Garmin biggest cowards in today peloton

[Libertine Seguros]

Hehe, just because someone is from scandinavia doesn't mean that all "a" are missing an umlaut. His name is just Bak even in danish.

Hey, it's not just umlauts. It could have been å too

 

[pmcg76]

This is what I've been saying. Just like when Nick Nuyens won Flanders it wasnt tactical genius by his team either but a great individual effort.

I dont know how to do the multiple quote thing but this was your response to JMBeaushrimp who said that it a tactical fluke because Garmin got lucky that JVS was strong.

 

[hrotha]

Hey, it's not just umlauts. It could have been å too

Lars Ytting 'Bok'. Yeah, Bak is fine.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

I dont know how to do the multiple quote thing but this was your response to JMBeaushrimp who said that it a tactical fluke because Garmin got lucky that JVS was strong.

'Tactical fluke' may have been a poor choice of phrase...

More of a statement that Garmin benefited from a lot of the teams not racing too aggresively in the latter part of the race. As long as Canc was there, they were happy to be there, and no one wanted their efforts to benefit Canc.

After FC, Thor, and Ballan sat up and rejoined the group behind a little bit of work would have gone a long way. Not every team was represented in the break, but it seemed everyone was happy to roll along...

I'm not trying p*ss on Garmin. They were able to play it to their favour, that's racing... There are a few teams that should feel that they should have enacted a little different race plan (apart from "I'm with Fabian, good enough"), certainly not QuickStep... Talk about a crappy day allround for those boys, no luck but bad luck...

 

[sublimit]

I dont know how to do the multiple quote thing but this was your response to JMBeaushrimp who said that it a tactical fluke because Garmin got lucky that JVS was strong.

Why dont you have a go at him then?

I dont think it was a fluke but Garmin probably weren't expecting him to win due to Vanmarke chasing down with other Garmin rider as mentioned earlier.

The thing that Garmin did right was having riders in the front and following groups. Sky had Hayman in the front group, Stannard and Flecha in the second so the same tactics.
Vansummeren won, Hayman came position 10, Flecha 9. I was just hacked off with Hushovd being so passive considering he was one of the strongest riders there but it turns out I was wrong.

So Ok well done Garmin for the win and well done for the tactical brilliance shown by the team management. Funny to see Thor burned off by Eisel though at the end.
I'm out here untill next year.

 

[Dutchsmurf]

The tactics used by Garmin were just inconsistent. Why ride hard to get Hushovd back to the front, but stop doing that once you are into striking distance? And then start working again some minutes later. Why ride for Hushovd at all, when he couldn't stay close to Cancellara in the end? Garmin brought Cancellara to the podium, not sure how you can call that good tactics.
Vansummeren won, but he could have won it a lot easier if Garmin had had the courage to work for him once they were in the position to take out all favorites by stopping working. Seems like Garmin just couldn't adapt.

 

[Willy_Voet]

Jebus, this place is full of tardlets.

To anyone who thinks that Van Summeren wasn't a winning option in the team meeting hasn't followed cycling in the past 5 years. The guy has placed in the top 10 two or three times.

Garmin had Mapei/Domo/Quickstep tactics today - put everyone near the front and someone will win. Maybe they wanted Thor to win more than Van Summeren, but that's kind of like the Mapei years with Museeuw.

 

[ingsve]

The tactics used by Garmin were just inconsistent. Why ride hard to get Hushovd back to the front, but stop doing that once you are into striking distance? And then start working again some minutes later. Why ride for Hushovd at all, when he couldn't stay close to Cancellara in the end? Garmin brought Cancellara to the podium, not sure how you can call that good tactics.
Vansummeren won, but he could have won it a lot easier if Garmin had had the courage to work for him once they were in the position to take out all favorites by stopping working. Seems like Garmin just couldn't adapt.

Hushovd said he wasn't paying close enough attention when Cancellara attacked at the end so he reacted to slow to the attack and then it was too late.

As for the sprint for 7th, it's impossible to say what would have happened if it was a sprint for first instead. The motivation in the sprint is completely different.

 

[El Pistolero]

Jebus, this place is full of tardlets.

