Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Miburo]

Armstrong data is from Armstrong himself. It's 491 or 495 watts. Can't recall which.

maybe armstrong is lying about it? he likes to do that

 

[IndianCyclist]

Why are you so persistently trying to take him down then?

Entertainment, perhaps that's the sole reason he's even started riding, back in Africa. He's gone through lots of personal problems to compete, and even more **** to get a pro contract. Just to give himself and us cycling fans a good show.

It's getting boring though, I'd suggest him to do some serious mountain raids in the Tour. Those Purito-imitations are getting pretty tiring.

Better than TT Wiggins IMHO

 

[LaFlorecita]

are you ok? a rider will dope to beat a fictional record a climb which is not important for anyone?

No, a rider will dope to prepare for the tour

 

[burning]

Armstrong data is from Armstrong himself. It's 491 or 495 watts. Can't recall which.

Do you have information about the profile of the climb?

 

[roundabout]

maybe armstrong is lying about it? he likes to do that

Yes. He did 600 watts, but modestly rounded it down to 491 so as not to be put into mutant category straight away.

It's highly unlikely that Armstrong could do 6.9 w/kg on the Madone and then lose a minute to Vaughters in an uphill TT in the Dauphine a short time later

 

[Miburo]

Yes. He did 600 watts, but modestly rounded it down to 491 so as not to be put into mutant category straight away.

It's highly unlikely that Armstrong could do 6.9 w/kg on the Madone and then lose a minute to Vaughters in an uphill TT in the Dauphine a short time later

maybe he was busy with a bloodbag then.

LA could be telling truth, it's just that someone else had a completely different calculation which also could be wrong of course. I'm just laying out the possibility that LA might be lying.

 

[roundabout]

Do you have information about the profile of the climb?

Here's a strava link

http://www.strava.com/segments/col-de-la-madone-via-menton-2363

 

[Franklin]

No Ferrari......sorry, Leinders does not come close Ferrari
.

Nobody comes close to Ferrari. But that said, name a doctor who managed to get his riders get 4 GT's and stay absolute far away from getting them declared positive?

Take away Lance and who do you get as multi winner? Mencov.

Again, it's very easy to downplay Leinders, but if you look at the cold facts you start to realize he's very, very effective.

 

[roundabout]

I wonder if the fastest time holder is who I think he is

http://www.strava.com/segments/col-de-la-madone-from-1471695

 

[burning]

Here's a strava link

http://www.strava.com/segments/col-de-la-madone-via-menton-2363

It says 500 watts for Lance now, thats fairly accurate in my opinion

 

[Parrulo]

I wonder if the fastest time holder is who I think he is

http://www.strava.com/segments/col-de-la-madone-from-1471695

Demere?

Administrator actively joins Froome hater dome. Where the forum goes to?

Am i not allowed to express my opinion? Same opinion i have been expressing since the 2011 vuelta?

Not like i care about what you think so . . . . whatever

 

[roundabout]

How much for the Dawg?

 

[burning]

How much for the Dawg?

445.6 Watt Gesamtleistung
6.457 Watt pro Kg Körpergewicht
(I added extra numbers after comma, the site only says 6.4)
Thats for 32:00 and 69 kg

 

[roundabout]

Demere?



Am i not allowed to express my opinion? Same opinion i have been expressing since the 2011 vuelta?

Not like i care about what you think so . . . . whatever

Yeah, but then I don't think he lives in Monaco.

 

[Parrulo]

Yeah, but then I don't think he lives in Monaco.

That was the first name that crossed my mind to be honest.

Is a pro sprinter still so much better at climbing than the amateurs?

 

[The Hitch]

Valverde worked his *** off for Costa last year at the tour de suisse and without him Costa would have lost the race. So yes i can imagine him working for someone else/ giving him his bike.

Speaking of movistar riders giving up bikes, I remember there was a heroic gif/ video of El Gorrión giving up his bike for Valverde on a 20% grade, then pushing him and falling over

 

[roundabout]

That was the first name that crossed my mind to be honest.

Is a pro sprinter still so much better at climbing than the amateurs?

It's the first name that crossed my mind as well.

But 6 minutes slower than Froome over a 30 minute climb seems about right for a sprinter going full out.

It's the multiple climbs that kill those guys

 

[Pentacycle]

That was the first name that crossed my mind to be honest.

Is a pro sprinter still so much better at climbing than the amateurs?

Even Cavendish can drop(or at least keep up with) high level amateurs. I thought this was well-known fact. Sprinters require a big engine to be able to deliver their speed after a 150-250 km race, even when they're only wheelsucking.

 

[Pentacycle]

Speaking of movistar riders giving up bikes, I remember there was a heroic gif/ video of El Gorrión giving up his bike for Valverde on a 20% grade, then pushing him and falling over

LBL 2012? On la Redoute.

 

[Parrulo]

Even Cavendish can drop(or at least keep up with) high level amateurs. I thought this was well-known fact. Sprinters require a big engine to be able to deliver their speed after a 150-250 km race, even when they're only wheelsucking.

Do you really need to always post with such a condescending tone?

Its not a matter of dropping/keeping up, its a matter of being almost 2 and a half minutes faster than second fastest guy up the climb. Ofc that could be the result of the second fastest guy being just a normal guy but being this the Madone i am pretty sure a lot of strong amateur climbers like to time themselves up as well.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Haha hilarious.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Does anyone else find it amusing that a thread entitles Froome Talk Only has so little in it relating to Chris Froome?

 

[Pentacycle]

Do you really need to always post with such a condescending tone?

Its not a matter of dropping/keeping up, its a matter of being almost 2 and a half minutes faster than second fastest guy up the climb. Ofc that could be the result of the second fastest guy being just a normal guy but being this the Madone i am pretty sure a lot of strong amateur climbers like to time themselves up as well.

Sorry about the tone.

A rider either has an engine and he can become a pro, or he stays an amateur. That's why you see climber type riders in Belgium or Holland still win flat races, or you see Greipel win the climbing competition at the German juniors. They're just three classes above the rest. Of course I agree that some climber-type amateurs who had pro ambitions should be able to do better than a sprinter. It's very hard to find the time to do that though, and it's not like everyone's on Strava.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Do you really need to always post with such a condescending tone?

Its not a matter of dropping/keeping up, its a matter of being almost 2 and a half minutes faster than second fastest guy up the climb. Ofc that could be the result of the second fastest guy being just a normal guy but being this the Madone i am pretty sure a lot of strong amateur climbers like to time themselves up as well.

lol

10 char

 

[thehog]

445.6 Watt Gesamtleistung
6.457 Watt pro Kg Körpergewicht
(I added extra numbers after comma, the site only says 6.4)
Thats for 32:00 and 69 kg

Mutant status has been achieved.

The Dawg is awarded the official mutant medal from the Clinic.