Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[fmk_RoI]

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one who's main GC rider is retiring next season...

You might say that but I couldn't possibly comment.

But it would certainly help drive up his price if another team was bidding for him...

 

[mrhender]

Froome, like Indurain, will not sign with other teams. I don´t see him in another environment

As long as there is no internal threat to his position in sky (being surpassed by Thomas, other) then i don't see him leaving the team.

It would be interesting though, to see how he would fare in another outfit.

On the other hand, perhaps at some point Sky will rather ship him off, producing another TDF winner.

That of course depends on their risk assessment regarding the Froome marvel.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

It's not always a good idea having all your country's good riders on one team. Some races accrue points towards nation totals that determine team size at things like the olympic road race.

 

[thehog]

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Alberto says "with my weight I will struggle in 55kph ITTs but I can do well in 49-50kph ITTs" his weight is 62kg but Dawg with 63kg can win 55kph ITTs

Froome never close to 63 kg that I know of. IIRC, Grappe said his weight never fluctuated much from 69 kg during the post-2011 period for which he was given data. I think the lowest speculated on might be 66-67.

Froome has the body type for an ITT specialist, it's always been his climbing that has been hard to understand. That said, don't forget ScienceisCool's analysis that found an increase in power of about 15% in ITTs from pre- to post-2011. So it can't all be just weight loss.

I'd say he is 64-65kg in this 2015 photo. In 2012 he was even skinnier. 2013 he was 65kg.

Contador is right. 55km p/hour is pure insanity for Froome.

That is ridiculous. It is not possible to estimate any persons weight within 3 - 4 kg even if you are standing in front of them, and you certainly can't from a photograph, or even comparison of photographs.

But its not ridiculous. He states his weight as being "66kg" in his book. Which makes it a very easy task to predict his "actual" weight.

Besides law enforcement ask witnesses to predict a persons weight all the time and release those values. Good enough for them good enough for the Clinic

 

[thehog]

More smack from the Dawg:

Chris Froome, the Kenyan-born professional road racing cyclist who competes for the U.K., told CNBC that the anti-doping agencies in cycling had really "stepped up their game."

"I think anti-doping, it's been a massive part of the evolution of the sport over the past 10 years. Especially moving on from the whole Lance Armstrong era," he said Tuesday in an interview at the annual Web Summit in Dublin

"We are now the only sport to have 24 hour testing, so they could come and wake us up at 2 o'clock in the morning, 365 days a year," he added. "And (there's) a no needles policy so they've gone above and beyond to try and get rid of doping within the sport."

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/03/tour-winner-froome-says-anti-doping-agencies-have-stepped-up-their-game.html

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

*could* being the key word there

 

[thehog]

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*could* being the key word there

More to the point 24 hour testing is not in existence nor been approved.

 

[Irondan]

More smack from the Dawg:

Chris Froome, the Kenyan-born professional road racing cyclist who competes for the U.K., told CNBC that the anti-doping agencies in cycling had really "stepped up their game."

"I think anti-doping, it's been a massive part of the evolution of the sport over the past 10 years. Especially moving on from the whole Lance Armstrong era," he said Tuesday in an interview at the annual Web Summit in Dublin

"We are now the only sport to have 24 hour testing, so they could come and wake us up at 2 o'clock in the morning, 365 days a year," he added. "And (there's) a no needles policy so they've gone above and beyond to try and get rid of doping within the sport."

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/03/tour-winner-froome-says-anti-doping-agencies-have-stepped-up-their-game.html

Yet the peloton is rife with doping, dope, dopers, past dopers, future dopers.

The sponsorship spigot has slowed to a trickle, the thinking is if Froome serves some Kool Aid the sponsors will drink it up.

 

[fmk_RoI]

More smack from the Dawg:

"We are now the only sport to have 24 hour testing, so they could come and wake us up at 2 o'clock in the morning, 365 days a year," he added. "And (there's) a no needles policy so they've gone above and beyond to try and get rid of doping within the sport."

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/03/tour-winner-froome-says-anti-doping-agencies-have-stepped-up-their-game.html

24 hour testing and no needles are WADA policies and applicable to *all* WADA affiliated sports. They are not cycling-only policies.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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More to the point 24 hour testing is not in existence nor been approved.

I think we do know it has been used. There is a specific issue with regard to its use in France, but that is being sorted with the law being changed.

 

[fmk_RoI]

The sponsorship spigot has slowed to a trickle

What's the evidence for this? Has there been a comparison between total WT teams' budgets this year and last? Any statistics to back it up or is it just an opinion?

 

[Irondan]

The sponsorship spigot has slowed to a trickle

What's the evidence for this? Has there been a comparison between total WT teams' budgets this year and last? Any statistics to back it up or is it just an opinion?

It was my personal feeling/opinion based on various news reports.

I may be wrong, and I hope I am. If I'm wrong then cycling is alive and healthy, as it should be.

 

[SeriousSam]

This is somewhat off topic, but anyone else find it amusing that the Dawg continues being referred to as 'Kenyan born' whilst almost no one knows Sir Brad was born in Belgium?

 

[the sceptic]

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This is somewhat off topic, but anyone else find it amusing that the Dawg continues being referred to as 'Kenyan born' whilst almost no one knows Sir Brad was born in Belgium?

