General Doping Thread.

[fmk_RoI]

Lennert Van Eetvelt won a 'get out of gaol free' card on the lottery:

The French doping authority (AFLD) is dismissing the case of Lennert Van Eetvelt that they had started following a control on February 19th. In recent weeks the Lotto Dstny rider was perfectly able to substantiate the use of his nasal spray and the AFLD accepted this explanation. The matter is thus off the table and Lennert will now resume competition as soon as possible.

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[fmk_RoI]

According to Popbitch:

Diplo says he took half a tab of acid when running the LA marathon, claiming it really motivated him to run faster.

 

[King Boonen]

The last discussion around this happened in the pro-cycling forum and was closed. I really don't want to have to tag the admin in the clinic.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Gee(z).

 

[fmk_RoI]

The last discussion around this happened in the pro-cycling forum and was closed. I really don't want to have to tag the admin in the clinic.

Gonna guess that this isn't about Diplo and some comments have disappeared and they're the sort of comments Joe Papp and Inga Thompson might approve of?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Today's mass Cramping in the Dauphiné
could it be something in the hotel food/water?
Or a newly available supplement?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Not sure if this is the place for this UCI news:

Transgender women barred from UCI female events

The UCI has ruled transgender women will be unable to participate in female international cycling events.

www.bbc.com

 

[SafeBet]

U23 Italian rider Luca Cretti suspended for Clostebol

CONTROLLI NADO. LUCA CRETTI POSITIVO AL CLOSTEBOL METABOLITA

CONTROLLI NADO. LUCA CRETTI POSITIVO AL CLOSTEBOL METABOLITA

www.tuttobiciweb.it

It's quite impressive that Italian cycling is probably at an all time low and yet it's the only major country where people are getting busted.

 

[Sciatic]

I’m guessing anyone found with Clenbuterol in their system during drug testing will now claim to have eaten U.S. pork products:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2023/07/21/pork-smithfield-exports-clenbuterol/

Luca (see previous post) should launch his appeal any day now.

 

[ThisFrenchGuy]

I’m guessing anyone found with Clenbuterol in their system during drug testing will now claim to have eaten U.S. pork products:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2023/07/21/pork-smithfield-exports-clenbuterol/

Luca (see previous post) should launch his appeal any day now.

You may be already familiar with it but I believe the USADA changed the thresholds for positive tests of Clenbuterol in 2019 because some Mexican (among other producers) meat has so high concentration of it they deemed it was creating false positives. One notable case is star boxer Canelo, who was flagged in 2018 but IIRC benefited from a no violation ruling because of it (said he unknowingly consumed tainted Mexican meat).

 

[Tricycle Rider]

I’m guessing anyone found with Clenbuterol in their system during drug testing will now claim to have eaten U.S. pork products:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2023/07/21/pork-smithfield-exports-clenbuterol/

Luca (see previous post) should launch his appeal any day now.

Aren't these type of drugs used freely by bodybuilders? (If you look in the right places enough on the webs you will find it.)

 

[Sciatic]

You may be already familiar with it but I believe the USADA changed the thresholds for positive tests of Clenbuterol in 2019 because some Mexican (among other producers) meat has so high concentration of it they deemed it was creating false positives. One notable case is star boxer Canelo, who was flagged in 2018 but IIRC benefited from a no violation ruling because of it (said he unknowingly consumed tainted Mexican meat).

I didn’t know about the increasing the thresholds.

I wish WADA would do some of their own research and conduct a study with a collection of volunteers who would eat huge hunks of roast pork from tainted pigs and determine what blood level a person can’t possibly reach by eating tainted meat. Then they could throw out all the excuses based on that.

 

[Sciatic]

Aren't these type of drugs used freely by bodybuilders? (If you look in the right places enough on the webs you will find it.)

They are indeed. Obviously different standards for different sports.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

They are indeed. Obviously different standards for different sports.

I'm not saying anything of what the bodybuilders are doing is legal, I'm just saying they know how to find each other when they need a "boost".

 

[ThisFrenchGuy]

I didn’t know about the increasing the thresholds.

I wish WADA would do some of their own research and conduct a study with a collection of volunteers who would eat huge hunks of roast pork from tainted pigs and determine what blood level a person can’t possibly reach by eating tainted meat. Then they could throw out all the excuses based on that.

To be exact, WADA introduced a threshold under which the test is still flagged, but is marked as adverse rather than atypical (if I use the parlance right) which allows for a follow up investigation to examine alleged contamination via meat (for instance).

I don't know if they conducted the studies themselves but it is seemingly motivated by several findings over the years, at least as early as 2011 there was talks of WADA amending the protocol.

Mexican meat notoriously is pointed as a problem (USADA also mentions Guatemala and China), I think there was a string of boxers that all were positive over a period of time.

 

[Monte Serra]

AG2R rider Baudin tested positive for Tramadol in the Giro:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686016078244155392

View: https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1686016078244155392

 

[magliaroz]

But I was told french teams were clean??? Who am I going to trust now?

 

[topcat]

AG2R rider Baudin tested positive for Tramadol in the Giro:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686016078244155392

View: https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1686016078244155392

Contrast this with Quintana.

 

[Sciatic]

Contrast this with Quintana.

Was going to say the same. What’s up with that?

 

[fmk_RoI]

Contrast this with Quintana.

The difference being ... what?

 

[topcat]

The difference being ... what?

You seem to be implying the drugs bust with Arkea in which Nairo was implicated but not charged and received no ban.

 

[Rob5091]

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ag...ed-from-giro-ditalia-after-tramadol-positive/
Quintana had two positives at the Tour, Baudin has had only one.
Interesting that only 64 samples were collected (if a rider must give two ("two dried blood samples provided by the rider on 24 May on the 17th stage") then that's only 32 riders tested in the entire Giro).
Either the UCI got lucky or they knew who to test.
(stage 17 was a sprinter's stage, half downhill and nothing harder then speed bumps to get over. Baudin finished 93 rd and given the same time as Dainese who won)

 

[Bolder]

I take Tramodol once in a while for a bulging disk in my back. Super effective; but I don't think it's a performance enhancing medication. I see no reason why you couldn't take it, in limited amounts, with a TUE.

 

[Rob5091]

I take Tramodol once in a while for a bulging disk in my back. Super effective; but I don't think it's a performance enhancing medication. I see no reason why you couldn't take it, in limited amounts, with a TUE.

I think if you're in such pain that you need Tramadol (ISIS drug of choice ) then riding a pro-cycling race is not advisable.

 

[Volderke]

I think if you're in such pain that you need Tramadol (ISIS drug of choice ) then riding a pro-cycling race is not advisable.

and if it helped you to go through a painful day halfway into a 3-week GT...?