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[Benotti69]

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Quite a takedown of Jalabert on ITV4 today. Good viewing.

That wouldn't be David Millar who only after 48 hours in a prison admitted his doping and even then only told them about the 3 vials they found. Hypocrites!

 

[bigcog]

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Quite a takedown of Jalabert on ITV4 today. Good viewing.

That wouldn't be David Millar who only after 48 hours in a prison admitted his doping and even then only told them about the 3 vials they found. Hypocrites!

Given Jalabert's past EPO use...

 

[dottigirl]

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Quite a takedown of Jalabert on ITV4 today. Good viewing.

That wouldn't be David Millar who only after 48 hours in a prison admitted his doping and even then only told them about the 3 vials they found. Hypocrites!

Nope, Millar wasn't in the studio. And they did point out the differences between the two.

Rendell doorstepping Jalabert and Jalabert's outright lying was entertaining.
Imlach had a rant then Boardman then calmed it down with some sensible points: "The media expects the riders to be honest and transparent. They should hold themselves to the same high standards."

 

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Jalabert is an idiot, Ras knew how to play it. When challenged (by Team Sky directly, not by the nationalistic pro-Sky media) he just went with the "I never made any specific accusations. My comments can be interpreted how the audience wishes to interpret them" route. Ras isn't an idiot. He knows what's what.

Besides, it's not just Froome that the accusations were about (Ras was talking more about Thomas than Froome, though JaJa was more about Froome). JaJa knows exactly what it takes to turn a flat/hilly rider into a GT contender, because that's what he had to do.

And at the end of the day, while JaJa may be a complete idiot, it's hard not to agree with what he had to say that led to the doorstepping.

 

[gooner]

I don't take any notice of what Jalabert said after his performance previously at the French Senate hearing.

He has some cheek to be throwing stones.

 

[deValtos]

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Quite a takedown of Jalabert on ITV4 today. Good viewing.

Is there a video ? Thanks.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

So a French doping denier calls out an adopted Brit doping denier, and there are special news programs about it in the UK...who would have imagined...

Water seeks its own level. It takes one to know one...I'm sure there are many colloquialisms in many languages about things like this...

 

[wendybnt]

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So a French doping denier calls out an adopted Brit doping denier, and there are special news programs about it in the UK...who would have imagined...

Water seeks its own level. It takes one to know one...I'm sure there are many colloquialisms in many languages about things like this...

I think you should watch the ITV4 interview with Jalabert before you pass judgement. The guy is clearly an idiotic liar.

On a slightly different tack, is anybody else wondering why the French didn't throw p!ss in Jalabert's face when he was doping?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

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On a slightly different tack, is anybody else wondering why the French didn't throw p!ss in Jalabert's face when he was doping?

Same reason the British aren't throwing piss in Froome's face?

You're either not playing with a full deck or are spoiling for polemic?

 

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I don't take any notice of what Jalabert said after his performance previously at the French Senate hearing.

He has some cheek to be throwing stones.

Would have been interesting if they'd gone after Rasmussen as well. I don't think he'd have done such a terrible job of backing down as JaJa, if he'd backed down at all. After all, Pete Kennaugh got up in his face and told him to watch what he writes (all he wrote was that "Track rider Thomas" was pulling "pure climber Quintana" up the mountain with no further comment) because people can read it, and Rasmussen basically said "they can read what they want". Rasmussen doesn't have anything to protect, because he's come clean already.

 

[wendybnt]

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So a French doping denier calls out an adopted Brit doping denier, and there are special news programs about it in the UK...who would have imagined...

Water seeks its own level. It takes one to know one...I'm sure there are many colloquialisms in many languages about things like this...

I think you should watch the ITV4 interview with Jalabert before you pass judgement. The guy is clearly an idiotic liar.

On a slightly different tack, is anybody else wondering why the French didn't throw p!ss in Jalabert's face when he was doping?

Same reason the British aren't throwing piss in Froome's face?

Yup.

 

[Melo]

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Quite a takedown of Jalabert on ITV4 today. Good viewing.

Is there a video ? Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29u-H3xM5rE

Uploaded by "Michelle F." aka Michelle Froome aka Michelle Cound.

 

[Benotti69]

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I don't take any notice of what Jalabert said after his performance previously at the French Senate hearing.

He has some cheek to be throwing stones.

No more than the lying hypocrisy of say Zabel, JV, Armstrong, Ullrich, Pantani, Merckx, Millar, Hincapie, Leipheimer, O'Grady, Voight.............it is a very long long list!

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

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So a French doping denier calls out an adopted Brit doping denier, and there are special news programs about it in the UK...who would have imagined...

