Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Ryo Hazuki]

1. All athletes always achieve their potential. The inner engine will be visible in results regardless of background, opportunity and psychology. No exceptions. Only Skybots disagree. - The Clinic 2014

what kind of bs is this. I could give countless examples of riders who never met their full potential.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Sure, a guy built like Indurain climbing like he did was preposterous, but you don't think a spindly guy with technique that looks like a tarantula raising its front legs and ambling forward TTing along with guys built like Cancellara and Martin is similarly suspicious?

Froome's climbing is suspicious in the way that Indurain's TTing was: they're built for it, but the level is just too high to not raise some red flags. Froome's TTing is suspicious in the way that Indurain's climbing was: a guy that looks like that should not be putting down that kind of power in that kind of environ.

froome is 69 kg with 1.86. not so thin as he looks or you think. besides what ridiculous statement to think light guys can't itt or have tremendous power. you clearly know nothing of human fysiology if you think that way.

 

[LaFlorecita]

C'mon Flo, fasted training is not even remotely novel.

That doesn't make it healthy

 

[lllludo]

Wonder how he managed to ride hard enough to increase his power whilst in a fasted state?

Because at the same time he was cured from bilharzia ! Very simple and logical !
In fact he was not totally cured, as a test carried in early 2013, showed his body was still infected by the parasite. But his condition has started to improve in 2011 when his started his treatment in the beginning of 2011 (praziquantel) with a South-african doc.

According to Walsh, Froomey started his treatment in January 2011 and "he rode well in March and April" (best result : 9th in a hilly 11km ITT in Vuelta Castilla but behind Coppel and 2 Colombians, Suarez and Infantino, and 6" better than Quintana and best placed SKY rider in GC of Tour de Romandie -15 - but only 50th in the ITT stage).
Walsh says bilharzia was back for the Tour of California (66th but 22nd in the ITT) and that in Tour de Suisse "his legs turned rubbery in the hills" (47th but best Sky rider in GC, 12th in Crans MTF, 20th in Serfaus MTF and 9th in 32km ITT) so he had to go for a 2nd injection of praziquantel.
Summer 2011: after his 2nd injection 45th in Brixia Tour and 86th in Tour of Poland.
2 weeks after the now famous 2011 Vuelta started !

 

[SundayRider]

Because at the same time he was cured from bilharzia ! Very simple and logical !
In fact he was not totally cured, as a test carried in early 2013, showed his body was still infected by the parasite. But his condition has started to improve in 2011 when his started his treatment in the beginning of 2011 (praziquantel) with a South-african doc.

According to Walsh, Froomey started his treatment in January 2011 and "he rode well in March and April" (best result : 9th in a hilly 11km ITT in Vuelta Castilla but behind Coppel and 2 Colombians, Suarez and Infantino, and 6" better than Quintana and best placed SKY rider in GC of Tour de Romandie -15 - but only 50th in the ITT stage).
Walsh says bilharzia was back for the Tour of California (66th but 22nd in the ITT) and that in Tour de Suisse "his legs turned rubbery in the hills" (47th but best Sky rider in GC, 12th in Crans MTF, 20th in Serfaus MTF and 9th in 32km ITT) so he had to go for a 2nd injection of praziquantel.
Summer 2011: after his 2nd injection 45th in Brixia Tour and 86th in Tour of Poland.
2 weeks after the now famous 2011 Vuelta started !

Thing is I don't recall (duing the Vuelta 11) him shouting about how good it was that he could now ride full gas and was living up to this potential now that the parasite had been treated.

 

[Ventoux Boar]

what kind of bs is this. I could give countless examples of riders who never met their full potential.

I agree with you. But the consensus in The Clinic is that Froome's performances are not credible because when he was 23 he wasn't performing like Quintana.

 

[LaFlorecita]

froome is 69 kg with 1.86. not so thin as he looks or you think. besides what ridiculous statement to think light guys can't itt or have tremendous power. you clearly know nothing of human fysiology if you think that way.

I love how you think you know everything

I agree with you. But the consensus in The Clinic is that Froome's performances are not credible because when he was 23 he wasn't performing like Quintana.

That is not true at all

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I agree with you. But the consensus in The Clinic is that Froome's performances are not credible because when he was 23 he wasn't performing like Quintana.

the clinic is just there to have a good laugh every now to watch guys so far stuck in their own world I doubt they even know their own names or why they watch cycling. best not taken serious

 

[deeno1975]

froome is 69 kg with 1.86. not so thin as he looks or you think. besides what ridiculous statement to think light guys can't itt or have tremendous power. you clearly know nothing of human fysiology if you think that way.

