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I can't believe people are so willing to dismiss blatant cheating

HE'S WEARING THE YELLOW JERSEY FFS!!!

And his readiness to say "it wasn't me it was Porte" is a tactic my 8 year old grew out of several years ago

You can argue about the effect of a gel, (in my experience the placebo and stimulant effect from a decent caffeine gel gives a good psychological boost) but more importantly why should we believe a word this guy says?
 
The illegal feed thing is being blown completely out of proportion. That he later said it was technically legal, if said with a straight face, would be a sign of a ******y character, but that's all. Absolutely everyone would have done the same in the same situation.
 
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Whether or not it makes him a shady character is irrelevant. Because everybody can now proclaim that Froome cheated during the 2013 Tour, and nobody can deny that. He broke the rules. That makes him a cheat.
 
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Alphabet said:
Whether or not it makes him a shady character is irrelevant. Because everybody can now proclaim that Froome cheated during the 2013 Tour, and nobody can deny that. He broke the rules. That makes him a cheat.

You don't have to look very hard to find any number of "sticky bottles" or drafting of a different team car, so there are huge numbers of cheats out there.

But so what? All sports have rules that their exponents knowingly break in exchange for a predefined penalty. If the anti-Froome faction are hanging their hats on a break of such a rule then it shows that the Sky doping-related PR strategy is pretty effective. Mind you, Al Capone went down for tax evasion, so maybe the way to get Froome is via something relatively trivial!
 
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People need to move on from this cheating angle. Yes, he broke the rules and got a penalty, cheated.

But you can't read evidence or even an indication of doping from that, it is too far a gap to bridge and it's the sort of thing that gives this place a bad name. It is one of the weakest arguments/indicators of Froome doping that I've seen discussed on here.

There is a myriad of stronger arguments and more startling inconsistencies to the Froome story than this.
 
hrotha said:
The illegal feed thing is being blown completely out of proportion. That he later said it was technically legal, if said with a straight face, would be a sign of a ******y character, but that's all. Absolutely everyone would have done the same in the same situation.
Unlike Froome I blew many a time on a mountain without taking an illegal drink, a tow from a vehicle, or a push from a spectator.
Whatever he took was "Performance Enhancing" without it he could have lost 10 minutes or more.
 
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Berzin said:
Hate to break it to all you grand conspiracy theorists, with your prognostications over new/undetectable drugs, UCI conspiracy with Sky, and whatever else have you, but Froome's attacks on the Ventoux were due to a motor, the same one Cancellara used and that Armstrong allegedly had access to back in 2001.

Yesterday's stage? No motor because some of the bikes were "checked" for UCI complicity of the 6.8 kilogram weight limit.

Bike doping....that's my theory.
 
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Unlike Froome I blew many a time on a mountain without taking an illegal drink, a tow from a vehicle, or a push from a spectator.
Whatever he took was "Performance Enhancing" without it he could have lost 10 minutes or more.

I find it more plausible to assume he didn't blew at all.
 
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Dazed and Confused said:
Froome didn't bonk

too true however a member stated that he did to suppoert data presented

the same member who told me..............'i never make claims'....right!

so froomey is a complete cheat.........let's chuck out everyone who

breaks rules...........holding on to sticky bottles...going back to team car

for mysterious mechanical..holding on / sheltering from the wind...taking

pace from team cars.....following other riders in TTs etc

Mark L
 
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taiwan said:
Can't read the paper. Any chance you could explain why he would overestimate the difference when he has CFs real power files?

Grappe is fitting a simple power function to data that are more complex in nature. Minimizing the sums of squares therefore leads to bias, i.e., the fitted function consistently overestimates power at some durations and underestimates it at others. The delta of 60 W is therefore only a relative measure, to compared to the average delta of 50 W that Grappe has seen in other elite/professional cyclists.
 
ebandit said:

from the Daily Mirror and evry other report
Froome hissed: "It's quite sad that we are sitting here, the day after the biggest victory of my life and quite an historic win, talking about doping.

"Quite frankly, my team-mates and I have trained on volcanoes to get ready for this, spending months away from home and working our a***s off in training, and yet here I am, being accused of being a cheat and a liar, and that's not cool.

"To compare me with Lance is wrong - Lance cheated, but I'm not cheating. End of story.

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Winterfold said:
I can't believe people are so willing to dismiss blatant cheating

HE'S WEARING THE YELLOW JERSEY FFS!!!

And his readiness to say "it wasn't me it was Porte" is a tactic my 8 year old grew out of several years ago

You can argue about the effect of a gel, (in my experience the placebo and stimulant effect from a decent caffeine gel gives a good psychological boost) but more importantly why should we believe a word this guy says?

Can any of the sanctimonious people who have posted about the blatent cheating, hand on heart, say that they have never, ever broken any law?

I've been guilty of speeding, illegal parking, underage drinking, smoking the occassional Jamican Woodbine etc. A list of minor infractions as long as your arm. Does that mean I would commit murder?

Froome knew what he was doing and took the punishment, not like a man granted. He did it on camera in front of millions. Does that mean he is more likely to dope?
 
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Spencer the Half Wit said:
Froome knew what he was doing and took the punishment, not like a man granted. He did it on camera in front of millions. Does that mean he is more likely to dope?

The law says of course not.
 
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Spencer the Half Wit said:
Can any of the sanctimonious people who have posted about the blatent cheating, hand on heart, say that they have never, ever broken any law?
The race officials have it in for him, first he is caught on the Mortirolo where as Cavendish does this hang - on - motor -trick every mountainstage and now this.