Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[BroDeal]

Do yu think there will be the same thought of disgraceful treatment towards him from the fans in the US as those on the Alpe and Semnoz towards Chris and his team?

Hopefully yes. The sport needs the fans to reject the farce the UCI, Armstrong, and Froome have turned it into. The fans should not pretend obvious dopers are are not dopers.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Hopefully yes. The sport needs the fans to reject the farce the UCI, Armstrong, and Froome have turned it into. The fans should not pretend obvious dopers are are not dopers.

The sport actually needs fans to stop watching. A million people abusing Froome on the road to Alpe D'Huez is still a million people and the cash keeps rolling in. Bare roadsides and no TV viewers would be a more compelling statement as it would affect the bottom line, which is the only thing that counts to the "suits".

 

[del1962]

Hopefully yes. The sport needs the fans to reject the farce the UCI, Armstrong, and Froome have turned it into. The fans should not pretend obvious dopers are are not dopers.

I hope that Americans might be a bit better behaved, not squirting fluids in Sky riders faces, attacking team staff etc, I used to think our (English) football hooligans where bad back in the eighties, but these guys are giving them a run for their money.

Chris has been incredibly dignified in response to this and the incessent insinuations from some journalists, a lesser man would have punched them in the face.

 

[Taxus4a]

I've never said it doesn't, as long as it's consistent performance above what is humanly possible, not isolated events.


Are you allowed to mention doping in here? I would assume not.

It is humanly possible to ride quite stronger than Froome nowadays. But now he is the best so far.

Why you said it is not possible? he performed slower than in the dark era.

 

[Taxus4a]

If Froome's so popular with the British public why didn't parade himself at last weekend's London Surrey Classic?

Contador did a big public ride in Italy up the Gavia:
http://www.gazzetta.it/Foto-Gallery...sieme-contador-2500-gavia-20897568907.shtml#0

Why's Froome so far from his public?

Everybody in Spain is critizing Contador for that, he got % millions a year and he dont ride the Vuelta, but yes ciclotourist things...and the ad he did for Flex is been very criticized in Spain for supporters.

Some strong supporters in Spain are leaving him.

Froome has just won his first Tour, and he is nota british born, but he is an idol in kenya and South Africa, and all the people know him love him

 

[King Boonen]

It is humanly possible to ride quite stronger than Froome nowadays. But now he is the best so far.

Why you said it is not possible? he performed slower than in the dark era.

I'm sorry, I don't understand.

 

[LaFlorecita]

It is humanly possible to ride quite stronger than Froome nowadays. But now he is the best so far.

Why you said it is not possible? he performed slower than in the dark era.

Everybody in Spain is critizing Contador for that, he got % millions a year and he dont ride the Vuelta, but yes ciclotourist things...and the ad he did for Flex is been very criticized in Spain for supporters.

Some strong supporters in Spain are leaving him.

Froome has just won his first Tour, and he is nota british born, but he is an idol in kenya and South Africa, and all the people know him love him

That is not true

 

[EnacheV]

That is not true

there were 5 statements

which are not true?

also, amazed you survived without the daily **** dose of this forum

and a note for mods, if you ever suspend me again for trolling where 110% of this forum is trolling im gonna send some notices to your higher ups.

 

[LaFlorecita]

there were 5 statements

which are not true?

also, amazed you survived without the daily **** dose of this forum

and a note for mods, if you ever suspend me again for trolling where 110% of this forum is trolling im gonna send some notices to your higher ups.

All of the statements had a certain % of BS in them

 

[darwin553]

I agree it is humanly possible to ride stronger than what riders were doing in the 80s, 90s and even 2000s. The advancements in nutrition and training programs tell me this. Also, I would say that almost all sporting competitions have seen an increase in performance both in power and in stamina.

 

[BroDeal]

I agree it is humanly possible to ride stronger than what riders were doing in the 80s, 90s and even 2000s. The advancements in nutrition and training programs tell me this. Also, I would say that almost all sporting competitions have seen an increase in performance both in power and in stamina.

That is some advancement in three years. Funny how none of the other riders have benefitted from this revolutionary leap.

 

[oldcrank]

Everybody in Spain is critizing Contador for that, he got % millions a year and he dont ride the Vuelta, but yes ciclotourist things...and the ad he did for Flex is been very criticized in Spain for supporters.

Some strong supporters in Spain are leaving him.

Froome has just won his first Tour, and he is nota british born, but he is an idol in kenya and South Africa, and all the people know him love him

Excellent post. Good to see you have not been intimidated by the mods and are still not afraid to speak the truth.

 

[darwin553]

That is some advancement in three years. Funny how none of the other riders have benefitted from this revolutionary leap.

I'm not purely just talking about Froome but I understand that is what this thread's about but it is not unusual and really it should be the norm to expect the average rider's power data to be better than what it was 5, 10 or 15 years ago.

