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I agree with you to some extend. But I would argue that most of the professional cyclists have mental strength and a high work ethic just in order to make it as a pro. Of course Froome can be slightly more determined than his competitors, but it would still not explain his massive improvement and constant high level since 2011.
It might be the case, that he is simply more willing to go all in doping-wise, that distinguishes him from his competitors. In addition to the fact, that it seems, that whatever he is using is working extremely well for him.
DFA123 said:This is nonsense though. Even if he is on a massive full-scale doping programme, the like of which we have never seen, you still have to have incredible mental strength and motivation to continue dominating the sport for six years and counting. Countless dopers come along and do something impressive for a year or two before getting caught or just fading back to the pack.ahsoe said:dacooley said:the nature of august 2011 transformation will most certainly remain unsolved. thinking it had nothing to do with heavy doping program is idiotism, but ascribing 100% of froome's success to doping is nonsense ditto.macbindle said:94th in the Tour of Poland 2011.
3 weeks later nearly won the Vuelta. 2nd place with only 13 seconds difference.
Maybe Michelle hung up one of those motivational posters in the loo and that's what made the difference.
i presume one of the secrets is picking up doping cocktail which helped to master work on extremely small gearing. possibly top-end doping program revealed an ability of his cardiovascular system in a new way.
I think most in here acknowledge, that Froome as well as all other pro cyclists of course can improve in non-doping ways throughout their career. And of course Froome has done this also.
But one could argue, that without a heavy, in Froome's case, extremely effective doping program, he would still be way off his current level. All cyclists improve technique etc. during their career. And therefore, perhaps not 100% of his success, but close to it, is due to doping.
It's something very under-rated in Froome I think - the mental strength to fight his way to become a professional rider, given his background, and then to stay at the top of the sport for such a long time. It takes a resilience and toughness that most don't have. Wiggins, for example, could never have done what Froome has, even with identical clinical assistance
And this carries over into his training as well. He's won races, in part, thanks to taking time on the descents in the last couple of years. Something universally regarded to be a huge weakness of his when he first started winning GTs. Whatever he is taking, the guy also has an incredible work ethic and drive to improve and stay at the top.
I agree with you to some extend. But I would argue that most of the professional cyclists have mental strength and a high work ethic just in order to make it as a pro. Of course Froome can be slightly more determined than his competitors, but it would still not explain his massive improvement and constant high level since 2011.
It might be the case, that he is simply more willing to go all in doping-wise, that distinguishes him from his competitors. In addition to the fact, that it seems, that whatever he is using is working extremely well for him.