Geraint Thomas, the next british hope

[Semper Fidelis]

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'02 Armstrong 45.55.
'04 Armstrong and Basso 45.31.

Classics specialist Thomas, chasing down attacks as a domestique, 45.38. And today was a headwind.

Mic drop.

NICE.

I just got back from Red Lobster.

This guys VO2 must be 90 or higher. I posted on the sky thread ,,,,, maybe his heart rate jumped up to 160 today! HAHA

 

[Benotti69]

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Bizarre. I have posted plenty of times about Thomas being an obvious doper going back to the 2013 Dauphine. It's quite a simple question, why did you make a comparison with a stage where Thomas had a broken pelvis when there are plenty of others you could have used to make a valid comparison. The answer is simple. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Ah yes, the Armstrong era "I'm not making a defense, but I'm making a defense" ***. It's 2015, get a new shtick...that one is played. P.L.A.Y.E.D.

Whatever his motivation, he has a point. Plenty of other, more comparable data points from Thomas, no need to use that one which is faulty.

Indeed, even more so as he has ridden the same climb before in 2011 (56th place beaten 14.59m). By the way, I have no motivation. I am as disgusted by Thomas as anyone here. That doesn't mean that posters like Benotti and the sceptic should have free rein to post whatever bilge they want.

Attack me all you want to deflect from Thomas. It really is working........

 

[Franklin]

Agreed. If we stick to the facts it's more than enough.

If someone corrects a datapoint or shows the incriminating data does not work does not automatically make that person an appologist. Sometimes the mobmentality here is harming the truthfinding.

We all know Thomas is glowing. Comparing today with a day when he broke his pelvis is flatout stupid.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

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Agreed. If we stick to the facts it's more than enough.

If someone corrects a datapoint or shows the incriminating data does not work does not automatically make that person an appologist. Sometimes the mobmentality here is harming the truthfinding.

We all know Thomas is glowing. Comparing today with a day when he broke his pelvis is flatout stupid.

This same poster has been defending Thomas' team pretty consistently, you'll have to excuse those of us who read all of it, and question his motives now...

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

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Bizarre. I have posted plenty of times about Thomas being an obvious doper going back to the 2013 Dauphine. It's quite a simple question, why did you make a comparison with a stage where Thomas had a broken pelvis when there are plenty of others you could have used to make a valid comparison. The answer is simple. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Ah yes, the Armstrong era "I'm not making a defense, but I'm making a defense" ***. It's 2015, get a new shtick...that one is played. P.L.A.Y.E.D.

Whatever his motivation, he has a point. Plenty of other, more comparable data points from Thomas, no need to use that one which is faulty.

Indeed, even more so as he has ridden the same climb before in 2011 (56th place beaten 14.59m). By the way, I have no motivation. I am as disgusted by Thomas as anyone here. That doesn't mean that posters like Benotti and the sceptic should have free rein to post whatever bilge they want.

Attack me all you want to deflect from Thomas. It really is working........

Come on, you posted something in error and I pointed it out. You could have admitted your error and found some relevant examples, instead you chose to engage in some childish rant, accusing me of things I had never said and making yourself look silly. Anyway, I won't be responding to anymore of your posts for now as it's taking away from any genuine discussion about Thomas being the most ridiculous doper in a long time.

 

[Benotti69]

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Agreed. If we stick to the facts it's more than enough.

If someone corrects a datapoint or shows the incriminating data does not work does not automatically make that person an appologist. Sometimes the mobmentality here is harming the truthfinding.

We all know Thomas is glowing. Comparing today with a day when he broke his pelvis is flatout stupid.

Losing only 27mins on Ventoux with a broken pelvis, hardly that stupid a comparison neither was it the best. I had forgotten Thomas had a crack on his ar$e.

But hey Bernie could have given better examples, instead he attacks me.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

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Agreed. If we stick to the facts it's more than enough.

If someone corrects a datapoint or shows the incriminating data does not work does not automatically make that person an appologist. Sometimes the mobmentality here is harming the truthfinding.

We all know Thomas is glowing. Comparing today with a day when he broke his pelvis is flatout stupid.

This same poster has been defending Thomas' team pretty consistently, you'll have to excuse those of us who read all of it, and question his motives now...

Feel free to give me some examples.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

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Agreed. If we stick to the facts it's more than enough.

If someone corrects a datapoint or shows the incriminating data does not work does not automatically make that person an appologist. Sometimes the mobmentality here is harming the truthfinding.

We all know Thomas is glowing. Comparing today with a day when he broke his pelvis is flatout stupid.

This same poster has been defending Thomas' team pretty consistently, you'll have to excuse those of us who read all of it, and question his motives now...

Feel free to give me some examples.

Feel free to read your own posts.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

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Agreed. If we stick to the facts it's more than enough.

If someone corrects a datapoint or shows the incriminating data does not work does not automatically make that person an appologist. Sometimes the mobmentality here is harming the truthfinding.

We all know Thomas is glowing. Comparing today with a day when he broke his pelvis is flatout stupid.

This same poster has been defending Thomas' team pretty consistently, you'll have to excuse those of us who read all of it, and question his motives now...

Feel free to give me some examples.

Feel free to read your own posts.

I'll take it you don't have any then. Thanks.

 

[The Hitch]

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today the best climbers were all together for the first time but the group had some resemblance to this picture

I hope this isn't a racist comment about Daniel Teklehaimanot

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

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Agreed. If we stick to the facts it's more than enough.

If someone corrects a datapoint or shows the incriminating data does not work does not automatically make that person an appologist. Sometimes the mobmentality here is harming the truthfinding.

We all know Thomas is glowing. Comparing today with a day when he broke his pelvis is flatout stupid.