I find brits to be some of the most patriotic people in the world so it's a bit strange they keep bringing up the Kenya part and that Dawg doesn't have a knighthood yet.

My guess is it's because they need to keep fueling that "exotic" background as part of the Myth of the Dawg.

 

[Brullnux]

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This is somewhat off topic, but anyone else find it amusing that the Dawg continues being referred to as 'Kenyan born' whilst almost no one knows Sir Brad was born in Belgium?

As soon as Froome wins his third Tour and Olympic gold medal, then the media will stop saying he was Kenyan born. Mainly because by then he'll be Sir Chris.

 

[thehog]

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This is somewhat off topic, but anyone else find it amusing that the Dawg continues being referred to as 'Kenyan born' whilst almost no one knows Sir Brad was born in Belgium?

As soon as Froome wins his third Tour and Olympic gold medal, then the media will stop saying he was Kenyan born. Mainly because by then he'll be Sir Chris.

It will be a race between Dawg and David Walsh on who can become Sir first....

 

[Benotti69]

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This is somewhat off topic, but anyone else find it amusing that the Dawg continues being referred to as 'Kenyan born' whilst almost no one knows Sir Brad was born in Belgium?

I find brits to be some of the most patriotic people in the world so it's a bit strange they keep bringing up the Kenya part and that Dawg doesn't have a knighthood yet.

My guess is it's because they need to keep fueling that "exotic" background as part of the Myth of the Dawg.

My guess it is because they don't trust Froome. He'll test positive at some point.

 

[pastronef]

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This is somewhat off topic, but anyone else find it amusing that the Dawg continues being referred to as 'Kenyan born' whilst almost no one knows Sir Brad was born in Belgium?

it´s because Wiggins always had a UK passport, while Froome was Kenyan before becoming a Brit

 

[the sceptic]

http://www.the42.ie/not-good-enough-chris-froome-winning-tour-de-france-2424694-Nov2015/

“This Tour de France went extremely well but I came away thinking I wasn’t good enough,” he told the audience.

“I thought I should have won more. ‘What can I change from my training so that I can be even more consistent next year?’

How can you get marginal gains on top of marginal gains?

“Now, more than ever, I have to be trying to find those extra gains

“Things like using hair gel. Having hand gel. Once you’re on the bus, once you get to your room — just to make sure you’re sanitised.

“Every hotel, our bedding, our mattresses, are taken from hotel to hotel, so you get the same night’s sleep.

 

[del1962]

Are you sure Froome didn't always had a British Passport, more likely because Brad was only in Belgium as a baby while his mum was temporarily there and was brought up in Britain, while I don't think Froome has ever lived in Britain

 

[Archibald]

Froome, like Indurain, will not sign with other teams. I don´t see him in another environment

As long as there is no internal threat to his position in sky (being surpassed by Thomas, other) then i don't see him leaving the team.

It would be interesting though, to see how he would fare in another outfit.

On the other hand, perhaps at some point Sky will rather ship him off, producing another TDF winner.

That of course depends on their risk assessment regarding the Froome marvel.

When does Project French Winner begin?

This is somewhat off topic, but anyone else find it amusing that the Dawg continues being referred to as 'Kenyan born' whilst almost no one knows Sir Brad was born in Belgium?

Reminds me of Andy Murray and the English. If he's winning he's "British" and they love him, but if he loses, he's back to being a Scot...

 

[thehog]

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Are you sure Froome didn't always had a British Passport, more likely because Brad was only in Belgium as a baby while his mum was temporarily there and was brought up in Britain, while I don't think Froome has ever lived in Britain

No. In his book, he admits his British heritage, British passport came later.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

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This is somewhat off topic, but anyone else find it amusing that the Dawg continues being referred to as 'Kenyan born' whilst almost no one knows Sir Brad was born in Belgium?

As soon as Froome wins his third Tour and Olympic gold medal, then the media will stop saying he was Kenyan born. Mainly because by then he'll be Sir Chris.

It will be a race between Dawg and David Walsh on who can become Sir first....

I thought David already was a Saint?

 

[Catwhoorg]

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Are you sure Froome didn't always had a British Passport, more likely because Brad was only in Belgium as a baby while his mum was temporarily there and was brought up in Britain, while I don't think Froome has ever lived in Britain

No. In his book, he admits his British heritage, British passport came later.

Froome was eligible for a UK Passport from birth, but never utilized it until later in life.

Sir Brad always was on the UK Passport.

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

Multiple articles claim that he had a British passport since birth?

"I just thought, I bet he's a dual nationality, I bet he's got a British passport, and he told me that he did in fact have a British and Kenyan passport." In fact, Froome had only recently acquired a Kenyan passport, to ride in the Games, having previously travelled under British documents.
http://www.podiumcafe.com/book-corner/2013/7/17/4531880/va-va-froome-by-david-sharp

He has had a British passport since birth, and always said he didn’t want to take a legitimate Kenyan’s place on the Kenyan cycling team
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-12-15/cyclist-chris-froome-on-the-tour-de-france-lance-armstrong-and-sports-personality-of-the-year-2013

“Although I was riding under the Kenyan flag I made it clear that I had always carried a British passport and felt British,” said Froome.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/11/news/underdog-no-more-chris-froome-hopes-for-a-bit-more-liberty-in-2012_198493