Garmin Transitions and Cervelo to merge?

[ingsve]

What I have heard (from Hushovd's trainer, who may or may not be completely mistaken) is that Hushovd has a personal contract with Cervelo for one more year, so no matter what team he choses they will have to use cervelo bikes...which would mean that Garmin in reality is the only option.

Well, contracts can almost always be broken or paid out etc so nothing is ever set in stone.

 

[ingsve]

Hushovd say he has been contacted by 8-10 teams, and that it is far from sure that he will sign with Garmin. He is curently negotiating with several teams...

In Norwegian:
http://www.nrksport.no/sykkel/1.7267185

The interesting thing is that there are 8-10 teams that feel they have the budget take on someone like Hushovd this late in the transfer season which should suggest that there could still be plenty of room for uncontracted riders out there.

 

[Walshworld]

Hushovd and Haussler may not fit at Garmin. Not funny enough.

It's all about team chemistry at Garmin. The team is known for their comedy from Vaughters on down. The reason the contracts haven't happened yet is the background checks -- are these two guys gonna make Garmin even funnier?
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[Race Radio]

Garmin will also be running the womens team.

 

[Dutchsmurf]

The real losers here could once again be the French. Never renowned for huge budgets, several also face being frozen out of their national events.

Will this spark another ASO/UCI turf war, I wonder?

Not really, the real losers are the smaller teams outside France. Because we all know ASO will invite the French teams anyway.

 

[JRTinMA]

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Garmin is already at or near the maximum allowable riders if I count the riders from there website. I think its 28 but i know the number varies based on some calculation using neo-pros that I don't understand. I don't see how they can take any Cervelo riders without getting rid of a bunch of current riders. This whole thing is bad all around and gives me another good reason not to ever buy a Cervelo and I need a TT bike.

Do I have this right?

(Edit) I forgot they signed or announced Le Mevel too so thats even less room.

 

[Oldman]

Garmin is already at or near the maximum allowable riders if I count the riders from there website. I think its 28 but i know the number varies based on some calculation using neo-pros that I don't understand. I don't see how they can take any Cervelo riders without getting rid of a bunch of current riders. This whole thing is bad all around and gives me another good reason not to ever buy a Cervelo and I need a TT bike.

Do I have this right?

(Edit) I forgot they signed or announced Le Mevel too so thats even less room.

I like my Felt DR and they'll probably be cheaper now.

 

[TheDude]

Garmin is already at or near the maximum allowable riders if I count the riders from there website. I think its 28 but i know the number varies based on some calculation using neo-pros that I don't understand. I don't see how they can take any Cervelo riders without getting rid of a bunch of current riders. This whole thing is bad all around and gives me another good reason not to ever buy a Cervelo and I need a TT bike.

Do I have this right?

(Edit) I forgot they signed or announced Le Mevel too so thats even less room.

30 I think, but either way, not going to swallow-up the entire team.

 

[rxgqgxnyfz]

Seeing how they're dropping Transitions from team's name, can we hope we won't see this "hi i'm tyler farrar" ads ever again?
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[DAOTEC]

Double press release a full and equal merger ...

New name to be "Garmin-Cervélo" in 2011


August 27, 20:22| http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/new-name-for-combined-team-garmin-cervelo-for-2011

Aug 27th 2010 3:52 PM EDT | http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/08/road/press-release-garmin-and-cervelo-to-be-garmin-cervelo-in-2011_136781

Wonder how the jersey will look like ?

 

[JRTinMA]

30 I think, but either way, not going to swallow-up the entire team.

There goes that sweet lead out train I was dreaming about!

 

[JRTinMA]

Seeing how they're dropping Transitions from team's name, can we hope we won't see this "hi i'm tyler farrar" ads ever again?

Nope, they are staying on as a sponsor according to the PR.

 

[ingsve]

Garmin is already at or near the maximum allowable riders if I count the riders from there website. I think its 28 but i know the number varies based on some calculation using neo-pros that I don't understand. I don't see how they can take any Cervelo riders without getting rid of a bunch of current riders. This whole thing is bad all around and gives me another good reason not to ever buy a Cervelo and I need a TT bike.

Do I have this right?

(Edit) I forgot they signed or announced Le Mevel too so thats even less room.

A team almost never keeps all their riders from the previous season so their current number is irrelevant. There is usually riders leaving for better offers and better opportunities and in a case like this there are probably riders out of contract who would want to stay but that won't get renewed.

Garmin had a fairly uneven quality roster with some great stars and some riders who haven't done much of anything so there are certainly riders that can be let loose without difficulty.

I read somewhere that they currently have 23 riders contracted for next year so that leaves 7 spots yet to be filled.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Hushovd won't go to garmin, that's for sure. Why would he go on a team with farrar?

 

[dsut4392]

Hushovd won't go to garmin, that's for sure. Why would he go on a team with farrar?