Water seeks its own level. It takes one to know one...I'm sure there are many colloquialisms in many languages about things like this...

I think you should watch the ITV4 interview with Jalabert before you pass judgement. The guy is clearly an idiotic liar.

On a slightly different tack, is anybody else wondering why the French didn't throw p!ss in Jalabert's face when he was doping?

Any interview with Brailsford can also be characterized as such...

But again, nobody is surprised that the UK "journalists" are attacking the messenger and not the dodgy performances of Sky riders. Happened the same with US "journalists" and Armstrong. As Lance likes to say, SSDD.

 

[Benotti69]

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Quite a takedown of Jalabert on ITV4 today. Good viewing.

Is there a video ? Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29u-H3xM5rE

Uploaded it by "Michelle F." aka Michelle Froome aka Michelle Cound.

Mrs Froome does so much shytstirring

 

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So a French doping denier calls out an adopted Brit doping denier, and there are special news programs about it in the UK...who would have imagined...

Water seeks its own level. It takes one to know one...I'm sure there are many colloquialisms in many languages about things like this...

I think you should watch the ITV4 interview with Jalabert before you pass judgement. The guy is clearly an idiotic liar.

On a slightly different tack, is anybody else wondering why the French didn't throw p!ss in Jalabert's face when he was doping?

The guy is an idiotic liar, but here they're doing the same character assassination that used to be done on LA doubters. Because he's such an idiotic liar (and incredibly poor at hiding it), he's allowed them to produce a five minute piece that basically makes it look like what he's saying is nonsense, which is what they want to put into the minds of their audience. But what he's saying isn't nonsense.

Also, with the likes of David Walsh's comments about the cycling gods and Cummings' stage win yesterday, and then a piece like this, it's easy to see where an us vs. them storyline is being built (similar to the "jealous French" storyline from the Lance days).

Again, the fans just want to crank up some vintage Who. Is that so wrong?

 

[wendybnt]

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So a French doping denier calls out an adopted Brit doping denier, and there are special news programs about it in the UK...who would have imagined...

Water seeks its own level. It takes one to know one...I'm sure there are many colloquialisms in many languages about things like this...

I think you should watch the ITV4 interview with Jalabert before you pass judgement. The guy is clearly an idiotic liar.

On a slightly different tack, is anybody else wondering why the French didn't throw p!ss in Jalabert's face when he was doping?

Any interview with Brailsford can also be characterized as such...

But again, nobody is surprised that the UK "journalists" are attacking the messenger and not the dodgy performances of Sky riders. Happened the same with US "journalists" and Armstrong. As Lance likes to say, SSDD.

Their 'attack' was pretty reasonable, I think. They repeated Jalabert's words verbatim, and he denied having said it. They then asked him about his own unadmitted doping history and he ran away.

If he had the courage of his convictions then why did he lie? They didn't even get as far as asking him to expand on what he said. He just flat out denied having said it, claiming it was a media exagerration. Do you not see the irony here??

The problem I have with this stuff is that it is part of the creation of a sort of self-perpetuating critical mass. It doesn't tell us anything, but adds to a sort of mob mentality that feeds more of the same.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

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So a French doping denier calls out an adopted Brit doping denier, and there are special news programs about it in the UK...who would have imagined...

Water seeks its own level. It takes one to know one...I'm sure there are many colloquialisms in many languages about things like this...

I think you should watch the ITV4 interview with Jalabert before you pass judgement. The guy is clearly an idiotic liar.

On a slightly different tack, is anybody else wondering why the French didn't throw p!ss in Jalabert's face when he was doping?

Any interview with Brailsford can also be characterized as such...

But again, nobody is surprised that the UK "journalists" are attacking the messenger and not the dodgy performances of Sky riders. Happened the same with US "journalists" and Armstrong. As Lance likes to say, SSDD.

Their 'attack' was pretty reasonable, I think. They repeated Jalabert's words verbatim, and he denied having said it. They then asked him about his own unadmitted doping history and he ran away.

If he had the courage of his convictions then why did he lie? They didn't even get as far as asking him to expand on what he said. He just flat out denied having said it, claiming it was a media exagerration. Do you not see the irony here??

The problem I have with this stuff is that it is part of the creation of a sort of self-perpetuating critical mass. It doesn't tell us anything, but adds to a sort of mob mentality that feeds more of the same.

Your sense of irony seems to be as deficient as most posters of your ilk.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

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So a French doping denier calls out an adopted Brit doping denier, and there are special news programs about it in the UK...who would have imagined...

