went to the William Shatner School of Acting. First sandbagging the ITT. Now this. It is a mockery when a rider is doped so far above the other riders that he has to pretend he is in trouble.

Froomes performance is some else, I give you that, but this is ridiculous and even borderline pathetic.

 

[python]

froome has broken a bike racing rule by feeding illegally.

in and of itself, i do not see it as a big deal.

but this bs coming of his mouth irks me hugely, '... if you look at the technicality it was actually Richie Porte who fed from the car not myself. I fed from Richie Porte...'

so a gregario has brokonen a rule with the sole goal of illegally feeding his captain after the captain signaled he was in trouble and it is...the gragario's fault

this type of arrogance whilst talking into the mike when the whole world was watching the illegal move is, yes suggestive of someone capable of cheating and bs-ing in your face.

to me, this was certainly not a connection to doping but an indication of an attitude most arrogant dopers have been guilty of.

froome=-1.