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Just 22-year-old czech track rider Ondřej Rybín just received 4 year ban for EPO. He was 3rd in the U23 Euro championship scratch race this summer.

He admitted the EPO doping and announced that he is quitting cycling. Perhaps he knows that he got no chance without juice.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaža_Klemenčič

Klemenčič was provisionally suspended by UCI in September 2015 for an EPO positive from a sample collected on 27 March 2012.[2][3]

Slovenian Female mountain biker, xc and marathon disciplines. Even with the positive test in spring 2012 she raced London OG in 2012 and her web site says she is on the path for Rio.

3.5 years from test date to sanction? That's almost a full Olympic cycle.

(interesting) Update:

http://www.velovert.com/information/10537/klemencic-positive-trois-ans-apres

google translated

Blaza Klemencic has been suspended with immediate effect by the UCI, pending a possible request for an assessment of the sample B. The out of competition suffered by the Slovenian (35) does not date from the last few weeks, but March 27, 2012. The urine sample Klemencic had tested negative at the time, but it was again analyzed in early September, this time with new detection methods: traces of EPO were therefore this time been found.

There are three, Blaza Klemencic was wearing the colors of Team Felt Oetztal X-Bionic. This season, she won the bronze medal at the European Championships and took 15th place at the world championships. After the announcement of the positive control, the Slovenian was immediately suspended by his team Team MTB Habitat, beating the Dutch flag. Robert Pintaric, compaganon athlete and assistant director of the structure, was also dismissed provisionally. If this doping case is confirmed, this is further evidence that samples can "talk" years later. A deterrent against potential cheaters. To be continued ...
 

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Anaconda said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaža_Klemenčič

Klemenčič was provisionally suspended by UCI in September 2015 for an EPO positive from a sample collected on 27 March 2012.[2][3]

Slovenian Female mountain biker, xc and marathon disciplines. Even with the positive test in spring 2012 she raced London OG in 2012 and her web site says she is on the path for Rio.

3.5 years from test date to sanction? That's almost a full Olympic cycle.
She came in 23rd in the 2012 OG womens mountain bike cross country... 23rd!!

23rd!

Makes you wonder (not that there was any doubt) what the top 10's blood contained?
 
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irondan said:
Anaconda said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaža_Klemenčič

Klemenčič was provisionally suspended by UCI in September 2015 for an EPO positive from a sample collected on 27 March 2012.[2][3]

Slovenian Female mountain biker, xc and marathon disciplines. Even with the positive test in spring 2012 she raced London OG in 2012 and her web site says she is on the path for Rio.

3.5 years from test date to sanction? That's almost a full Olympic cycle.
She came in 23rd in the 2012 OG womens mountain bike cross country... 23rd!!

23rd!

Makes you wonder (not that there was any doubt) what the top 10's blood contained?
makes me wonder what's the sample selection algorithm
 
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WADA sign historic agreement with Chinese sports ministry.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/34334647

This was the part that stood out for me:

"The information collected is of huge value to anti-doping authorities."

The information collected. Wonder if that includes historical details of who bought what over the 'net and when? If it does, there might be a few sweaty palms right now in the world of pro sports.
 
Milano-Torino

UCI guys forget to bring beakers to the race
riders pee into coffee cups


Cycle Sport
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UCI dope control forget beakers for samples after Milan-Turin (true). Winner Diego Rosa obliged to pee into series of espresso cups
 

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pastronef said:
Milano-Torino

UCI guys forget to bring beakers to the race
riders pee into coffee cups


Cycle Sport
‏@cyclesportmag

UCI dope control forget beakers for samples after Milan-Turin (true). Winner Diego Rosa obliged to pee into series of espresso cups
Stay classy UCI.....
 
Sep 29, 2012
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No point in even taking the sample. Contamination defense would win instantly. That they continued the collection looks shoddy as hell.
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
No point in even taking the sample. Contamination defense would win instantly. That they continued the collection looks shoddy as hell.
Exactly.

If you don't have the correct, sealed collection vessels and sample containers, don't even bother.
 
pastronef said:
Milano-Torino

UCI guys forget to bring beakers to the race
riders pee into coffee cups


Cycle Sport
‏@cyclesportmag

UCI dope control forget beakers for samples after Milan-Turin (true). Winner Diego Rosa obliged to pee into series of espresso cups
A guy who writes for Cycle Sport just said on twitter he wrote this and that it was a joke :confused: he says it amazes him how many people believed it

To be honest he could have tweeted that they'd forgotten the syringes and used a blunt knife to collect some blood and I would have believed it, this is cycling after all.
 
