GC Power Ranking

[Netserk]

You put Landa and not Remco? Wild take!

Obvious take.

Landa was ready from the start of the season to race for GC, and was probably the third biggest favourite for the Giro before his crash.

 

[Breh]

update post Valencia:

1. Evenepoel

(big distance)


2. Pogacar (won't win a single GC in the coming 3 months but cycling loves legacy results I guess)


(big distance)


3. Almeida
4. Pellizarri (better than Almeida but victim of team tactics)
5. Vingegaard (Evenepoel dodger)
6. Vine

X: Veistroffer
X+1: A. Yates

 

[Netserk]

(won't win a single GC in the coming 3 months but cycling loves legacy results I guess)

very bold

but he will be up against rogla, so it wont be easy

 

[Ilmaestro99]

update post Valencia:

1. Evenepoel

(big distance)


2. Pogacar (won't win a single GC in the coming 3 months but cycling loves legacy results I guess)


(big distance)


3. Almeida
4. Pellizarri (better than Almeida but victim of team tactics)
5. Vingegaard (Evenepoel dodger)
6. Vine

X: Veistroffer
X+1: A. Yates

Paul double? Above yates and vingegard for sure

 

[Breh]

Paul double? Above yates and vingegard for sure

I would rank him 4.5th (better than Almeida but victim of team tactics)

I will update after a random Ruta Del Sol stage.

 

[Breh]

As promised:

In case of broken AC and alarm clocks randomly going off this is the new 100% objective and factual GC power ranking:

1. Landa (been like 7months since he last lost a GC)
2. UAE rider (agree)
3. Tiberi & Ayuso & Seixas & Gee-West & Pogacar (legacy)
4. Plapp - Vingegaard

6. Random Astana rider

8. Mathys Rondel & Ewen Costiou

11. Vauquelin

13. Van Wilder pre crash
14. Evenepoel

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Quoting this here. The real debate is 2 and 3

At this rate...
Tier 1 is Pogacar
Tier 2 is Vingegaard
Tier 3 is Seixas
Tier 4 is You Don't Deserve A Tier Because You'll Never Win Again

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Quoting this here. The real debate is 2 and 3

I was not 100% serious in that post, as should be obvious from tier 4.

Obviously we are almost certainly transitioning from a clear top-2 to a clear top-3, but when we haven't seen the incoming #3 race a GT yet (or race a GC against the existing top-2, for that matter) and we also haven't seen the most obvious pick for #3 at the end of last season get to do a proper climb while healthy this season, it's impossible to accurately assess how far that transition has progressed. And even if we're including one-week races in a power ranking (which I never have in this thread), putting someone who hasn't won a professional stage race yet and lost one to Ayuso six weeks ago ahead of Vingegaard is wildly premature.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

I was not 100% serious in that post, as should be obvious from tier 4.

Obviously we are almost certainly transitioning from a clear top-2 to a clear top-3, but when we haven't seen the incoming #3 race a GT yet (or race a GC against the existing top-2, for that matter) and we also haven't seen the most obvious pick for #3 at the end of last season get to do a proper climb while healthy this season, it's impossible to accurately assess how far that transition has progressed. And even if we're including one-week races in a power ranking (which I never have in this thread), putting someone who hasn't won a professional stage race yet and lost one to Ayuso six weeks ago ahead of Vingegaard is wildly premature.

I know you were being facetious but it was sadly likely not far from the truth, so I quoted it here as a somewhat facetious but also serious endorsement and conversation starter.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I know you were being facetious but it was sadly likely not far from the truth, so I quoted it here as a somewhat facetious but also serious endorsement and conversation starter.

The problem is that we have a lack of data points to change our end of 2025 assessments right now, and new ones are in equally short supply for the next few months. Which means that this conversation will be much more speculative than it is analytical until the Tour.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

People are already betting on who will win next year’s NCAA men’s championship even though the game just happened yesterday (apologies for the very US centric reference). The bar does not need to be so high for a light hearted, speculative quoted post, does it? But if you want me to delete the quoted post, no problem, I will.

 

[canina82]

But there is anyone who believes Seixas is not a GT rider too? He will show already in July, he is the third best GC and GT rider (and I'm not sure about Jonas).