Water seeks its own level. It takes one to know one...I'm sure there are many colloquialisms in many languages about things like this...

I think you should watch the ITV4 interview with Jalabert before you pass judgement. The guy is clearly an idiotic liar.

On a slightly different tack, is anybody else wondering why the French didn't throw p!ss in Jalabert's face when he was doping?

The guy is an idiotic liar, but here they're doing the same character assassination that used to be done on LA doubters. Because he's such an idiotic liar (and incredibly poor at hiding it), he's allowed them to produce a five minute piece that basically makes it look like what he's saying is nonsense, which is what they want to put into the minds of their audience. But what he's saying isn't nonsense.

Also, with the likes of David Walsh's comments about the cycling gods and Cummings' stage win yesterday, and then a piece like this, it's easy to see where an us vs. them storyline is being built (similar to the "jealous French" storyline from the Lance days).

Again, the fans just want to crank up some vintage Who. Is that so wrong?

Indeed. Great post.

Jalabert is their effigy of anyone who questions Sky, so they burn him and pretend that all like him are just as suspect...

History repeats itself.

 

[wendybnt]

So a French doping denier calls out an adopted Brit doping denier, and there are special news programs about it in the UK...who would have imagined...

Water seeks its own level. It takes one to know one...I'm sure there are many colloquialisms in many languages about things like this...

I think you should watch the ITV4 interview with Jalabert before you pass judgement. The guy is clearly an idiotic liar.

On a slightly different tack, is anybody else wondering why the French didn't throw p!ss in Jalabert's face when he was doping?

Any interview with Brailsford can also be characterized as such...

But again, nobody is surprised that the UK "journalists" are attacking the messenger and not the dodgy performances of Sky riders. Happened the same with US "journalists" and Armstrong. As Lance likes to say, SSDD.

Their 'attack' was pretty reasonable, I think. They repeated Jalabert's words verbatim, and he denied having said it. They then asked him about his own unadmitted doping history and he ran away.

If he had the courage of his convictions then why did he lie? They didn't even get as far as asking him to expand on what he said. He just flat out denied having said it, claiming it was a media exagerration. Do you not see the irony here??

The problem I have with this stuff is that it is part of the creation of a sort of self-perpetuating critical mass. It doesn't tell us anything, but adds to a sort of mob mentality that feeds more of the same.

Your sense of irony seems to be as deficient as most posters of your ilk.

As I suspected. You can't see the irony of a member of the media trying to portray his own words as 'media exagerration'

Besides, you and I are done.

 

[dottigirl]

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Quite a takedown of Jalabert on ITV4 today. Good viewing.

Is there a video ? Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29u-H3xM5rE

Uploaded by "Michelle F." aka Michelle Froome aka Michelle Cound.

I've got a different version recorded on my TiVo. After the interview, it cuts to Imlach then Boardman shortly after, no Prudhomme .

EDIT: I have seen two versions - one is the live one and one is from the highlights show. Worth seeing the live one also.

 

[The Hitch]

Would like to see ITV ask David Millar about his doping history. Ask him to say with a straight face that he deliberately left EPO vials on his book shelf because he felt guilty about doping and wanted to get caught so he could confess.

Didn't go to turn himself in, like people who actually do feel guilty about commiting a crime and want to get caught do. No, he took the maverick way. Bully the accusers, refuse to cooperate, and even when caught hold out until the police make clear they have you by the balls.

Would love to see David Millar's face when confronted with his lies.

 

[wendybnt]

There aren't many winners in this game, The Hitch.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

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As I suspected. You can't see the irony of a member of the media trying to portray his own words as 'media exagerration'

Besides, you and I are done.

I guess you can't read either...I noted the irony...you, not so much...

As for us being "done," how, oh how will I ever sleep if an unoriginal, blind fangirl doesn't like me???...

 

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There aren't many winners in this game, The Hitch.

Millar's a definite winner in the game.

He's got to profit from cheating, he's got to return to the sport, he's got to make money as a pundit, he's got British Cycling to overturn the rules on ex-dopers competing for the UK at the Olympics for him, and he's got to sit on the UCI's anti-doping commission because he has more knowledge of doping than a clean cyclist would.

He's still profiting from his doping today. He is the Bono of cycling - all the good that he does is instantly erased by the disingenuous nature of its being done: to make sure you know David Millar is a good guy. Not one of those nasty dopers like Vino who don't say sorry. Not one of those bad dopers who attack other riders when they see themselves in them like Ras or Frei. A good guy.

Other dopers who've come clean, like Sella or Manzano, haven't got TV deals and a place of favour with the UCI. Millar's still winning.