Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[thehog]

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What? You are just doing strawman, have fun with your hilarious logic.

Ah clinic 101 - invoke the Strawman ...

Back to being sensible, Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago. Several riders who rode the Tour performed well, Makja rode the Giro & Tour.

I don't think Froome went that deep at the Tour, it was all about race control in the final week.

He's just odd at times.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago.

Between cashing in on the critéium circuit and fulfilling media and sponsorship duties, it is not unusual for the Tour winner to lose form. Wiggins kept his by basically going straight from Tour to Olys.

 

[burning]

And the break between TDF and Olympics RR was only 6 days, this year it is 13. This could be an important factor as well.

 

[kwikki]

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One of the greatest cyclists of all time dropped by Rui Costa going up the last climb, this guy really is a conundrum.

Maybe he is knackered from The Tour? I mean, if he's was doping (at will as he is protected) he would just dial it up and keep the same level????

No he peaks all year round. That is how he manages to win every race he enters and never breathes with his mouth open.

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

What? You are just doing strawman, have fun with your hilarious logic.

Ah clinic 101 - invoke the Strawman ...

Back to being sensible, Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago. Several riders who rode the Tour performed well, Makja rode the Giro & Tour.

I don't think Froome went that deep at the Tour, it was all about race control in the final week.

He's just odd at times.

Froome was never a serious contender for this race, in spite of popular opinion. He has always sucked in one day races, struggling to even finish at Worlds and Liege for example.

This course needed to be a lot harder for him to have any chance. Simon Yates should have had Froome's spot IMO, Froome doesn't have the weapons to win on this circuit.

 

[thehog]

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What? You are just doing strawman, have fun with your hilarious logic.

Ah clinic 101 - invoke the Strawman ...

Back to being sensible, Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago. Several riders who rode the Tour performed well, Makja rode the Giro & Tour.

I don't think Froome went that deep at the Tour, it was all about race control in the final week.

He's just odd at times.

Froome was never a serious contender for this race, in spite of popular opinion. He has always sucked in one day races, struggling to even finish at Worlds and Liege for example.

This course needed to be a lot harder for him to have any chance. Simon Yates should have had Froome's spot IMO, Froome doesn't have the weapons to win on this circuit.

Fully agree. Wasn't sure what they were doing having Yates drop from the Thomas group to help Froome bridge across. Froome did his spinning thing but the motor wasn't working today. They should have backed Thomas 100%, it was his type of course.

 

[movingtarget]

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One of the greatest cyclists of all time dropped by Rui Costa going up the last climb, this guy really is a conundrum.

Maybe he is knackered from The Tour? I mean, if he's was doping (at will as he is protected) he would just dial it up and keep the same level????

No he peaks all year round. That is how he manages to win every race he enters and never breathes with his mouth open.

That sounds more like Valverde who also failed.

 

[elduggo]

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And there we have it - the worlds most protected (British) rider who is allowed to dope and win at will has just claimed the Olympic Gold, oh wait ...

Not sure I even get the sarcasm here...doesnt really make sense. Froome was never going to try for the road race he was there as the red herring for Geraint- you might have been better placed waiting till after the TT.

I'm sure that was the team strategy alright. Froome's ego was never going to let him play along though, as seen by his breaking out of his group (risking dragging the whole group up to Thomas).

This was on a plate for the Brits. Thomas didn't have to do any work in his group cos he could claim he was only marking the move for Froome. They messed it up royally. Without the crash Thomas probably would have medalled, so it nearly worked.

What was Froome doing in the bushes? Commentators said 'natural break', but riders don't generally leave their bikes for that.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Froome was never going to try for the road race he was there as the red herring for Geraint

Which explains why Froome tried to bridge across on the final lap. And his 'scheduled' bike change. He wasn't really trying, just being a super-domestique. It all makes sense now.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Without the crash Thomas probably would have medalled, so it nearly worked.

And no one could possibly have anticipated even the possibility of Thomas crashing, not Thomas, not on a technical descent, not with all that pressure to perform on him. He wuz robbed so he wuz.

 

[gillan1969]

his preposterous sprint with Martin for 132nd pace would suggest he is in as much in mental control as he was when he entered the ventoux running race....

on edge chris???

 

[rick james]

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What? You are just doing strawman, have fun with your hilarious logic.

Ah clinic 101 - invoke the Strawman ...

Back to being sensible, Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago. Several riders who rode the Tour performed well, Makja rode the Giro & Tour.

I don't think Froome went that deep at the Tour, it was all about race control in the final week.

He's just odd at times.

Or maybe just maybe this doped up protected rider sat up and saved himself for the TT because that suits him better..nothing odd in that, the odd thing is you lot expecting Froome to win every race he enters

 

[thehog]

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What? You are just doing strawman, have fun with your hilarious logic.

Ah clinic 101 - invoke the Strawman ...

Back to being sensible, Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago. Several riders who rode the Tour performed well, Makja rode the Giro & Tour.

I don't think Froome went that deep at the Tour, it was all about race control in the final week.

He's just odd at times.

Or maybe just maybe this doped up protected rider sat up and saved himself for the TT because that suits him better..nothing odd in that, the odd thing is you lot expecting Froome to win every race he enters

Which is why he tried to out sprint Dan Martin for 12th place & tried to bridge to Thomas in the last 27km? Good analysis super coach.

 

[gillan1969]

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:lol:

Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago.

Between cashing in on the critéium circuit and fulfilling media and sponsorship duties, it is not unusual for the Tour winner to lose form. Wiggins kept his by basically going straight from Tour to Olys.

