You really don't know a lot about cycling, do you? The history of this sport is littered with stories like this.El Pistolero said:Kolobnev as 100,000 is nothing for Vino. Now Kolobnev is a doper and fraudeur.
You really don't know a lot about cycling, do you? The history of this sport is littered with stories like this.El Pistolero said:Kolobnev as 100,000 is nothing for Vino. Now Kolobnev is a doper and fraudeur.
Yeah, as in history. And that still wouldn't change the fact that Kolobnev is a fraudeur if it was true. Perhaps you don't know a whole lot about the actual meaning of the word?theyoungest said:You really don't know a lot about cycling, do you? The history of this sport is littered with stories like this.
Wow that was quick. He could change his schedule back and forth again yet.Dekker_Tifosi said:Gesink chickened out again. Just like in 2008 when he was supposed to ride the Giro but did the Vuelta instead. He now decided not to ride the Giro after all and go for the Tour-Vuelta double instead.
Too bad. Still think the Giro would be THE gc for him.![]()
Let me rephrase it: why the hell do you follow cycling? A lot of these guys are fraudeurs, by your meaning of the word at least.El Pistolero said:Yeah, as in history. And that still wouldn't change the fact that Kolobnev is a fraudeur if it was true. Perhaps you don't know a whole lot about the actual meaning of the word?
It already seemed like it was just an idea, not a definite plan, but it was picked up by desperate media in cycling silly season as if it was THE plan for next year. He now realized that it would mean riding 3 GTs in one year, returning from a broken leg.The Hitch said:Wow that was quick. He could change his schedule back and forth again yet.
rumour.but again,usually when there is a two man sprint there is also an offer.that's cycling history since maurice garin,tommy simpson,sean kelly,richard virenque and so on.The Hitch said:I cant read French so I dont know the story but everyone seems to be acting like hes guilty on this thread.
Is there proof or is it just a rumor?
Why do you watch cycling if you think that?theyoungest said:Let me rephrase it: why the hell do you follow cycling? A lot of these guys are fraudeurs, by your meaning of the word at least.
Because that's part of what makes cycling such a fascinating sport. Every aspect of human life is reflected in it.El Pistolero said:Why do you watch cycling if you think that?
theyoungest said:Because that's part of what makes cycling such a fascinating sport. Every aspect of human life is reflected in it.
Good clean fun is boring (and I don't even mean this in a clinicy sense).
Any chance of a translation?El Pistolero said:But to answer your original question. Yes, I'm aware of those stories. Here is a story for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKxuv8iBysI&feature=related
Look at around 7 minutes.
I find all of this hard to believe and urban myth that this happened.Christian said:The article is not very clear. It only reports the accusations that were made by a magazine "Illustré", which appears to be franco-swiss.
The accusations are based on an e-mail exchange, so we can assume that this has to do with the hacking of Vino's e-mails. Kolobnev is said to have sent Vino the number of a Swiss bank account where he was supposed to transfer the 100,000€.
When asked about it by the magazine, Kolobnev said he would never have sold the possibility to win such a race. Vino also denies it: "I have never done this in my career, I have always fought for the win. This is private, I am not talking to the police here. It's another story to drag me into the mudd. (...) I often lend money left and right.
The article also highlights that Vino and Kolobnev had several discussions during their échappée.
Actually given the parties involved I find it easier to believe than most "rumors" that get reported.craig1985 said:I find all of this hard to believe and urban myth that this happened.
yeah. To be honest I didn't like the idea of him riding the giro next year. I mean I really want him to give the giro a go, I'd rather him try it in 2013 then the tour (depending on the course) but next year.. would have been an anton effort (probably always will be at the giro, if he ever goes tho).theyoungest said:Let me rephrase it: why the hell do you follow cycling? A lot of these guys are fraudeurs, by your meaning of the word at least.
It already seemed like it was just an idea, not a definite plan, but it was picked up by desperate media in cycling silly season as if it was THE plan for next year. He now realized that it would mean riding 3 GTs in one year, returning from a broken leg.
will10 said:Any chance of a translation?
stop with some random videos.El Pistolero said:But to answer your original question. Yes, I'm aware of those stories. Here is a story for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKxuv8iBysI&feature=related
Look at around 7 minutes.
Wild celebrations at jens_attacks house for this.auscyclefan94 said:The Killer wants to win the giro again...
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/10591/Di-Luca-inks-Acqua-Sapone-contract-today-targeting-Giro-win.aspx
No, it's not the most normal thing in cycling for stuff like this to happen in 2011. Stop trying to provoke people. This isn't six day racing we're talking about here. So you think Gilbert also paid of everyone to win all his races huh? Lol.... He sure has a lot of money then.Dekker_Tifosi said:stop with some random videos.
how can you not know even now in cycling many races are bought? It's the most normal thing in cycling. Seriously. A Belgian of all people should know this more than others
I'm surprised that this story hasn't gained more traction (yet).abbaskip said:The Dale Parker news is huge to me.
haha. That's trueEl Pistolero said:Boogerd must be the richest man in cycling then..