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AcademyCC said:
I get the impression, could be wrong, you revere Contador (a proven doper) over Froome (possible doper). I mean if Contador was clean as whistle and out this year due to injury i can see why you might say our white knight is returning. Are you saying their all doped lets pick our fav dopers?
Alberto is NOT a PROVEN doper. God this is so annoying. :rolleyes: Why can't people just stick with the facts.

Besides, the guy was only saying that Alberto will destroy Sky. He didn't say he'd rather see Alberto win.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Alberto is NOT a PROVEN doper. God this is so annoying. :rolleyes: Why can't people just stick with the facts.

Besides, the guy was only saying that Alberto will destroy Sky. He didn't say he'd rather see Alberto win.
I was going to respond but then i saw your signature lol. Enjoy
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Ah... Clearly you don't know that even the most subjective people have their objective moments. And believe me I know a LOT about Alberto's case.
Congratulations.. well done. Chris Froome thread - enjoy his return.
 
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thehog said:
Apparently Froome did an extra 5 minutes on the turbo last night during his cool down. That’s why he was the strongest today.
The TV showed him doing his cool down last night. It looked more like a warm up the rate he was going. Maybe he just had some spare energy he needed to get rid of :D
 
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AcademyCC said:
I was going to respond but then i saw your signature lol. Enjoy
But for once I have to agree with the fangirl,

AC is not "Proven" ofc most suspect he is doped to the gills and personaly I have no doubt, but I feel the exact same way about Froome ^^

I really had hoped PC had gone into a era of "not totaly clean" but no team wide doping and 1 team train tour, but I guess they just got their secound golden age...

I for one will not be watching the last stages of the tour, its been one of the most boring tours post USP era.



But guys, you might see me in the tour next year, I've been told I got a Parasite and if I lose it and lose some weight I might become a star ! :D
 
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thehog said:
Apparently Froome did an extra 5 minutes on the turbo last night during his cool down. That’s why he was the strongest today.
Actually Froome told BBC, that the reason he was so good is because the team invented a new training session, its called Sleeping and it appears that if all other teams did it they might be better.
 
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zigmeister said:
In fairness to Froome on his weight loss, his parasite infection would play a big part in that I would assume and treatment.

He clearly is much leaner/lighter that previously.
Not really, Bilharzia makes you pee blood, attacks your kidneys and / or liver and can give you sores and lesions where you really really don't want them.

It's not a convenient weight loss technique or a handy fat burner, and I'm also struggling to see it as a mildly inconvenient wattage reduction, especially when you suffer from it long term as Froome is said to have done.
 
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Dr.Sahl said:
But for once I have to agree with the fangirl,

AC is not "Proven" ofc most suspect he is doped to the gills and personaly I have no doubt, but I feel the exact same way about Froome ^^

I really had hoped PC had gone into a era of "not totaly clean" but no team wide doping and 1 team train tour, but I guess they just got their secound golden age...

I for one will not be watching the last stages of the tour, its been one of the most boring tours post USP era.



But guys, you might see me in the tour next year, I've been told I got a Parasite and if I lose it and lose some weight I might become a star ! :D
Froomes performance has been pretty freakish. I still say on Team Sky as a whole lets see how they deal with questions being asked of them over the next few months before jumping head first into - oh sh!t were back in the dark ages.
 
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burning said:
He needs to get fired somehow I guess, maybe get in a fight and destroy Wiggins? :D
Lots of discussion around Froome changing teams but I really don't see it. Sky put him where he is today and when next year's centenary tour profile gets revealed hopefully the mountains will get their due, and in that case they'll have to think seriously about whether to back Wiggins the TT specialist who 'learned' keep up on the hills, or Froome who is more of a natural climber with pretty good TT skills to boot.

Dope aside I'm interested to see the showdown between AC and Froome.
 
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FrankChickens said:
Not really, Bilharzia makes you pee blood, attacks your kidneys and / or liver and can give you sores and lesions where you really really don't want them.

It's not a convenient weight loss technique or a handy fat burner, and I'm also struggling to see it as a mildly inconvenient wattage reduction, especially when you suffer from it long term as Froome is said to have done.
Actually the Parasite that Froome is infected with is often a chronic illness. It can even be fatal and there is no way that you would be able to perform well in pro sport with the infection (he might not have been top of the pop before)

It also damages organs etc. I have a hard time believing that he had this for a long time!! I also have a hard time believing that Froome was just one of the few lucky to get the parasite removed for good (remember this is often!! most cases chronic!! thats why its so feared)


It kinda reminds me about another story in Pro Cycling, but lets not go there.
 