To anyone who thinks that Van Summeren wasn't a winning option in the team meeting hasn't followed cycling in the past 5 years. The guy has placed in the top 10 two or three times.

Garmin had Mapei/Domo/Quickstep tactics today - put everyone near the front and someone will win. Maybe they wanted Thor to win more than Van Summeren, but that's kind of like the Mapei years with Museeuw.

I didn't expect this from vansummeren because he hadn't ridden the week before. Perhaps you didn't follow cycling this few weeks.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Hushovd said he wasn't paying close enough attention when Cancellara attacked at the end so he reacted to slow to the attack and then it was too late.

As for the sprint for 7th, it's impossible to say what would have happened if it was a sprint for first instead. The motivation in the sprint is completely different.

Hushovd is a tool. Cancellara put his nuts on Thor's tonsils in this race. The only reaction Hushovd had was to crap his chammy when Cancellara smoked him like a cheap cigar.
And no, I'm not a big Cancellara fan, and I hate Leopard-Schleck, but Cancellara races like an extrater...I mean champion.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Garmin did absolutely nothing right in this Paris Roubaix.

They should count themself lucky Vansummeren was so strong and overcome his own teams crazy tactics.

It is god *** backwards *** to have Vanmarcke (and later Rasch) kill themself to keep Hushovd close, while Vansummeren is the front. It's even more *** that after Hushovd never took over at the first Cance attack, they let Vanmarcke kill himself AGAIN, to bring them closer.

What the #$^#$ is the point of that. If they had 1 teammate more and Vansummeren wouldn't have made it (because of his own teammates riding), then probably Cancellara would have won because of Garmin tactics.

Vaughters and Van Petegem failed in tactics today and should be kissing the ground for their luck with the amazing Vansummeren. They almost killed it off themselves.

Also, they didn't exactly win the heart of the fans by letting Hushovd ride so negatively

 

[pmcg76]

Hushovd is a tool. Cancellara put his nuts on Thor's tonsils in this race. The only reaction Hushovd had was to crap his chammy when Cancellara smoked him like a cheap cigar.

So when the race when was still up in the air, Cancellara couldnt drop Hushovd but when the race was over and Garmin had it, he managed to then drop Hushovd. Yeah, fanastic work Cancellara.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

If QS had not suffered such bad luck, Charmin-Cervelo would have fought to crack the top 10.

But hey, it was impressive how they worked for Cancellara to almost catch Vansummeren. Good job, Captain Sideburns.

 

[Mambo95]

Garmin did absolutely nothing right in this Paris Roubaix.

They should count themself lucky Vansummeren was so strong and overcome his own teams crazy tactics.

It is god *** backwards *** to have Vanmarcke (and later Rasch) kill themself to keep Hushovd close, while Vansummeren is the front. It's even more *** that after Hushovd never took over at the first Cance attack, they let Vanmarcke kill himself AGAIN, to bring them closer.

What the #$^#$ is the point of that. If they had 1 teammate more and Vansummeren wouldn't have made it (because of his own teammates riding), then probably Cancellara would have won because of Garmin tactics.

Vaughters and Van Petegem failed in tactics today and should be kissing the ground for their luck with the amazing Vansummeren. They almost killed it off themselves.

Also, they didn't exactly win the heart of the fans by letting Hushovd ride so negatively

Yeah, it was pure dumb luck that someone who came 5th in 2009 and 8th in 2008 miraculously turned out to be good at Paris-Roubaix. Don't you think Garmin were quite well aware that he had the best PR pedigree of anyone in the front group? Anyone with half a brain knew that.

 

[Benotti69]

Yeah, it was pure dumb luck that someone who came 5th in 2009 and 8th in 2008 miraculously turned out to be good at Paris-Roubaix. Don't you think Garmin were quite well aware that he had the best PR pedigree of anyone in the front group? Anyone with half a brain knew that.

brains and Rabofans don't necessarily go hand in hand

 

[roundabout]

Vansummeren is very-very good in Roubaix but he didn't have the best buildup to the race

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yeah, it was pure dumb luck that someone who came 5th in 2009 and 8th in 2008 miraculously turned out to be good at Paris-Roubaix. Don't you think Garmin were quite well aware that he had the best PR pedigree of anyone in the front group? Anyone with half a brain knew that.