Please keep logic and context out this thread, it helps no one

:lol: :lol: :lol:

yup....traditionally..they used to drive themselves to crits...for up to month and shovel down lots of class a to aid and abet....salaries were lower and they could make a shed load of cash and party with the locals...payback time if you like...loss of form made sense

today?????

wiggins only did the TT in anger...lets see what our hapless hero does on wednesday...there is a hill and so he may go sans velo (appox 7kg saved )

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago.

Between cashing in on the critéium circuit and fulfilling media and sponsorship duties, it is not unusual for the Tour winner to lose form. Wiggins kept his by basically going straight from Tour to Olys.

Please keep logic and context out this thread, it helps no one

Logic about pro cycling tells us the tests are a joke and everyone dopes.

Context is that Froome is in Brazil to win. He ain't getting appearance money to be in Rio.

Don't believe that a professional of Froome's standing who leaves no attention to detail out of his marginal gains training masterplan is going to be interrupted by a crit or 2 nor some media fluffing.

 

[gooner]

Re: Re:

Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago.

Between cashing in on the critéium circuit and fulfilling media and sponsorship duties, it is not unusual for the Tour winner to lose form. Wiggins kept his by basically going straight from Tour to Olys.

Please keep logic and context out this thread, it helps no one

Logic about pro cycling tells us the tests are a joke and everyone dopes.

Context is that Froome is in Brazil to win. He ain't getting appearance money to be in Rio.

Don't believe that a professional of Froome's standing who leaves no attention to detail out of his marginal gains training masterplan is going to be interrupted by a crit or 2 nor some media fluffing.

He rode the London race too. Of course he wanted to win, yet it's another to hold form.

I also think he was over hyped for this race in the first place.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago.

Between cashing in on the critéium circuit and fulfilling media and sponsorship duties, it is not unusual for the Tour winner to lose form. Wiggins kept his by basically going straight from Tour to Olys.

Please keep logic and context out this thread, it helps no one

Logic about pro cycling tells us the tests are a joke and everyone dopes.

Context is that Froome is in Brazil to win. He ain't getting appearance money to be in Rio.

Don't believe that a professional of Froome's standing who leaves no attention to detail out of his marginal gains training masterplan is going to be interrupted by a crit or 2 nor some media fluffing.

He rode the London race too. Of course he wanted to win, yet it's another to hold form.

I also think he was over hyped for this race in the first place.

Agreed, he was never really a chance even when on his best form. Even though he just lost the fat and the engine was always there.

He should have just rode for Thomas, he had the best chance of a medal, then go for the gold in the ITT.

 

[BYOP88]

his preposterous sprint with Martin for 132nd pace would suggest he is in as much in mental control as he was when he entered the ventoux running race....

on edge chris???

The guys who finished ahead of him may got popped. Froome would look pretty silly if he didn't sprint for 12(was it) and Dan Martin ended up with gold. :razz: :razz:

 

[Digger]

Re: Re:

Froome certainly looked nothing like the Tour rider he was two weeks ago.

Between cashing in on the critéium circuit and fulfilling media and sponsorship duties, it is not unusual for the Tour winner to lose form. Wiggins kept his by basically going straight from Tour to Olys.

Please keep logic and context out this thread, it helps no one

Logic about pro cycling tells us the tests are a joke and everyone dopes.

Context is that Froome is in Brazil to win. He ain't getting appearance money to be in Rio.

Don't believe that a professional of Froome's standing who leaves no attention to detail out of his marginal gains training masterplan is going to be interrupted by a crit or 2 nor some media fluffing.

He rode the London race too. Of course he wanted to win, yet it's another to hold form.

I also think he was over hyped for this race in the first place.

This - big time.

I mean setting aside my views on him he has never done it in one day races so it would have been unreal for him to start now...although it is froome I suppose!

I tipped him for silver in the TT and i'll stick with that...dumoullin should be shot, after pulling out so early yesterday to save himself for the tt, if he doesn't win.

 

[gillan1969]

his preposterous sprint with Martin for 132nd pace would suggest he is in as much in mental control as he was when he entered the ventoux running race....

on edge chris???

The guys who finished ahead of him may got popped. Froome would look pretty silly if he didn't sprint for 12(was it) and Dan Martin ended up with gold. :razz: :razz:

by that time their will be a judge's panel where your score for style is multiplied by a convoluted combination of finishing time and time difference...this may eliminate our hapless hero from any victories, ever again... damn those judges

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

Logic about pro cycling tells us the tests are a joke and everyone dopes.

Context is that Froome is in Brazil to win. He ain't getting appearance money to be in Rio.

Don't believe that a professional of Froome's standing who leaves no attention to detail out of his marginal gains training masterplan is going to be interrupted by a crit or 2 nor some media fluffing.

He rode the London race too. Of course he wanted to win, yet it's another to hold form.

I also think he was over hyped for this race in the first place.

This - big time.

I mean setting aside my views on him he has never done it in one day races so it would have been unreal for him to start now...although it is froome I suppose!

I tipped him for silver in the TT and i'll stick with that...dumoullin should be shot, after pulling out so early yesterday to save himself for the tt, if he doesn't win.

Tony Martin for the TT, he's out for blood IMO. You don't go on crazy breaks like he did at the Tour unless you're either training or throwing down the gauntlet. Dumoulin and Froome for 2nd and 3rd

 

[thehog]

Expect big things from the Dawg today. Now he has just lost the fat and the engine has always been there, he should win with that big engine he has, the tests have proven it.

 

[deeno1975]

Get back in the saddle and spin Froomey, spin like we know you can...

 

[Sorped]

Mission Rio 2016 accomplished; Make it look like you're a clean rider with ups and downs, will make it less preposterous when going full *** come La Vuelta...

 

[fmk_RoI]

So that was also the price for the LA CAS decision, was it? They had to surrender in the road race on Sunday and then surrender again in the time trial today. How did CAS monetise that, did they have bets on GvA and Spartacus?