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The Carrot said:
'Two beagles created using the CRISPR technology were customised to be born with double the amount of muscles as a typical dog.'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/11943103/Chinese-scientists-create-designer-dogs-by-genetic-engineering.html

Anyone hazard a guess at to where this is going?
Well for starters, I would hope the journalist is going no-where: "born with double the amount of muscles as a typical dog": even apart from the wrong preposition (as should surely be of) what additional bones are these additional muscles attached to? Double the amount of muscle mass/fibre, fine, but that sub-heading is subliterate. Building contractors wouldn't employ carpenters that can't use a saw: why do newspapers employ journalists that can't use the language? [/rant]
 
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Just stumbled across this and thought to share.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221126691500016X

I've not access to the full study, but the abstract does give some numbers to athletes perception of anti-doping systems, and Tue's. The study was, amongst others used in a conference "taking the side of the athletes" if one can say that.

French speaking athletes’ experience and perception regarding anti-doping control practices and therapeutic use exemptions

Two main elements of anti-doping efforts by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), the obligation to inform on whereabouts in the Anti-Doping Administration and Management System (ADAMS) and the Therapeutic Use Exemption rule (TUE), directly affect athletes’ lives. Little is known about athletes’ perception and experience. French-speaking elite athletes (n = 69) from France, Belgium and Switzerland responded to an anonymous web-based questionnaire. We found strong ambivalence towards the whereabouts system. Some 94% considered anti-doping controls necessary, accepting them as part of athlete's duties; 34% considered that the system infringes too much on private life; 54% that it reduced the pleasure of being an athlete; 50% that it caused anxiety; 74% felt under surveillance; 54% found it too time-consuming; 57% encountered technical hurdles.Over half (58%) perceived inequality of anti-doping controls between different countries and sports[/color]. Trust in the system's capacity to detect doped athletes was incomplete (83% of those under ADAMS, 60% of those not). Concerning the management of TUEs, 49% of athletes had low trust in their management by authorities, suspected abuse by fellow athletes[/color][/color] and 46% had refrained from medically justified treatment. Similarly as reported before for Norwegian, Danish and UK athletes, our findings suggest that considerable dissatisfaction with ADAMS and TUE also exists among French-speaking athletes. We conclude that there is a need to improve these aspects of WADA's anti-doping efforts in order to increase athletes’ satisfaction and adherence to anti-doping policies.
 
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Play the game 2015 conference is currently taking place in Aarhus, denmark.

The conference is adressing problems in sport governance, corruption, doping, matchfixing etc.

Amongst the speakers are Alessandro Donati (Coni), Hajo Seppelt, *** Pound, and people Behind CIRC and ADD reports.

They are broadcasting live on youtube, for those interested.

I've been reading some on the website and will post a few links/snippets.

http://www.playthegame.org/news/news-articles/2015/0087_play-the-game-2015-a-new-world-code-against-doping-anybody-willing-to-comply/

At this year’s conference, doping takes a prominent place. Unfortunately, the Russian whistle-blowers former 800m runner Yuliya Stepanova and her husband Vitaliy Stepanov, a former anti-doping official, decided to pull out from Play the Game 2015 due to concerns over their personal safety. They feel threatened because of their testimony to a documentary that aired on German TV in the beginning of this year.

Instead the story about the allegedly corrupt practices in Russian and international athletics is told by German journalist Hajo Seppelt, the reporter behind the revealing documentary. Also the IAAF is invited to respond to the allegations, but their participation is uncertain as this programme goes to print.


http://www.playthegame.org/news/news-articles/2015/0097_sports-federations-still-acting-as-doping-facilitators/

Structural inadequacies

In a presentation entitled ‘Doping must be tackled at the source; the rest is appearance’, Italian doping investigator Allesandro Donati described what he saw as WADA’s structural inadequacies. While WADA’s Anti-Doping Code places specific obligations on athletes, doctors and coaches, he said, recent cases demonstrate that national and international sports institutions should be subject to more stringent obligations. In the worst cases, he said, sports institutions have worked against the aims of WADA in protecting doping users. The recent controversy related to abnormally high blood values that were detected by the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) showed that many athletes were probably still beating the system, he said.

While WADA has good intentions, Donati said it is hampered by “huge limits in its competency and authority”, especially regarding the responsibilities it places on sports institutions. In some countries, he pointed out, national anti-doping agencies are directly dependent on the national sports institutions and therefore “deprived of autonomy and impartiality”. In other nations, agencies are autonomous only in appearance. When federations speak of defending their independence, he said, this usually means their political and commercial interests.
http://www.playthegame.org/news/news-articles/2015/0102_an-elephant-should-be-eaten-one-piece-at-a-time/

The lack of compliance
In pointing to the lack of compliance in some parts of the world, Herman Ram got support from Richard W. Pound.“It is very hard to get any action, and it’s the same within the sports movement. Nobody really wants to pull the trigger. So there has been, in my view at least, an unwillingness to get to the accountability level. We have not really declared anybody in any country or federation non-code-compliant, and all those who think that all international federations are code-compliant, please raise your hands because I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I’d like to try to sell you after this session,” Pound said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c43fo23LUw
 
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