 

[Benotti69]

It is humanly possible to ride quite stronger than Froome nowadays. But now he is the best so far.

Why you said it is not possible? he performed slower than in the dark era.

Can you point to where some has ridden stronger than Froome and been clean?

 

[zastomito]

I agree it is humanly possible to ride stronger than what riders were doing in the 80s, 90s and even 2000s. The advancements in nutrition and training programs tell me this. Also, I would say that almost all sporting competitions have seen an increase in performance both in power and in stamina.

Basically Brailsfords evolution argument. You might be right, it's not like football, NFL, MLB, tennis or any other professional sport is rife with doping.

 

[BroDeal]

Basically Brailsfords evolution argument.

Sky will be racing in the U.S. this month. Someone should contact a creationist organization. The members might want to protest.

 

[thrawn]

I agree it is humanly possible to ride stronger than what riders were doing in the 80s, 90s and even 2000s. The advancements in nutrition and training programs tell me this. Also, I would say that almost all sporting competitions have seen an increase in performance both in power and in stamina.

Yes almost all sporting competitions have seen an increase in power, stamina, speed, etc. Funny how these leaps came after EPO was readily available to athletes.

 

[the sceptic]

what a strange coincidence that nutritional gains and super advanced training programs only work on Dawg and Porte.

 

[Taxus4a]

Can you point to where some has ridden stronger than Froome and been clean?

Quintana climb better than Froome and he is clean.
Sastre and Evans were better sometimes than Froome, cleans.

But the questions in not that, I think Froome is one of the best in History, but of course there were a lot of people all over the worl with more potential than Froome and could win him if they are trained correctly for that since 15 years old.

Maybe Pantani was outside human possibility, but Pantani is far away of Froome. Performance most of people did in the dark era will be one day improved for clean people.

Quintana told another pro last month, if i were riding in Colombia I couldn be top 5.

I was banned for repeat arguments to this statements, so there is censure here, so if you want I explain you this in private, and why Froome perfomance looks more than really is and why the argument that some people give has his mistakes.

 

[Taxus4a]

what a strange coincidence that nutritional gains and super advanced training programs only work on Dawg and Porte.

That works the same for Tiernan locke than for Froome or for Zandio, but Zandio now is not winning Burgos as before...

Froome and Porte are very good riders, but Porte is not a man for three weeks... he is like Horner.. he was strong some days, but he didnt ride full gas the ITT.

 

[the sceptic]

#TDF, Stage 20. Semnoz (10.65 km, 8.56 %, 912 m). Nairo Quintana: 31 min 18 sec, 20.42 Kph, VAM 1745 m/h, 6.12 W/kg [DrF].

doc ‏@veloclinic 20. jul

@ammattipyoraily preliminary Quinta 5.4% faster than pVAM 2.2% faster then DpVAM

doc ‏@veloclinic 20. jul

@veloclinic using a height 1.66 m weight 57 kg that puts Quintana between 6.3 w/kg full draft 6.4 w/kg no draft for a 31 min effort

why would anyone think he is clean?

 

[Digger]

Quintana climb better than Froome and he is clean.
Sastre and Evans were better sometimes than Froome, cleans.But the questions in not that, I think Froome is one of the best in History, but of course there were a lot of people all over the worl with more potential than Froome and could win him if they are trained correctly for that since 15 years old.

Maybe Pantani was outside human possibility, but Pantani is far away of Froome. Performance most of people did in the dark era will be one day improved for clean people.

Quintana told another pro last month, if i were riding in Colombia I couldn be top 5.

I was banned for repeat arguments to this statements, so there is censure here, so if you want I explain you this in private, and why Froome perfomance looks more than really is and why the argument that some people give has his mistakes.

Sastre was on the Fuentes programme.
Cadel worked with Ferrari. And boasted to guys in the peleton of the same.

 

[spalco]

Froome has just won his first Tour, and he is nota british born, but he is an idol in kenya and South Africa, and all the people know him love him

Is he really? I'd like to know more about that. Got any news articles from those countries that portray him as a local guy?

I mean, I wish that was true, and eventually more athletes from those countries (or Africa in general) becoming pro cyclists because of a hypothetical "Froome effect", but it doesn't appear likely to me.

 

[boladelmundo]

why would anyone think he is clean?

Because Sky have the best sport scientists in the world!
They also have the best method.

 

[Afrank]

Is he really? I'd like to know more about that. Got any news articles from those countries that portray him as a local guy?

I mean, I wish that was true, and eventually more athletes from those countries (or Africa in general) becoming pro cyclists because of a hypothetical "Froome effect", but it doesn't appear likely to me.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2013/jul/22/kenya-chris-froome-tour-de-france-video