You didn't read.
Try again.

It was pure luck Vansummeren won, because his own team almost brought Cancellara to close. His OWN TEAM... was chasing behind him all the time...

God you people are just failing to see it.
I never questioned Vansummerens strength, but HIS OWN TEAM DID!

Get the point now?
Brains and Garmin fans don't seem to mix

 

[c&cfan]

You didn't read.
Try again.

It was pure luck Vansummeren won, because his own team almost brought Cancellara to close. His OWN TEAM... was chasing behind him all the time...

God you people are just failing to see it.
I never questioned Vansummerens strength, but HIS OWN TEAM DID!

Get the point now?
Brains and Garmin fans don't seem to mix

you are totally right. but do you want to know nothing? i was still surprised by canc's power. one more lap in the velodrome and canc takes it. never saw anything like that..

 

[Astana1]

Jebus, this place is full of tardlets.

To anyone who thinks that Van Summeren wasn't a winning option in the team meeting hasn't followed cycling in the past 5 years. The guy has placed in the top 10 two or three times.

Garmin had Mapei/Domo/Quickstep tactics today - put everyone near the front and someone will win. Maybe they wanted Thor to win more than Van Summeren, but that's kind of like the Mapei years with Museeuw.

I agree. But Garmin almost encountered catastrophic success this afternoon. They had a couple of good winning options but it seemed like they couldn't commit to one.

And anyone who thinks that Garmin didn't do anything right is either biased or a total moron.

 

[Dutchsmurf]

Yeah, it was pure dumb luck that someone who came 5th in 2009 and 8th in 2008 miraculously turned out to be good at Paris-Roubaix. Don't you think Garmin were quite well aware that he had the best PR pedigree of anyone in the front group? Anyone with half a brain knew that.

Actually, they admitted (during the interview at Sporza) they weren't counting on Vansummeren until it became clear they weren't going to catch him anymore. Which was at the point he attacked and got solo. If the rest of Garmin had been stronger or someone else had helped, Cancellara would have won.

 

[Chuffy]

Garmin did absolutely nothing right in this Paris Roubaix.

Wow, yeah, you're right. Winning isn't nearly enough. They should have put five guys on the podium, solved world poverty and scored a No 1 hit single at the same time.

Haters gotta hate....

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

That;s nothing what Garmin did, but Vansummeren

Vansummeren can credit this win 100% to himself and 0% to the team.

 

[Chuffy]

That;s nothing what Garmin did, but Vansummeren

Vansummeren can credit this win 100% to himself and 0% to the team.

+1
Because it was the sheer power of Van Summeren's deoderant that stopped Thor from chasing him down when the gap was 25sec. Nothing to do with tactics or common sense.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Garmin did absolutely nothing right in this Paris Roubaix.

They should count themself lucky Vansummeren was so strong and overcome his own teams crazy tactics.

It is god *** backwards *** to have Vanmarcke (and later Rasch) kill themself to keep Hushovd close, while Vansummeren is the front. It's even more *** that after Hushovd never took over at the first Cance attack, they let Vanmarcke kill himself AGAIN, to bring them closer.

What the #$^#$ is the point of that. If they had 1 teammate more and Vansummeren wouldn't have made it (because of his own teammates riding), then probably Cancellara would have won because of Garmin tactics.

Vaughters and Van Petegem failed in tactics today and should be kissing the ground for their luck with the amazing Vansummeren. They almost killed it off themselves.

Also, they didn't exactly win the heart of the fans by letting Hushovd ride so negatively

You appear to miss that Hushvold riding 'negatively' was the key reason Van Summeren stayed away.

Cancellara was clearly the strongest and could have (& almost did) closed the gap on his own, so all TH needed to do was match any Cancellara effort.

 

[Astana1]

That;s nothing what Garmin did, but Vansummeren

Vansummeren can credit this win 100% to himself and 0% to the team.

Yeah +1

Servais Knaven just called. He said that his win 100% him as well.