Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[happychappy]

Well I always thought this was indicative of his character--certainly not afraid to lie to get what he wanted!

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/...irst-home-cycling-faces-uphill-091543331.html



Impersonate an official to cheat his way into a race. Some role model!

If Contador or "Nibbles" etc had done something similar you people would be getting misty eyed about how 'passionate' they were about their sport.

 

[Alphabet]

No, we wouldn't.

 

[Winterfold]

I can't believe people are so willing to dismiss blatant cheating

HE'S WEARING THE YELLOW JERSEY FFS!!!

And his readiness to say "it wasn't me it was Porte" is a tactic my 8 year old grew out of several years ago

You can argue about the effect of a gel, (in my experience the placebo and stimulant effect from a decent caffeine gel gives a good psychological boost) but more importantly why should we believe a word this guy says?

 

[hrotha]

The illegal feed thing is being blown completely out of proportion. That he later said it was technically legal, if said with a straight face, would be a sign of a ******y character, but that's all. Absolutely everyone would have done the same in the same situation.

 

[enCYCLOpedia]

Do you know what this man is doing today? He seemed quite a promising cyclist three years ago, but I haven't seen him since:

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/imageBank/n/nat_tt_2010_Froome.jpg

 

[Alphabet]

Whether or not it makes him a shady character is irrelevant. Because everybody can now proclaim that Froome cheated during the 2013 Tour, and nobody can deny that. He broke the rules. That makes him a cheat.

 

[42x16ss]

Fixed that for you.

That's a nice collection of circumstances that mean nothing coming from an anonymous forum. Why do you hate the British? Why do you hate Africa? Why do you hate hard working winners?

Nothing to see here.

Why do you love bilharzia? WHY!!!

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Whether or not it makes him a shady character is irrelevant. Because everybody can now proclaim that Froome cheated during the 2013 Tour, and nobody can deny that. He broke the rules. That makes him a cheat.

You don't have to look very hard to find any number of "sticky bottles" or drafting of a different team car, so there are huge numbers of cheats out there.

But so what? All sports have rules that their exponents knowingly break in exchange for a predefined penalty. If the anti-Froome faction are hanging their hats on a break of such a rule then it shows that the Sky doping-related PR strategy is pretty effective. Mind you, Al Capone went down for tax evasion, so maybe the way to get Froome is via something relatively trivial!

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The illegal feed thing is being blown completely out of proportion. That he later said it was technically legal, if said with a straight face, would be a sign of a ******y character, but that's all. Absolutely everyone would have done the same in the same situation.

agree, we are talking pro cyclist here, not monks in a monastery.

 

[bewildered]

People need to move on from this cheating angle. Yes, he broke the rules and got a penalty, cheated.

But you can't read evidence or even an indication of doping from that, it is too far a gap to bridge and it's the sort of thing that gives this place a bad name. It is one of the weakest arguments/indicators of Froome doping that I've seen discussed on here.

There is a myriad of stronger arguments and more startling inconsistencies to the Froome story than this.

 

[zalacain]

The illegal feed thing is being blown completely out of proportion. That he later said it was technically legal, if said with a straight face, would be a sign of a ******y character, but that's all. Absolutely everyone would have done the same in the same situation.

Unlike Froome I blew many a time on a mountain without taking an illegal drink, a tow from a vehicle, or a push from a spectator.
Whatever he took was "Performance Enhancing" without it he could have lost 10 minutes or more.

 

[horsinabout]

Hate to break it to all you grand conspiracy theorists, with your prognostications over new/undetectable drugs, UCI conspiracy with Sky, and whatever else have you, but Froome's attacks on the Ventoux were due to a motor, the same one Cancellara used and that Armstrong allegedly had access to back in 2001.

Yesterday's stage? No motor because some of the bikes were "checked" for UCI complicity of the 6.8 kilogram weight limit.

Bike doping....that's my theory.

 

[Tyrant]

Unlike Froome I blew many a time on a mountain without taking an illegal drink, a tow from a vehicle, or a push from a spectator.
Whatever he took was "Performance Enhancing" without it he could have lost 10 minutes or more.

I find it more plausible to assume he didn't blew at all.

 

[ebandit]

true

Froome didn't bonk

too true however a member stated that he did to suppoert data presented

the same member who told me..............'i never make claims'....right!

so froomey is a complete cheat.........let's chuck out everyone who

breaks rules...........holding on to sticky bottles...going back to team car

for mysterious mechanical..holding on / sheltering from the wind...taking

pace from team cars.....following other riders in TTs etc

Mark L

 

[zalacain]

Fine but only if they say in clear English "I don't cheat"

 

[ebandit]

?

Fine but only if they say in clear English "I don't cheat"

link? don't cheat............... or riding clean

remember.............marginal gains

Mark L

 

[LaFlorecita]

Bike doping....that's my theory. Other prognostication is head changes!

Freaky morphology changes going on there. Very Contadoresque. New thread required, Porte and Froome's head - discuss, showing examples where applicable..

Again the BS about Contador's head.

 

[darwin553]

He cheated with the food yesterday. I am sure thats not the only thing he is cheating with

Once a cheater, always a cheater??

 

[acoggan]

Can't read the paper. Any chance you could explain why he would overestimate the difference when he has CFs real power files?

Grappe is fitting a simple power function to data that are more complex in nature. Minimizing the sums of squares therefore leads to bias, i.e., the fitted function consistently overestimates power at some durations and underestimates it at others. The delta of 60 W is therefore only a relative measure, to compared to the average delta of 50 W that Grappe has seen in other elite/professional cyclists.

 

[ebandit]

fine

Again the BS about Contador's head.

seems a fine head............more handsome than the primary function of keeping his brains in dictates

Mark L

 

[zalacain]

link?

from the Daily Mirror and evry other report
Froome hissed: "It's quite sad that we are sitting here, the day after the biggest victory of my life and quite an historic win, talking about doping.

"Quite frankly, my team-mates and I have trained on volcanoes to get ready for this, spending months away from home and working our a***s off in training, and yet here I am, being accused of being a cheat and a liar, and that's not cool.

"To compare me with Lance is wrong - Lance cheated, but I'm not cheating. End of story.

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[Spencer the Half Wit]

I can't believe people are so willing to dismiss blatant cheating

HE'S WEARING THE YELLOW JERSEY FFS!!!

And his readiness to say "it wasn't me it was Porte" is a tactic my 8 year old grew out of several years ago

You can argue about the effect of a gel, (in my experience the placebo and stimulant effect from a decent caffeine gel gives a good psychological boost) but more importantly why should we believe a word this guy says?

Can any of the sanctimonious people who have posted about the blatent cheating, hand on heart, say that they have never, ever broken any law?

I've been guilty of speeding, illegal parking, underage drinking, smoking the occassional Jamican Woodbine etc. A list of minor infractions as long as your arm. Does that mean I would commit murder?

Froome knew what he was doing and took the punishment, not like a man granted. He did it on camera in front of millions. Does that mean he is more likely to dope?

 

[darwin553]

Froome knew what he was doing and took the punishment, not like a man granted. He did it on camera in front of millions. Does that mean he is more likely to dope?

The law says of course not.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Can any of the sanctimonious people who have posted about the blatent cheating, hand on heart, say that they have never, ever broken any law?

The race officials have it in for him, first he is caught on the Mortirolo where as Cavendish does this hang - on - motor -trick every mountainstage and now this.

 

[thehog]

Do you know what this man is doing today? He seemed quite a promising cyclist three years ago, but I haven't seen him since:

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/imageBank/n/nat_tt_2010_Froome.jpg

Stop it!

That's Froome. Not the Dawg!