General News Thread

[Max Rockatansky]

Seems like a route, which is a lot hillier than the last times..

Are Meiningen, Freiburg and Schauinsland already confirmed?
From Marburg to Freiburg it´s 350 km transfer..

For now only the last stage and the opening in Weimar + Marburg are confirmed. They leaked the route for a few days on their website. So it's official without being official.

 

[tobydawq]

The ITT looks a joke again, consediring it will be the same as women I fear something like ~28/32 kms or even less since is only a city circuit whereas the road race is better than the expected (almost) pan flat route but the city circuit at the end could be either good (triggering action from far out) or bad (in case of no selection before will favour an end in a mass sprint), the latter especially if repeated a couple of times.

Here we go again.

 

[Bonimenier]

3-peat for Alaphilippe incoming

 

[movingtarget]

World's parcour to be released tomorrow - Ewan will be disappointed.

Wollongong is a much better worlds circuit for Ewan than the previous few. Mt Keira won't be hard to enough to drop Ewan and it comes early in the race and the circuits that include Mt Pleasant are not that hard. He usually handles the short steep climbs like Mt Pleasant and the top of the final climb is 8 kms from the finish.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Wollongong is a much better worlds circuit for Ewan than the previous few. Mt Keira won't be hard to enough to drop Ewan and it comes early in the race and the circuits that include Mt Pleasant are not that hard. He usually handles the short steep climbs like Mt Pleasant and the top of the final climb is 8 kms from the finish.

We still don't have the actual profile, so there's still a chance that Mt Keira will be ridden more than once.

 

[tobydawq]

And it would be hard enough, are you kidding me?

 

[roundabout]

We still don't have the actual profile, so there's still a chance that Mt Keira will be ridden more than once.

I believe the course is 27km initial section + 34 km Mt Keira lap + 12x 17.5 km final lap as previously stated here

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[movingtarget]

We still don't have the actual profile, so there's still a chance that Mt Keira will be ridden more than once.

Sounds like it won't be but even so Mt Keira is a pimple for the pro riders, they will fly up there, the only steep part is in the first km. I think Ewan and Matthews won't mind the Wollongong course at all. I think its a race for sprinters than can climb. Apart from Mt Pleasant the rest of the city circuit is very flat.

 

[tobydawq]

Does anybody think there will ever be made a joke about the climb on the final circuit?

Also, I'm very relieved to see it will not be a straight-out sprint.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I believe the course is 27km initial section + 34 km Mt Keira lap + 12x 17.5 km final lap as previously stated here

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I think I was the one who initially referenced that articlle in here, though it made it sound like it would be a bit easier than what appears to be the case. It won't be easy for Ewan, cause the final climb is not as pleasant for him as the Poggio in terms of gradients (so the answer was yes, toby). We also saw him struggle on the short climbs in Leuven, though he wasn't at his absolute peak that day.

It still isn't confirmed though, but it does sound like the UCI has been very keen on making the city circuit the main attraction, so there probably won't be any changes in the end.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

They made the perfect course for Simon Gerrans.

 

[movingtarget]

A shame they couldn't have done a few circuits of the Mt Keira/Mt Kembla loop. Actually if they went the opposite way up Mt Kembla and down Mt Keira it would have been harder but apart from the two climbs its a very flat course..

 

[yaco]

Wollongong is a much better worlds circuit for Ewan than the previous few. Mt Keira won't be hard to enough to drop Ewan and it comes early in the race and the circuits that include Mt Pleasant are not that hard. He usually handles the short steep climbs like Mt Pleasant and the top of the final climb is 8 kms from the finish.

Even if they only do one circuit of Mt Keira which is unlikely that's still around 3000 metres of climbing - They do two or more circuits of Mt Keira then the climbing could be around 3500m - As a point of reference, the World's course in 2021 featured 2500m of climbing which was raced hard and split the peleton.

The ITT profile seems well suited to Ganna with it being fairly flat and technical featuring 27 corners.

 

[Red Rick]

So the circuit just has a 1.1km 7.7% climb?

That's the sort of climb that makes it extremely important how far from the finish it is.

 

[roundabout]

well, it's not a regular 7.7%, but whether it will be enough

https://assets.auscycling.org.au/s3fs-public/inline-images/mount-pleasant-profile.jpg?aeOVIVZsHuROj38M45_.uJIpAC6Vq8fH

Edit: unless it will be a mix of the laps as it is now suggested

 

[tobydawq]

well, it's not a regular 7.7%, but whether it will be enough

https://assets.auscycling.org.au/s3fs-public/inline-images/mount-pleasant-profile.jpg?aeOVIVZsHuROj38M45_.uJIpAC6Vq8fH

Edit: unless it will be a mix of the laps as it is now suggested

It's quite bizarre how they don't just announce what it's gonna be...

 

[Red Rick]

It's quite bizarre how they don't just announce what it's gonna be...

They fear the wrath of Petulant Whiners United.

 

[tobydawq]

They fear the wrath of Petulant Whiners United.

How would they combine the three parts of the circuits they have unveiled without summoning that wrath?

The PWU are going to whine no matter what, but an objective person cannot claim that they have designed it solely with Ewan in mind.

 

[roundabout]

city circuit lap video

View: https://youtu.be/O5ozT37Cqqg


looks like a bit of a climb about 1km before Mt Pleasant

 

[movingtarget]

city circuit lap video

View: https://youtu.be/O5ozT37Cqqg


looks like a bit of a climb about 1km before Mt Pleasant

Yes and you will need to be right near the front coming around the final turn to have any hope in the sprint. Narrow road and a fast finish.

 

[movingtarget]

So the circuit just has a 1.1km 7.7% climb?

That's the sort of climb that makes it extremely important how far from the finish it is.

The top of the climb is 8 kms from the finish.

 

[movingtarget]

I think I was the one who initially referenced that articlle in here, though it made it sound like it would be a bit easier than what appears to be the case. It won't be easy for Ewan, cause the final climb is not as pleasant for him as the Poggio in terms of gradients (so the answer was yes, toby). We also saw him struggle on the short climbs in Leuven, though he wasn't at his absolute peak that day.

It still isn't confirmed though, but it does sound like the UCI has been very keen on making the city circuit the main attraction, so there probably won't be any changes in the end.

The city circuit is mostly going through the suburbs and its only in the last km it gets back to the seaside. The Mt Keira loop is much more tourist photo friendly and the start down the coast before they get to the the first climb will provide plenty of scenery for the helicopters.

 

[yaco]

The UCI at present can not travel to Australia to tick off the course because of COVID restrictions - The final course will be ticked off in March.

 

[Nirvana]

On the Italian forum they said the ITT circuit is 18 kms, even worse than the joke distance I initially thought, next step will be having a prologue...

At this point I fear also a sub 200 kms road race like the Euros since back then the UEC president clearly said that the short route was a request from TV providers and UCI wanted to test it to see if it could work for the Worlds.

 

[tobydawq]

On the Italian forum they said the ITT circuit is 18 kms, even worse than the joke distance I initially thought, next step will be having a prologue...

At this point I fear also a sub 200 kms road race like the Euros since back then the UEC president clearly said that the short route was a request from TV providers and UCI wanted to test it to see if it could work for the Worlds.

Do you have to use the word "joke" every freaking time you are unhappy about race distance, especially when it's only hypothetical as is the case here?

I would really hate to see such a short distance for the RR too (and it's not going to happen) but to me it's more a question about tradition and the build-up of the excitement during the race. It's certainly not because I think it would have any influence on the result of the race whatsoever.