This same poster has been defending Thomas' team pretty consistently, you'll have to excuse those of us who read all of it, and question his motives now...

Feel free to give me some examples.

Feel free to read your own posts.

I'll take it you don't have any then. Thanks.

I'll take it you don't read your own posts. Thanks.

 

[The Hitch]

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Bizarre. I have posted plenty of times about Thomas being an obvious doper going back to the 2013 Dauphine. It's quite a simple question, why did you make a comparison with a stage where Thomas had a broken pelvis when there are plenty of others you could have used to make a valid comparison. The answer is simple. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Ah yes, the Armstrong era "I'm not making a defense, but I'm making a defense" ***. It's 2015, get a new shtick...that one is played. P.L.A.Y.E.D.

To be fair to Bernie, and I'm saying this despite the fact that he is constantly trying to land cheap shots on me, he has consistently said Sky dope.

 

[Franklin]

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This same poster has been defending Thomas' team pretty consistently, you'll have to excuse those of us who read all of it, and question his motives now...

The data point was simply wrong. No excuses, it's also not a big deal, from both the error (who would have remembered that fracture? Not me), as the corrector (he could have been nicer, but it was hardly a slap in the face). The whole discussion is silly.

And about him being a Sky bot? He never struck me that way, only as a lot more cautious and willing to give the benefit of the doubt. He's ridiculing skellefroome as much as we do, is critical of intransparency, questions some performances. I'm much more sceptical than he is, but a Sky bot? No.

I also checked his stance on Thomas and he was already extremely critical prior the TdF. That does not jive with your allegation of him being a Sky defender.

 

[carton]

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today the best climbers were all together for the first time but the group had some resemblance to this picture

I hope this isn't a racist comment about Daniel Teklehaimanot

You took that to a dark place.

On a side note, fess up, you googled Teklehaimanot.

 

[Franklin]

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Losing only 27mins on Ventoux with a broken pelvis, hardly that stupid a comparison neither was it the best. I had forgotten Thomas had a crack on his ar$e.

But hey Bernie could have given better examples, instead he attacks me.

The whole discussion is inane. You made an error *shrug*, he corrected it *shrug*.

Tone was somewhat strong, but we all dish out quite well (including me^^), so let's drop it, shall we?

 

[46&twoWheels]

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today the best climbers were all together for the first time but the group had some resemblance to this picture

I hope this isn't a racist comment about Daniel Teklehaimanot

I should have pointed out that It looked like a Sky uniform

 

[Benotti69]

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Losing only 27mins on Ventoux with a broken pelvis, hardly that stupid a comparison neither was it the best. I had forgotten Thomas had a crack on his ar$e.

But hey Bernie could have given better examples, instead he attacks me.

The whole discussion is inane. You made an error *shrug*, he corrected it *shrug*.

Tone was somewhat strong, but we all dish out quite well (including me^^), so let's drop it, shall we?

Dropped.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

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Bizarre. I have posted plenty of times about Thomas being an obvious doper going back to the 2013 Dauphine. It's quite a simple question, why did you make a comparison with a stage where Thomas had a broken pelvis when there are plenty of others you could have used to make a valid comparison. The answer is simple. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Ah yes, the Armstrong era "I'm not making a defense, but I'm making a defense" ***. It's 2015, get a new shtick...that one is played. P.L.A.Y.E.D.

To be fair to Bernie, and I'm saying this despite the fact that he is constantly trying to land cheap shots on me, he has consistently said Sky dope.

Sorry Hitch, I do get a little carried away sometimes (as we all do). That said, I find myself in agreement with most of what you say here and fine you one of the most informative posters on these forums.

 

[Franklin]

About dropped... I'm so looking forward to the Alpes and see who Geraint is going to drop like a bad habit

The top ten is pretty much made, I only expect Nibali to collapse. Currently I'd say 1. Froome, 2. TJvG 3. GT

But AC is a fighter and not a afraid to "push himself", so who knows.

 

[Benotti69]

apparently Froome reckons Thomas can make the podium.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

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apparently Froome reckons Thomas can make the podium.

He's been the second best rider in the race so far but has lost a couple of minutes by easing up on three stages. No reason why he can't podium if he can sustain his form for the third week.

 

[Benotti69]

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apparently Froome reckons Thomas can make the podium.

He's been the second best rider in the race so far but has lost a couple of minutes by easing up on three stages. No reason why he can't podium if he can sustain his form for the third week.

I thought Froome might do a 2014 and Thomas win the race, prior to the race starting. But yep, no reason why Thomas cant stand on the podium if Sky let him. I somehow think Sky wont let him podium. Be rubbing other teams noses in it.

 

[Cervelo77]

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apparently Froome reckons Thomas can make the podium.

He's been the second best rider in the race so far but has lost a couple of minutes by easing up on three stages. No reason why he can't podium if he can sustain his form for the third week.

It's so impressive how Sky can regularly take a domestique rider and train him to the level needed for the podium. Other teams must not know how to train their riders. Amateurs.

 

[Kernel]

If Thomas is on par with Basso and Armstrongs time of '04. We should warn the poor guy. He may have testicular cancer :O

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

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Agreed. If we stick to the facts it's more than enough.

If someone corrects a datapoint or shows the incriminating data does not work does not automatically make that person an appologist. Sometimes the mobmentality here is harming the truthfinding.

We all know Thomas is glowing. Comparing today with a day when he broke his pelvis is flatout stupid.

This same poster has been defending Thomas' team pretty consistently, you'll have to excuse those of us who read all of it, and question his motives now...

Feel free to give me some examples.

He cant have one. At least since last years TdF you made it very clear what your POV is: Sky on dope. I wonder how people can misinterpred your posts...
Btw, you have a point with the broken pelvis. Instead of giving better examples, the baiting starts from the usual "100% truth owners".