I don't see those two as being in direct competition. Hushovd for the classics , Farrar for the GT pure sprint finishes could work. Hushovd's days as a top fast finisher seem to be over anyway. Even if you stuck them on the same GT team, Hushovd could do his usual thing of hoovering up intermediate points, then as last man in the lead-out for Farrar would still likely pick up a few more, and not necessarily in a much worse finishing position than he has been of late.

Big question I guess is could his ego take not being the top dog sprinter?

 

[TheDude]

I don't see those two as being in direct competition. Hushovd for the classics , Farrar for the GT pure sprint finishes could work. Hushovd's days as a top fast finisher seem to be over anyway. Even if you stuck them on the same GT team, Hushovd could do his usual thing of hoovering up intermediate points, then as last man in the lead-out for Farrar would still likely pick up a few more, and not necessarily in a much worse finishing position than he has been of late.

Big question I guess is could his ego take not being the top dog sprinter?

I agree, Hushovd 3 to 5 years ago would have been Farrar competition, but not now. Huschovd is a strong, but no longer explosive sprinter. Man he would make a great lead-out man if he would do it.

 

[JRTinMA]

A team almost never keeps all their riders from the previous season so their current number is irrelevant. There is usually riders leaving for better offers and better opportunities and in a case like this there are probably riders out of contract who would want to stay but that won't get renewed.

Garmin had a fairly uneven quality roster with some great stars and some riders who haven't done much of anything so there are certainly riders that can be let loose without difficulty.

I read somewhere that they currently have 23 riders contracted for next year so that leaves 7 spots yet to be filled.

Its almost September, while you say its irrelevant I would say if you didn't have a job because of this merger it would not be irrelevant. I did some poking around on the net and I think they only have 27 spots as they have no neo pros. They have 26 riders under agreement and a deal with Le Mevel makes 27. Anybody they take from Cervelo they have to cut a rider. Not cool this late in the year.

 

[craig1985]

And I offer a third opinion: I like both. More Garmin argyle in blue and orange! It's the one truly distinctive jersey in the peloton and it just screams "wholesome."







What? You dare question the integrity of Pat McQuaid? Why, the whole world knows him to be an honest broker and a paragon of transparency in cycling. And, lest you forget, he is on a first name basis with Lance Armstrong. Surely you jest.



Do you think they'd be roommates?



I've wondered about this, too. The opportunity presents itself to scarf up several highly talented riders, and perhaps you take more than you can comfortably fit, just because the temptation is too great? Still, it must be a good problem to have.

For entertainment purposes I insist that this is the case.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I don't see those two as being in direct competition. Hushovd for the classics , Farrar for the GT pure sprint finishes could work. Hushovd's days as a top fast finisher seem to be over anyway. Even if you stuck them on the same GT team, Hushovd could do his usual thing of hoovering up intermediate points, then as last man in the lead-out for Farrar would still likely pick up a few more, and not necessarily in a much worse finishing position than he has been of late.

Big question I guess is could his ego take not being the top dog sprinter?

That's why he won't go to garmin.

 

[kjetilraknerud]

According to Hushovd, winning a big classic is his primary goal - more important than the green jersey. So he probably wouldn't mind too much being on the same team as Farrar. In that sense, I think Hushovd/Haussler is a more direct competition than Hushovd/Farrar.

In norwegian (The same article mentions that he turned down an offer from Radioshack.)

 

[ingsve]

Looks like one of the things that Hushovd is negotiating about is to get Gabriel Rasch with him to whichever team he chooses. I think that may be one of the few things that could potentially stop him from signing with Garmin eventhough Garmin seems to be the closest right now. Few teams would be able to match the type of Roubaix team that Garmin would have with all the Cervélo guys so the realistic options are probably few.

 

[luckyboy]

Should be pretty interesting to see where all these guys end up now.

 

[Unlikely]

Rollin (team Cervelo) is Canadian. Cervelo is a Canadian company. Garmin already has 3 Canadians (Tuft, Ryder, Meier). I can't imagine they've got room for all four. Are Meier and Rollin out?

 

[pedaling squares]

Rollin (team Cervelo) is Canadian. Cervelo is a Canadian company. Garmin already has 3 Canadians (Tuft, Ryder, Meier). I can't imagine they've got room for all four. Are Meier and Rollin out?

IF G-C signs Hushovd and Haussler there may be limited money left to compete with contract offers these guys might find elsewhere. Of course there will be some savings on CVV's salary. Rollin might find himself stuck on the B grade team forever if Farrar, Hushovd, and Haussler were all on the G-C roster.

 

[pedaling squares]

This whole thing is bad all around and gives me another good reason not to ever buy a Cervelo and I need a TT bike.

I don't see a reason to blame the bike company. They said that changes by the UCI made them unable to operate their own team. According to Vaughters, Felt exercised their option to leave. Garmin-Cervelo seems like a natural fit. Think of the riders and support staff who would have lost out entirely if the team folded. Plus, they are one of the few sponsors who operates a womens team, they actually seem interested in more than the mens side of the sport or, like some sponsors, one rider.