Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I guess belief and reality don't get along together very well.
Be happy not to be burnt for blasphemy.

But it hurts... coz if not much people would be plain dumb, we would have not to deal with doping, or all the other BS happening around us. All caused by loads and loads of idiots following evil minded people.

 

[sir fly]

But it hurts... coz if not much people would be plain dumb, we would have not to deal with doping, or all the other BS happening around us. All caused by loads and loads of idiots following evil minded people.

Don't take me wrong, but I think you need some sleep.
Relax... dive into oblivion... everything's just amusement.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Un Chien Andalou

Even better than the movie is the song it inspired: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVyS9JwtFoQ

 

[sir fly]

Even better than the movie is the song it inspired: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVyS9JwtFoQ

Too many words.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Too many words.

No, just enough.

 

[frenchfry]

Any photos of the dawg should be systematicaly photoshopped to make him look like a cyclist and not an eggbeater on a bike.

 

[pastronef]

I swear to God, when Kennaugh was up ahead of the leader's group looking back at Froome/Contador... part of went like "There's no way! This guy's going to pull a Lance-look-back stunt! He's going to take off!!! Do it! Do it Kennaugh! Do it!".

Sadly enough, he contained himself and let The Froominator windmill his way up the mountain as if he were riding on a flat.

What we saw today is basically the forcing of the Contador hand, doping-wise. Now, Alberto, to be on the safe side, is going to have to up the dosage to put up with the Alien's sprints, and possibly all of the Alien's team.

so like "I was forced to dope to keep up"?

noone is forcing anyone

 

[LaFlorecita]

so like "I was forced to dope to keep up"?

noone is forcing anyone

he is forced to dope even more and maybe find new methods if he wants to win races vs da Dawg.

 

[pastronef]

What is surprising about that? Nieve was a GT-CG guy long before Sky. So what the heck if he finishes a stage T-3 in Feb? Much more obvious are riders you never heard of dominating pros in San Luis... That is doubtful, but certainly not Nieve.

everybody loved Nieve when he won the Giro stage, and did well and helped Contador on Ventoux 2013
He's just racing with the wrong team now, so people are not happy.
I am more than happy for Mikel

 

[LaFlorecita]

everybody loved Nieve when he won the Giro stage, and did well and helped Contador on Ventoux 2013
He's just racing with the wrong team now, so people are not happy.
I am more than happy for Mikel

But you'd be happy for any rider as long as they ride for Sky basically you are the opposite of many people on here, riders you normally wouldn't give a single **** about are now holy just because they ride for sky

 

[Libertine Seguros]

What is surprising about that? Nieve was a GT-CG guy long before Sky. So what the heck if he finishes a stage T-3 in Feb? Much more obvious are riders you never heard of dominating pros in San Luis... That is doubtful, but certainly not Nieve.

Don't project. I'd certainly heard of Dani Diaz (a few years of decent results in the same race) and Kleber Silva (consistently strong in the climbing stages of the Tour do Rio), while Rodolfo Torres did the Giro last year with Coldeportes. Don't know about Torres but the two Funvic riders seem like there's obviously something going on there. I presume that's who you mean and not the likes of Sep?lveda (rides for Br?tagne and was top 5 of the Tour Med and Crit?rium International last year) and Contreras (who is 20 years old).

Didn't Valls win a fairly hilly Tour stage back in 2010?

No, he was 2nd. You're thinking of the Ski Station Les Rousses stage, where Sylvain Chavanel won from the break, Valls didn't manage to catch him but got away from the second group on the road and held off the p?loton.

Profile:

He was 3rd in San Lu?s that year and won on Mirador del Potrero.

 

[pastronef]

But you'd be happy for any rider as long as they ride for Sky basically you are the opposite of many people on here, riders you normally wouldn't give a single **** about are now holy just because they ride for sky

no not holy, it's exaggerating. but I liked that stage win at Giro by Nieve.
Agree with you. I must somehow fight the hate with some love
:*

 

[sniper]

lol,
Sunderland in 2009 about the signing of Barloworld's Augustyn and tactics and technique.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/augustyn-looking-forward-to-joining-team-sky

Sky's Scott Sunderland, who has been crucial in the team's recruitment of riders, believes that Augustyn has the key ingredients needed for success at the top level. "We noticed the talent John-Lee is harnessing, but also that technically he has never been taught much. That's where the headroom with him lies. With the right guidance and instructions, John-Lee can grow immensely as a bike rider. It's one thing to have the talent, but tactical insight is another. That's where we can help John-Lee during the coming season and see where he takes it."

a lot of 'headroom' for Chris, me thinks.

 

[hrotha]

Contador is being forced to take his doping up a notch (well, he already did in 2014 if you ask me), much like Sky were forced in late 2010 after a disastrous first year. This is not about ethics.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador is being forced to take his doping up a notch (well, he already did in 2014 if you ask me), much like Sky were forced in late 2010 after a disastrous first year. This is not about ethics.

He better take it up another notch The Sky's the limit

 

[rhubroma]

When Contador won on Friday, the Sky camp chalked it up to their man not being on the same target as the Spaniard, which means first the Giro.

Then we witnessed yesterday's exploit. According to Gazzetta.it Froome, in the last 3 km at 12,7% gradient expressed a Vam of 1941 (15,25 km/h, for a time of 11?41?). This is incredible from so many vantages, that it isn't even worth commenting upon.

Now, I ask myself, if this is only the first race of the season and Froome (who supposedly isn't far along in his preparation), what type of extraterrestrial values can we expect come July?

On the face of it, however, Froome really is very, very thin and taught. He also intelligently gradually increased his workload the day before, when he lost 19 sec. to Contador, but was able to chop down a 31 sec. advantage in the last couple of k.

