Garmin biggest cowards in today peloton

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Zinoviev Letter said:
I'd point you towards this:

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/cqRankingTeam.asp?year=2011

Which shows that Garmin are coming second in CQ rankings so far this year. Or this:

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/cqRankingTeam.asp?year=9999

Which shows that over the last 12 months, they are coming first in CQ rankings, but I can see that mere facts aren't going to have much currency in this discussion.

Well you shouldn't look at the 12month data, as that includes results earned by their signings.

If you take away January, they would be considerably lower. They haven't had any huge results since then, beyond Heinrich and Tyler in sprints. So far, they have underperformed where it's mattered, and failed to capitalise on their biggest strength (their northern classics team). Most people would have expected bigger results from their campaign than a few placings in sprints from Farrar, maybe they can salvage something on Sunday.
 
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Seriously, the problem with Garmin is JV! The boys can't take him seriously.. imagine that guy shouting orders at you! With his spectacles, fancy frockery, and facial hair disaster! I like diversity more than most people, and I wouldn't care what JV looked like if his team wasn't sucking so hard, but he needs to step it up a notch and look like a serious director! I'm just worried about his team losing funding.. watching clips of him making excuses just makes me face palm! If I was giving THAT guy millions of dollars I'd feel like a fool!
 
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The problem with Garmin, is the same problem BMC had last year: their riders form isn't good enough.

11 HUSHOVD Thor
12 FARRAR Tyler
13 HAMMOND Roger
14 HAUSSLER Heinrich
15 KLIER Andreas
16 MAASKANT Martijn
17 MILLAR David
18 VANSUMMEREN Johan

Every single one of them should be able to finnish top 10 in rvv when in good form...
 
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Buffalo Soldier said:
The problem with Garmin, is the same problem BMC had last year: their riders form isn't good enough.

11 HUSHOVD Thor
12 FARRAR Tyler
13 HAMMOND Roger
14 HAUSSLER Heinrich
15 KLIER Andreas
16 MAASKANT Martijn
17 MILLAR David
18 VANSUMMEREN Johan

Every single one of them should be able to finnish top 10 in rvv when in good form...

I disagree, everyone but george didn't get a result in any cobbled classic. The results george got were from having good form but not great form. Roubaix suits George more and he was not great that day at all.
 
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hrotha said:
Don't blame Tommy when he isn't even riding. He was just stolen a RVV by not being selected to start. Honestly I don't see where Cancellara or Gilbert could have dropped him.

In Bruges?
 
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roundabout said:
Nah, for once they did everything right.

they did everything wrong but were lucky. the only reason vansummeren got in front was the attack from bak, which he had to counter like every attack and tjallingii and rast were there too. if that hadn;t happened cancellara's group would;'ve gotten back and then what???
 
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roundabout said:
What were the other options?

Ride with Cancellara and go down fighting. Something else?

it was clear garmin was all for hushovd. rasch let himself drop back to work and also vanmarcke, but when cancellara was within 20 seconds hushovd refused to take over some relays, that doesn't make any sense at all.so they wait up and vanmarcke gets back and starts pacing again while in front vansummeren only countered attacks and waited. it means they rode defensive in every way

yes they won which is what counts but most imbecile tactic I've ever seen.
 
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Their tactics were worse than last week actually, luckily for them Vansummeren was really strong.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
it was clear garmin was all for hushovd. rasch let himself drop back to work and also vanmarcke, but when cancellara was within 20 seconds hushovd refused to take over some relays, that doesn't make any sense at all.so they wait up and vanmarcke gets back and starts pacing again while in front vansummeren only countered attacks and waited. it means they rode defensive in every way

yes they won which is what counts but most imbecile tactic I've ever seen.

It is a good job JVS was able to stay out there (just), because Hushovd didn't even win the sprint for 6th.
 
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roundabout said:
IMO they wanted to cover both options - the big break and Hushovd. Hushovd looked ok with Cancellara and they had 3(?) people in the front.

they only had vansummerne in the front as they let the other riders drop back to help hushivd, but hushovd showed what a loser he is by not daring to ride a few pulls so they would've been back. basiclaly hushovd put up a middle finger to the work vanmarcke and rasch did for him.
 
Had they caught the group it would have been all over.

Cancellara is better than Hushovd, period.

Edit: come to think of it, i am going to revise my opinion - Garmin should have kept all 3 in the break and ignored Hushovd
 
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Nothing ventured nothing gained.. And yes I agree with Ryo (again :eek:) that Hushovd pulled the finger to the work his team did for him.