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Read what I said.
TSP has been heavily critical of Team Sky in the past, and stated that Froome should not have ridden. Now he is saying that Froome's attack was not implausible.
That demonstrates an even-handed view of Team Sky (whether correct or not). What he says about B-M has nothing to do with what I was talking about when I used the term 'even-handed.
SafeBet said:
Read what I said.
TSP has been heavily critical of Team Sky in the past, and stated that Froome should not have ridden. Now he is saying that Froome's attack was not implausible.
That demonstrates an even-handed view of Team Sky (whether correct or not). What he says about B-M has nothing to do with what I was talking about when I used the term 'even-handed.
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This piece reads as a justification for Froome's performance, and as with much media commentary I have seen peddled in recent days, it seeks to downplay the absolute brilliant nature of the ride......but why try and dampen it?
When we witness something brilliant I cannot get my head around why so much of the commentary is based on trying to downplay the performance. He put almost 8.5 minutes into the 7th place finisher on the satge and looked fresh enough to do the same again the next day if required. Apart from the sheer inaccuracy peddled in terms of time gained on the descent, other nonsense put forward about aeros, refuelling, hi-viz jackets, tactics, gravel tracks etc is a basic insult to the intelligence of many cycling fans. It does not explain such dominance.
It appears that every single reason other than the sheer physical supremacy of Froome is being put forward as an explanation for the performance. So if you are a Froome fan or a sky fan why be afraid to herald a performance for the ages?
macbindle said:
This piece reads as a justification for Froome's performance, and as with much media commentary I have seen peddled in recent days, it seeks to downplay the absolute brilliant nature of the ride......but why try and dampen it?
When we witness something brilliant I cannot get my head around why so much of the commentary is based on trying to downplay the performance. He put almost 8.5 minutes into the 7th place finisher on the satge and looked fresh enough to do the same again the next day if required. Apart from the sheer inaccuracy peddled in terms of time gained on the descent, other nonsense put forward about aeros, refuelling, hi-viz jackets, tactics, gravel tracks etc is a basic insult to the intelligence of many cycling fans. It does not explain such dominance.
It appears that every single reason other than the sheer physical supremacy of Froome is being put forward as an explanation for the performance. So if you are a Froome fan or a sky fan why be afraid to herald a performance for the ages?
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The Bots fail to see that it always seems to happen to Sky riders. Mostly the Dawg and Wigan that information is either 'lost' or eaten by the TDF Lion.
macbindle said:thehog said:
Why of course
Partial release of data, yet again.
Do you have a link where they talk about it, please (not fact-checking you, just interested)
The Bots fail to see that it always seems to happen to Sky riders. Mostly the Dawg and Wigan that information is either 'lost' or eaten by the TDF Lion.
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There's an obvious undertone when you use the word 'blocked'. Here's what they actually said...
Contacted by Cyclingnews, Velon explained that they didn't publish Froome's data at the time because they didn't have it available. The Briton's live tracking system, as with that of numerous other riders, cut out at certain points on the stage and the data was incomplete in the immediate aftermath. With the help of Team Sky, they said, they then went back to 'piece the puzzle together'.
"We still have lots of work to do, and we know we missed some parts of the race that we, the fans and the riders wanted to see more of. We're working to improve but in the meantime we hope people enjoyed the story of the race from a perspective that no other sport in the world currently offers," Velon CEO Graham Bartlett said in a statement.
macbindle said:thehog said:
Why of course
Partial release of data, yet again.
Do you have a link where they talk about it, please (not fact-checking you, just interested)
There's an obvious undertone when you use the word 'blocked'. Here's what they actually said...
Contacted by Cyclingnews, Velon explained that they didn't publish Froome's data at the time because they didn't have it available. The Briton's live tracking system, as with that of numerous other riders, cut out at certain points on the stage and the data was incomplete in the immediate aftermath. With the help of Team Sky, they said, they then went back to 'piece the puzzle together'.
"We still have lots of work to do, and we know we missed some parts of the race that we, the fans and the riders wanted to see more of. We're working to improve but in the meantime we hope people enjoyed the story of the race from a perspective that no other sport in the world currently offers," Velon CEO Graham Bartlett said in a statement.
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Exactly which part of the stage did the actual data they released relate to?
thehog said:
Exactly which part of the stage did the actual data they released relate to?
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If I were Velon CEO, I wouldn't want to stress the inadequacy of my product ('it only works now and then'). Moreover, if Sky was really helpful, they would just release the data from their own log.brownbobby said:
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here we go - Froome changed his saddle for the stage - they,ll blame the different saddle for the loss of data.
Have just read the article where Velon have released a select piece of data. However a 3km stretch on the Finestre doesn't really paint much of an overall picture. It is like giving a 5-10 minute statistical breakdown in a football match, it doesn't give the overall picture. It does sound like more of a sales pitch for Velon rather than actually being designed to explain the numbers behind the performances. The heart rate for instance would be a very interesting statistic to release but we are told that this was not provided.
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thehog said:
This doesn't parse well. Who offered him that and from when? ASO certainly didn't.
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fmk_RoI said:
Not if it were 6 months from the AAF, but yes, if one is on the table surely both are.
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The actual Tweet, it should be noted, did not come from La Gazzetta. It came from a Spanish account, COPEdaleando. Doubtlessly the person who posted it to the Clinic did not mean to deliberately mislead. They just did it by accident.
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