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Very curious. Norvo Nordisk had 17 riders in 2014, leaving 7 TUEs. Dowsett and his haemophilia leaves 6. Are there any other riders that need TUEs to compete safely? And I don't mean asthma.Jacques de Molay said:Just noticed this on the UCI site. Interesting.
http://www.uci.ch/clean-sport/therapeutic-use-exemptions/
8. Number of TUEs annually granted by the UCI
Year - TUEs granted
2009 - 239
2010 - 97
2011 - 56
2012 - 47
2013 - 30
2014 - 24
42x16ss said:Very curious. Norvo Nordisk had 17 riders in 2014, leaving 7 TUEs. Dowsett and his haemophilia leaves 6. Are there any other riders that need TUEs to compete safely? And I don't mean asthma.Jacques de Molay said:Just noticed this on the UCI site. Interesting.
http://www.uci.ch/clean-sport/therapeutic-use-exemptions/
8. Number of TUEs annually granted by the UCI
Year - TUEs granted
2009 - 239
2010 - 97
2011 - 56
2012 - 47
2013 - 30
2014 - 24
Not so. I just looked into that.Zinoviev Letter said:I can only assume that this is the number of new TUEs granted each year and that previously existing TUE's don't automatically expire annually.
6.12
Each TUE will have a specified duration, as decided by the TUEC [TUE Committee], at the end of which the TUE will expire automatically. If the Rider needs to continue to Use the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method after the expiry date, he/she must submit an application for a new TUE well in advance of that expiry date, so that there is sufficient time for a decision to be made on the application before the expiry date.
6.16
In the event that, after his/her TUE is granted, the Rider requires a materially different dosage, frequency, route or duration of Administration of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method to that specified in the TUE, he/she must apply for a new TUE. If the presence, Use, Possession or Administration of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is not consistent with the terms of the TUE granted, the fact that the Rider has the TUE will not prevent the finding of an anti-doping rule violation.
Jacques de Molay said:Those numbers are pretty compelling, although I'm not sure exactly what they tell us.
Are most riders simply no longer in need of extra-help?
Are they finding more effective ways to bypass the system altogether?
It would also be interesting to know how many TUE requests were made, but not granted.
(Besides the dozen or so presumably put forward by Chris Horner)
42x16ss said:Very curious. Norvo Nordisk had 17 riders in 2014, leaving 7 TUEs. Dowsett and his haemophilia leaves 6. Are there any other riders that need TUEs to compete safely? And I don't mean asthma.Jacques de Molay said:Just noticed this on the UCI site. Interesting.
http://www.uci.ch/clean-sport/therapeutic-use-exemptions/
8. Number of TUEs annually granted by the UCI
Year - TUEs granted
2009 - 239
2010 - 97
2011 - 56
2012 - 47
2013 - 30
2014 - 24
Jacques de Molay said:Those numbers are pretty compelling, although I'm not sure exactly what they tell us.
Are most riders simply no longer in need of extra-help?
Are they finding more effective ways to bypass the system altogether?
It would also be interesting to know how many TUE requests were made, but not granted.
(Besides the dozen or so presumably put forward by Chris Horner)
That made me sick reading that....blackcat said:Joe Papp blood thinner doping http://velonews.competitor.com/2007/08/coaches-panel/ask-the-doctor-the-medical-risks-of-doping_13149
Anyone that gets caught riding their bike on Oxycodone should get charged with Operating under the influence, by a criminal court. Robert's lucky that all he got was a ban from competition.Catwhoorg said:http://www.usada.org/robert-lea-accepts-doping-sanction/
USADA announced today that a three-member panel of the American Arbitration Association North American Court of Arbitration for Sport (AAA), rendered its decision in the case of cyclist Robert Lea, finding that Lea committed an anti-doping rule violation, and will serve a 16-month suspension.
Oxycodone
Full decision:
http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADA-Bobby-Lea-Modified-Operative-Interim-Award-12-15-15.pdf
42x16ss said:Very curious. Norvo Nordisk had 17 riders in 2014, leaving 7 TUEs. Dowsett and his haemophilia leaves 6. Are there any other riders that need TUEs to compete safely? And I don't mean asthma.Jacques de Molay said:Just noticed this on the UCI site. Interesting.
http://www.uci.ch/clean-sport/therapeutic-use-exemptions/
8. Number of TUEs annually granted by the UCI
Year - TUEs granted
2009 - 239
2010 - 97
2011 - 56
2012 - 47
2013 - 30
2014 - 24
Thanks for the clarification.Catwhoorg said:II believe the positive came at a track event, but otherwise, yes.
Bike are vehicles and DUI can come into play.
TourOfSardinia said:Matteo Rabbotini aims to return 6 may 2016 - see the Gazzetta
http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/06-01-2016/rabottini-una-fiala-300-euro-sono-andato-inferno-140172449120.shtml
Sob story in brief: "One 300€ vial and I've been to hell"
I was desperate.
An ex Pro from East europe sold me the EPO.
I'm left only with my son - my parents have abandoned me.
I gave the names, now I want to begin again.
I have to pay €91K fine to get a licence.
I'll take out a loan.
Apparently he "confessed" over Skype with the UCI in Dec 2014
He is not outblackcat said:sounds like bullsh!t
the sport may have done him a favour by tossing him out. he was the scapegoat who was saved from the cesspool #Zeno'sParadox
arthurvandelay said:As a physician (Anesthesia and Critical Care Medicine) I evaluate patients all of the time who take prescription narcotics. Most have legitimate need to use these substances, some do not. The ones who don't are a different breed in terms of their behavior. Patients who abuse Tramadol are very difficult to take care of as they have (IMHO) an "edge" about them. They are very jittery and react strangely to stimuli and surgical operative stress. I am guessing that Tramadol helps dull muscle pain in pro cycling and has become popular in the peloton for this reason. I can't imagine what it does to ones judgement.
vedrafjord said:arthurvandelay said:As a physician (Anesthesia and Critical Care Medicine) I evaluate patients all of the time who take prescription narcotics. Most have legitimate need to use these substances, some do not. The ones who don't are a different breed in terms of their behavior. Patients who abuse Tramadol are very difficult to take care of as they have (IMHO) an "edge" about them. They are very jittery and react strangely to stimuli and surgical operative stress. I am guessing that Tramadol helps dull muscle pain in pro cycling and has become popular in the peloton for this reason. I can't imagine what it does to ones judgement.
Tramadol is not an opiate i.e. it's not a molecule of a certain shape extracted from poppies but it's an opioid - it has the same painkilling mechanism of action as opiates i.e. through the mu-opioid receptor.
What's odd about tramadol is that it has a second mechanism of action - it blocks serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake which is something more associated with antidepressants. I was given it after I went over the handlebars and broke my elbow into several pieces many years ago. I noticed a small but definite stimulant/anti-fatigue edge to it probably connected to the second mechanism.
So: allows you to push through the accumulated aches and niggles of a bike or especially stage race, plus an energy boost, plus legal -> damn right it's going to be abused.
What I don't get is that codeine is banned in-competition even though it's the same pain-killing strength as tramadol, with none of the weird stimulant/anti-depressant properties. Maybe it's because a small portion of codeine is converted to morphine in the liver, which would open the door to people taking morphine and saying they took codeine - you'd probably have to test for multiple metabolites to figure out what someone actually took.
Anyway tramadol is really old-school doping in a way - helps you push your limits a bit more, but doesn't actually change your abilities the way EPO or transfusions or AICAR would. It should probably be banned but in terms of cleaning up the sport it's pretty irrelevant compared to blood doping.