Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[JimmyFingers]

Froome does not look like someone who belongs on a bike. Almost alien.

Even for you that's a conspiracy theory too far

 

[Euskaltel!]

So why didn't the guy who came 10th or 8th or 7th improve as much?

Looking at Froome in the 2009 Giro and watching him zig zag up hills its hard to believe that he become a Contador-esque climber.

Yes thats him at right angles behind Gerrans.

Full video at 7:27: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEGpv0xn0E8

You're taking that video WAY out of context. You look at one point and call it proof? Hmm. Watch the full video, watch how Froome goes after the first attacker, does a lot of work on his own on the front and then hits the wall when Gerrans, who has been sitting in the break, attacks. It's exactly what Froome said he needed to work on, being over excited and putting too much work in before the real stuff...

 

[thehog]

You're taking that video WAY out of context. You look at one point and call it proof? Hmm. Watch the full video, watch how Froome goes after the first attacker, does a lot of work on his own on the front and then hits the wall when Gerrans, who has been sitting in the break, attacks. It's exactly what Froome said he needed to work on, being over excited and putting too much work in before the real stuff...

What? 1.5km from the finish line is not real stuff?

Seeing that Froome is the next great Tour champion surely he coiuld beat or come close to Gerrans a lowly one day rider.

Maybe Froome should have ridden with one hand on the handle bar? He goes faster when he does that.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Froome's error on San Luca was trying to read the race, think tactically and ride like a normal cyclist.

Barloworld hadn't unlocked the power of staring at your power meter and ignoring everything else around you, which enables you to ride so fast nobody else can do anything but fall behind.

 

[thehog]

So why didn't the guy who came 10th or 8th or 7th improve as much?

Looking at Froome in the 2009 Giro and watching him zig zag up hills its hard to believe that he become a Contador-esque climber.

Yes thats him at right angles behind Gerrans.

Full video at 7:27: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEGpv0xn0E8

Froome just smashed Contaor in Oman.

Looks like the passport software has a bug!

 

[del1962]

Or maybe they can't get stuff into Oman, so Contador is not the star you beleive in

 

[McLovin]

Full video at 7:27: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEGpv0xn0E8

Yees, I remember that stage. RCS said that there were some nails at some point on the road and riders had to zig-zag. Case closed! Anything else?

 

[the sceptic]

Or maybe they can't get stuff into Oman, so Contador is not the star you beleive in

Youre right. Froome has always been the most talented of the two

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

3 years ago we only knew Froome as an average PCT rider. Not even a good pct rider, and a mediocre (at best) WT rider...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Youre right. Froome has always been the most talented of the two

thank you

+1

 

[BroDeal]

And another example of Froome's "blood disease" coming and going at convenient times. He was supposed to take six months to recover from his last announced relapse.

 

[ebandit]

oh dear

And another example of Froome's "blood disease" coming and going at convenient times. He was supposed to take six months to recover from his last announced relapse.

and if chris was lucky enough to recover more quickly should we expect

him to explain here?

 

[Lanark]

Youre right. Froome has always been the most talented of the two

Obviously not, and Froome is a complete joke, but keep in mind that Contador probably started doping extremely early in his carreer, we have no idea how much talent Contador really has.

 

[the asian]

Obviously not, and Froome is a complete joke, but keep in mind that Contador probably started doping extremely early in his carreer, we have no idea how much talent Contador really has.

6.5 W/KG for 10 minutes at the age of 21 according to Inigo San Millan.
Only rider who did his test to reach 6.5 W/KG.
Don't know whether he was doped for the test though.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Obviously not, and Froome is a complete joke, but keep in mind that Contador probably started doping extremely early in his carreer, we have no idea how much talent Contador really has.

what do you see as "extremely early"? 21? 20? 16?

 

[LaFlorecita]

By the way I am actually not so sure he started doping "extremely early" (whatever that may mean)

 

[Walkman]

By the way I am actually not so sure he started doping "extremely early" (whatever that may mean)

You are not very objective in the matter either.

 

[ebandit]

alberto

By the way I am actually not so sure he started doping "extremely early" (whatever that may mean)

read the alberto thread

 

[The Hitch]

As far as Contador doping young, wasnt it in the op thing that Contador and Lulu were being given a bit of time without dope at a young age to mature ?

The sheet which said - nothing for lulu and then - same as lulu for Contador or some such. Didnt some people interpret it that way?

 

[Walkman]

What? 1.5km from the finish line is not real stuff?

Seeing that Froome is the next great Tour champion surely he coiuld beat or come close to Gerrans a lowly one day rider.

Maybe Froome should have ridden with one hand on the handle bar? He goes faster when he does that.

I don't get why you keep arguing about this. The bolded part is a joke! So what, a GT-rider should always beat any other rider as soon the roads go uphill? Come on man, that a new low, even for you.

When you see Contador bonk he still looks good on a bike. Dope or no dope Contador is a talented cyclist. Whereas Froome as identified in this video looks terrible.

And what is that supposed to say?! That he never has totally bonked. And why could that be? Because massive amount of EPO, blood doping and other substances makes it almost impossible to do to so.

No way you could look at him and think one day he'll be a master climber. It's not so much that he can't hold Gerrans wheel it's just he looks terrible on a bike and looks to be a very poor climber.

This is just pure BS. So you can see who is going to be a great climber and who has no chance?! Wow.That's really cool man.

Thought I agree that his trajectory is indeed not normal and raises a lot of question. I am as suspicious about him as against others.

 

[LaFlorecita]

You are not very objective in the matter either.

Actually I am

As far as Contador doping young, wasnt it in the op thing that Contador and Lulu were being given a bit of time without dope at a young age to mature ?

The sheet which said - nothing for lulu and then - same as lulu for Contador or some such. Didnt some people interpret it that way?

That's what I mean

 

[LaFlorecita]

read the alberto thread

What do you mean?

 

[The Hitch]

I don't get why you keep arguing about this. The bolded part is a joke! So what, a GT-rider should always beat any other rider as soon the roads go uphill? Come on man, that a new low, even for you.



And what is that supposed to say?! That he never has totally bonked. And why could that be? Because massive amount of EPO, blood doping and other substances makes it almost impossible to do to so.



This is just pure BS. So you can see who is going to be a great climber and who has no chance?! Wow.That's really cool man.

Thought I agree that his trajectory is indeed not normal and raises a lot of question. I am as suspicious about him as against others.

Wasnt the last person whos cleanliness you vouched for Frank schleck?

And yes, it is suspicious to see someone who a few years later upon joining a team where everyone mysteriously improvers is 1 of the 2 best gt riders in the world, struggle to at 23 even get up a hill.

You know why? Because once in a generation talents generally do not struggle up hills. Even if they have 7kg extra weight on a hangover and off form, should still not stuggle up hills. Because at their best they are so much better than everyone else that even with those factors thrown in they should still be pretty good.

And the thing is, the example shown was not even Froomes worst performance. It was 1 of his better performances

 

[Walkman]

Wasnt the last person whos cleanliness you vouched for Frank schleck?

I never vouched for Fränk schleck, you know that. Go back and check my posts if you liked. If my memory serves me correct I said something about he would have the benefit of the doubt which not everyone has. Clearly, he no longer has that benefit as he is a convicted doper.

If it was up to me, no doper would be welcome back to the sport unless they would do what Rasmussen and Kohl did. Full confession with names of doctors, teammates and other people who assisted in their doping. Tell everything regarding methods they used and how they manage to avoid detection.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

http://www.cyclingfans.com/node/7033

Early season jitters for Chris. Made everyone else look like old men.