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AcademyCC said:
Froomes performance has been pretty freakish. I still say on Team Sky as a whole lets see how they deal with questions being asked of them over the next few months before jumping head first into - oh sh!t were back in the dark ages.
Well, its actually sad. Because I like Froome alot also post this freakish performance and he is not as "dislikedable" in personality as wiggins to name another.

But I have lost all respect since they hired GL etc and refused to show us the transparency they promised long ago... it smells to much about team wide doping, but ofc they should have the benefit of the doubt (we can still suspect and discuss ofc!!)

Neither way, they will still be remembered for giving us a boring **** tour, sadly all my British friends are spamming me with

"We are the best!! we bet all in all sport when there is no doping" etc.. I've heard that once before, back then however it was Americans.
 
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Dr.Sahl said:
Actually the Parasite that Froome is infected with is often a chronic illness. It can even be fatal and there is no way that you would be able to perform well in pro sport with the infection (he might not have been top of the pop before)

It also damages organs etc. I have a hard time believing that he had this for a long time!! I also have a hard time believing that Froome was just one of the few lucky to get the parasite removed for good (remember this is often!! most cases chronic!! thats why its so feared)


It kinda reminds me about another story in Pro Cycling, but lets not go there.
Totally, it stinks of a tall story trotted out in a hurry to explain the 2011 Vuelta. I'm kind of hoping they've also convinced Froome he had it and gave him something more athletically beneficial instead of the Bilharzia meds.

Everyone I've spoken to who has met him goes on about what a humble, genuine guy he is, and watching the racing and the interviews I have to say they kind of support that assessment.

Not to be naive about it, we all know that in most cases the culture of the sport and pressure to perform is bigger than individual personalities.
 
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FrankChickens said:
Totally, it stinks of a tall story trotted out in a hurry to explain the 2011 Vuelta. I'm kind of hoping they've also convinced Froome he had it and gave him something more athletically beneficial instead of the Bilharzia meds.

Everyone I've spoken to who has met him goes on about what a humble, genuine guy he is, and watching the racing and the interviews I have to say they kind of support that assessment.

Not to be naive about it, we all know that in most cases the culture of the sport and pressure to perform is bigger than individual personalities.
Well a few friends of mine knows Froom's family IRL, they told me he doped as younger aswell... but well.. thats the reality in many sports..

The only thing that annoys me is when the British claim, that nobody of their stars dope and that they win clean as the "only" ones.
 
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Dr.Sahl said:
Well, its actually sad. Because I like Froome alot also post this freakish performance and he is not as "dislikedable" in personality as wiggins to name another.

But I have lost all respect since they hired GL etc and refused to show us the transparency they promised long ago... it smells to much about team wide doping, but ofc they should have the benefit of the doubt (we can still suspect and discuss ofc!!)

Neither way, they will still be remembered for giving us a boring **** tour, sadly all my British friends are spamming me with

"We are the best!! we bet all in all sport when there is no doping" etc.. I've heard that once before, back then however it was Americans.
Im not sure what sports your friends are talking about, apart from cricket we aint good at too many lol

In a way boring tour sort of supports a clean sky. Suitable course, well put together team, Wiggins strong in TT and hanging in there on mountains, no Contador/Schleck, Cadel off form.Thats why im gonna reserve judgement til they answer the questions on hand. Only strange performance is Froome
 
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Concerning Froome's Bilharzia diagnosis - a lot of people here simply seem to be regurgitating wiki and have become experts on it all of a sudden.
One of the biggest reasons why Bilharzia is so damaging is because like Malaria, most of those infected are from poverty stricken third world countries with little or no access to medical care of any decent standard. Thus the illness hits these populations hard and produced the most damaging symptoms.
What's deadly and debilitating to an African child during a famine isn't going to destroy a person such as Chris Froome by any stretch of the imagination for very very obvious reasons.
Claims by wiki experts that nobody whom has ever contracted the paradise would ever be able to compete at top level is utterly laughable!!
 
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Apollonius said:
Concerning Froome's Bilharzia diagnosis - a lot of people here simply seem to be regurgitating wiki and have become experts on it all of a sudden.
One of the biggest reasons why Bilharzia is so damaging is because like Malaria, most of those infected are from poverty stricken third world countries with little or no access to medical care of any decent standard. Thus the illness hits these populations hard and produced the most damaging symptoms.
What's deadly and debilitating to an African child during a famine isn't going to destroy a person such as Chris Froome by any stretch of the imagination for very very obvious reasons.
Claims by wiki experts that nobody whom has ever contracted the paradise would ever be able to compete at top level is utterly laughable!!
Not sure about that, I knew a guy with Bilharzia here in Cape Town and he wasn't in good shape for a while. It's pretty nasty, and simultaneously odd that, given world-class medical attention, Froome is reported to have been still suffering from it at the beginning of this year, despite them supposedly picking it up when he arrived at Sky, or latest end of 2010.
 

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