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Inquitus said:
Aye, this is the real question needs to be answered, how do you break a femur, spend nigh on 6 weeks off the bike between the Tour and the start of the Vuelta and ride like this? not without some heavy duty doping imo.
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Well, but it wasn't a "break" like setting a bone with screws. I'm not saying he's cleans.

Inquitus said:
It looks alot like Sky might have been clean and now Astana and Saxo are on something......
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No one should be surprised if it is ever discovered Astana has riders doping. Europe's last dictator-state, Khazakhstan is enabling doping to the point the IOC won't grant them a games. http://www.insidethegames.biz/olymp...onference-it-is-serious-about-tackling-doping

That means there's some serious, internationally embarrassing corruption in the nation's athletics programs.


Saxo-Tinko is run by a guy who uses every old UCI excuse to pretend the sport is clean. His first priority is winning, not a clean sport. Now, how does that interact with the UCI and Makarov? No idea. Probably very interesting stuff there.

Froome is definitely off the program that got him a TdF.
 
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Inquitus said:
It looks alot like Sky might have been clean and now Astana and Saxo are on something......
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Yeah, like the seated egg beater attack is totally possible without "the good stuff". Froome did not win 2013 TDF clean, maybe he has scaled back and hence his dip in performance. A no talent before 2011, maybe he will revert back to those days.
 
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Parker said:
You lot did notice that Froome crashed fairly heavily a couple of days ago, didn't you? Do you think that may have effected him? Or is the bleeding obvious once again taking a back seat to half baked theories?
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Even though he says it is not affecting him and he sprinted at the end of that stage. That is fairly bleeding obvious!
 
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deeno1975 said:
Even though he says it is not affecting him and he sprinted at the end of that stage. That is fairly bleeding obvious!
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No, that's due to adrenaline temporarily masking the problem (see also Contador riding on at the Tour). Once that dissipates the injury's effects manifest themselves. And he's not going to tell everyone it's effecting him. He wouldn't have known exactly how much it was anyway. Sky certainly rode as though they knew he was sub-par.
 
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deeno1975 said:
Yeah, like the seated egg beater attack is totally possible without "the good stuff". Froome did not win 2013 TDF clean, maybe he has scaled back and hence his dip in performance. A no talent before 2011, maybe he will revert back to those days.
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No need to take risks anymore for Froome. He's earnt himself a nice retirement fund(I have no idea how much he earns, but I'm guessing it's not WT minimum) no need to risk it and get popped before the contract ends.
 
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Parker said:
No, that's due to adrenaline temporarily masking the problem (see also Contador riding on at the Tour). Once that dissipates the injury's effects manifest themselves. (And he's not going to tell everyone it's effecting him).
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He crashed early in the stage, temporarily masking the problem does not last for hours. Contador abandoned shortly after his crash. Look, Froomes crash is not affecting him, except maybe in your little bubble.
 
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deeno1975 said:
He crashed early in the stage, temporarily masking the problem does not last for hours. Contador abandoned shortly after his crash. Look, Froomes crash is not affecting him, except maybe in your little bubble.
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If it's not effecting him, why did Sky ride in a conservative defensive manner today? When Froome is going well he goes under the 5k banner with only one teammate left and less than a dozen in tow.
 
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Parker said:
If it's not effecting him, why did Sky ride in a conservative defensive manner today? When Froome is going well he goes under the 5k banner with only one teammate left and less than a dozen in tow.
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Defensive manner! Looked like they were setting him up for an attack like they always do. Oh except this time it was defensive. :rolleyes:
 
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deeno1975 said:
Defensive manner! Looked like they were setting him up for an attack like they always do. Oh except this time it was defensive. :rolleyes:
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If they were setting him up for an attack, they would only have had Nieve left with 5k to go. Instead he had three team mates, and Kennaugh had only just dropped off. If you see him with that many at that stage, it's because they have held back on the pace.
 
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Parker said:
You lot did notice that Froome crashed fairly heavily a couple of days ago, didn't you? Do you think that may have effected him? Or is the bleeding obvious once again taking a back seat to half baked theories?
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Id say choosing to believe that wiggins froome and porte suddenly began to out of nowhere ride faster than all the dopers, because they "trained harder" and did warm downs is a good example of the bleeding obvious taking a back seat to half baked theories.
 
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SeriousSam said:
He's definitely not off the program that turned him from pack fodder into a top GC rider.
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He looks like he's on the same programme he was when he first led his team in a grand tour: the vuelta in'12.
Started well enough, but faded when it got serious, and by the end was hanging on for 4th place.
His losses are entirely consistent with being clean (or under orders!)
 
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Parker said:
If they were setting him up for an attack, they would only have had Nieve left with 5k to go. Instead he had three team mates, and Kennaugh had only just dropped off. If you see him with that many at that stage, it's because they have held back on the pace.
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Oh right... Im going with Sky tried to set him up and he was just not good today. You can believe whatever you want.
 
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If they were setting him up for an attack, they would only have had Nieve left with 5k to go. Instead he had three team mates, and Kennaugh had only just dropped off. If you see him with that many at that stage, it's because they have held back on the pace.
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Wut??

Valverde seemingly found it harder to understand the way Team Sky had ridden on the climb, powering up the pace then seeing Froome drift out of the back. “I’m not sure what they were doing, their leader was clearly racing well, but not that well.”
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vuelta-valverde-loses-time-on-the-climb-to-valdelinares
 
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