Normally when you are able to take back time while chasing, it is a sign you are in a phase of growth. Contador thus wore himself out more than Froome did and then the Briton from Kenya made the Spaniard pay heavily for it yesterday.

In the final analysis, it seems that Contador needs to get thinner still and increase his power, which he surely will do as the season progresses. Yet if Froome is also able to improve considerably, then Contador will only be able to beat him by changing tactics.

Anyway you look at it, though, Froome gave Contador a brutal lesson out on the road.

 

[The Hitch]

I just logged on to compliment you on the most high brow joke I've seen on the internet for a long time.

All those times you tried to paint yourself as a "winner" who hardly ever reads the clinic, as opposed to all the "losers" you claim take it and themselves too seriously, I didn't realize what you meant was that you spend your Saturday nights reloading it to read every post.

 

[The Hitch]

When Contador won on Friday, the Sky camp chalked it up to their man not being on the same target as the Spaniard, which means first the Giro.

Then we witnessed yesterday's exploit. According to Gazzetta.it Froome, in the last 3 km at 12,7% gradient expressed a Vam of 1941 (15,25 km/h, for a time of 11?41?). This is incredible from so many vantages, that it isn't even worth commenting upon.

Now, I ask myself, if this is only the first race of the season and Froome (who supposedly isn't far along in his preparation), what type of extraterrestrial values can we expect come July?

On the face of it, however, Froome really is very, very thin and taught. He also intelligently gradually increased his workload the day before, when he lost 19 sec. to Contador, but was able to chop down a 31 sec. advantage in the last couple of k.

Normally when you are able to take back time while chasing, it is a sign you are in a phase of growth. Contador thus wore himself out more than Froome did and then the Briton from Kenya made the Spaniard pay heavily for it yesterday.

In the final analysis, it seems that Contador needs to get thinner still and increase his power, which he surely will do as the season progresses. Yet if Froome is also able to improve considerably, then Contador will only be able to beat him by changing tactics.

Anyway you look at it, though, Froome gave Contador a brutal lesson out on the road.

Maybe froome went out at night on Friday after being beaten by contador and secretly did a 5 hour training ride with the gps off, therefore making himself stronger for the Saturday stage. Afterall, according to his book, that's how he thinks it works.

 

[LaFlorecita]

In the final analysis, it seems that Contador needs to get thinner still and increase his power, which he surely will do as the season progresses. Yet if Froome is also able to improve considerably, then Contador will only be able to beat him by changing tactics.

Anyway you look at it, though, Froome gave Contador a brutal lesson out on the road.

I'm sure Riis and co will come up with "something". Maybe. Hopefully.

 

[roundabout]

Then we witnessed yesterday's exploit. According to Gazzetta.it Froome, in the last 3 km at 12,7% gradient expressed a Vam of 1941 (15,25 km/h, for a time of 11?41?). This is incredible from so many vantages, that it isn't even worth commenting upon.

probably <6.5 W/kg for under 12 minutes

And he can allegedly do that for over 30 minutes when in Tour form

 

[roundabout]

Didn't Valls win a fairly hilly Tour stage back in 2010?

Judging by Chris Froome's career trajectory Rafael Valls is going to blow up the entire sport within the next year. In other words, his recent form is perfectly natural.

http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider_palm.asp?riderid=7955&year=0&all=0&current=0

No wonder Van garderen underestimated him.

 

[blackcat]

Anyway you look at it, though, Froome gave Contador a brutal lesson out on the road.

I am thinking long game, or attempting, and failing to dissect the long game. Is it really GC here. But, if I concede it not GC, do I say Froome surrenders the race on stage 3 when 26 seconds arrears?

I dont understand Froome. p'raps, he was trying to get one over on Pistolero's home turf. When Oedipus Tex never could rub Contador's nose in it on the rode, or the dinner table at Astana, Froome is seeking to do an equivalent.

long game is July. and the legs. I dont know if they could be testing out their new evolution of AICAR or GW5015 or lipotropin.

But Brailsford gotta outlaw the pancakes with Nutella surely.

 

[The_Juan]

probably <6.5 W/kg for under 12 minutes

And he can allegedly do that for over 30 minutes when in Tour form

Contador himself was taken aback at the fact that Chris kept on going and going and going and, when Alberto thought he was going to reduce the effort, he didn't stop, which is the reason he decided to ride at his own tempo to minimize losses.

 

[Benotti69]

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Anyway you look at it, though, Froome gave Contador a brutal lesson out on the road.

Someone (Brajkovic?) did similar in the 2010 Dauphine a few years ago. I doubt Contador is too concerned. Bertie won TdF, Janez was 43rd.

 

[thehog]

I swear to God, when Kennaugh was up ahead of the leader's group looking back at Froome/Contador... part of went like "There's no way! This guy's going to pull a Lance-look-back stunt! He's going to take off!!! Do it! Do it Kennaugh! Do it!".

Sadly enough, he contained himself and let The Froominator windmill his way up the mountain as if he were riding on a flat.

What we saw today is basically the forcing of the Contador hand, doping-wise. Now, Alberto, to be on the safe side, is going to have to up the dosage to put up with the Alien's sprints, and possibly all of the Alien's team.

Kennaugh's attack was Ricco styled. On the drops out of the saddle. I was actually laughing.

Someone at Sky HQ has taught Froome about patience. Last years Vuelta and in this race he is measuring his attacks. He appears to wait longer. The steepness favoured Froome so I still think Froome is below where Contador is. He was a little lucky. Contador attack 7km from the finish on Friday was stupid. He paid for that.

Saxo v Sky Arms race is on. Those two teams are miles ahead of anyone else. Miles.