Fromme's BMI based on 69kg (assuming this is correct) and 1.86 is 19.9 which falls into the normal category. I know BMI is not a true indicator of body fat, just an interesting observation.

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmi-m.htm

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Thing is I don't recall (duing the Vuelta 11) him shouting about how good it was that he could now ride full gas and was living up to this potential now that the parasite had been treated.

because he was a nobody helper for wiggins in that vuelta

 

[LaFlorecita]

Fromme's BMI based on 69kg (assuming this is correct) and 1.86 is 19.9 which falls into the normal category. I know BMI is not a true indicator of body fat, just an interesting observation.

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmi-m.htm

BMI: 19.8

BMI: 20.0

BMI: 19.9

Not sure how that works

 

[LaFlorecita]

Fromme's BMI based on 69kg (assuming this is correct) and 1.86 is 19.9 which falls into the normal category. I know BMI is not a true indicator of body fat, just an interesting observation.

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmi-m.htm

19.9 seems way too high for him, considering Nibali has a BMI of 19.8 and Contador a BMI of 20.0.

I don't believe Froome weighs 69kg anyway. More like 64-65.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

19.9 seems way too high for him, considering Nibali has a BMI of 19.8 and Contador a BMI of 20.0.

I don't believe Froome weighs 69kg anyway. More like 64-65.

you can believe all you want he is 69 kg. that came out of his power data as well that he released.

 

[LaFlorecita]

you can believe all you want he is 69 kg. that came out of his power data as well that he released.

As far as I know his weight wasn't made public?

 

[jens_attacks]

only one guy from these photos has 69 kilos:

 

[martinvickers]

As far as I know his weight wasn't made public?

Grappe released info that on key climbing stages, Froomes weight was always with 0.9 kg of 68kg - so 67-69, basically. Assuming he didn't gain weight during a race, a bit more likely he started toward 69, and drew down towards 67, but basically stable...

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jul/18/team-sky-chris-froome-data

 

[Benotti69]

the clinic is just there to have a good laugh every now to watch guys so far stuck in their own world I doubt they even know their own names or why they watch cycling. best not taken serious

yeah you aint fooling no one.

 

[LaFlorecita]

only one guy from these photos has 69 kilos:

You are a legend

 

[LaFlorecita]

Grappe released info that on key climbing stages, Froomes weight was always with 0.9 kg of 68kg - so 67-69, basically. Assuming he didn't gain weight during a race, a bit more likely he started toward 69, and drew down towards 67, but basically stable...

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jul/18/team-sky-chris-froome-data

Now, I don't want to come across as a major sceptic, but I think it's not unlikely Team Sky slightly altered the data.

 

[JRanton]

19.9 seems way too high for him, considering Nibali has a BMI of 19.8 and Contador a BMI of 20.0.

I don't believe Froome weighs 69kg anyway. More like 64-65.

I remember Cound tweeting before the Tour that he was at about 67kg. He's probably around 69kg right now and gradually loses the 2kg between now and the Tour.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Now, I don't want to come across as a major sceptic, but I think it's not unlikely Team Sky slightly altered the data.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I remember Cound tweeting before the Tour that he was at about 67kg. He's probably around 69kg right now and gradually loses the 2kg between now and the Tour.

Thanks for the info

 

[kingsouth]

Although you're jesting, in my opinion the success of both Wiggins and Froome is based on their very low body fat/weight. The question is how do they achieve and maintain this without any apparent drop in power or getting ill.

 

[lllludo]

you can believe all you want he is 69 kg. that came out of his power data as well that he released.

According to David Walsh he was 68kg in september 2011.
No other "official" information about his weight since then.
if you compare pictures from Froome taken in September 2011 and during last year's Tour, he looked thinner in 2013. Probably more non-breakfast rides

 

[jens_attacks]

Grappe released info that on key climbing stages, Froomes weight was always with 0.9 kg of 68kg - so 67-69, basically. Assuming he didn't gain weight during a race, a bit more likely he started toward 69, and drew down towards 67, but basically stable...

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jul/18/team-sky-chris-froome-data

people like grappe, i won't trust them even for simple life situations like "can you please tell me where the rail station is?", forget about some important stuff