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Bushman said:I'm really pissed off at Sky because of Geraint Thomas. Here is a rider who, god forbid, shows great potential for the classics, so lets turn him into the next GT robot. How boring can it be?
Thomas could have been a really interesting rider, a bit Cancellara/Van Avermaet like (not that these two are similar) who could race in the northern classics, MSR and maybe Amstel, win short tt's and prologues and hunt stages in medium mountains and hilly routes. Now he is just another rider who can go up a climb really fast and ride a good tt.
I still like him and he was great in last year's Tour, but I can't help feeling a strong dislike for Sky and their desire to turn EVERYONE into a GT rider. I reckon Moscon is the next allround, exciting talent to be turned into the next Chris Froome.
Bushman said:I'm really pissed off at Sky because of Geraint Thomas. Here is a rider who, god forbid, shows great potential for the classics, so lets turn him into the next GT robot. How boring can it be?
Thomas could have been a really interesting rider, a bit Cancellara/Van Avermaet like (not that these two are similar) who could race in the northern classics, MSR and maybe Amstel, win short tt's and prologues and hunt stages in medium mountains and hilly routes. Now he is just another rider who can go up a climb really fast and ride a good tt.
I still like him and he was great in last year's Tour, but I can't help feeling a strong dislike for Sky and their desire to turn EVERYONE into a GT rider. I reckon Moscon is the next allround, exciting talent to be turned into the next Chris Froome.
Cannibal72 said:Bushman said:I'm really pissed off at Sky because of Geraint Thomas. Here is a rider who, god forbid, shows great potential for the classics, so lets turn him into the next GT robot. How boring can it be?
Thomas could have been a really interesting rider, a bit Cancellara/Van Avermaet like (not that these two are similar) who could race in the northern classics, MSR and maybe Amstel, win short tt's and prologues and hunt stages in medium mountains and hilly routes. Now he is just another rider who can go up a climb really fast and ride a good tt.
I still like him and he was great in last year's Tour, but I can't help feeling a strong dislike for Sky and their desire to turn EVERYONE into a GT rider. I reckon Moscon is the next allround, exciting talent to be turned into the next Chris Froome.
I absolutely agree with everything you say. Yes, it's partially Thomas' choice, but maybe if Sky valued the classics more/at all, he wouldn't have been inculcated with this 'only GTs matter' attitude that leads him to ignore his potential as a classics rider and doggedly pursue a pipe dream of the giddy heights of a Tour top 10. If they do the same with Kwiatkowski - who seems worryingly blinkered as well, judging by his comments about EQS not supporting him enough going for GC - I'll be spectacularly disappointed.
Bushman said:I'm really pissed off at Sky because of Geraint Thomas. Here is a rider who, god forbid, shows great potential for the classics, so lets turn him into the next GT robot. How boring can it be?
Thomas could have been a really interesting rider, a bit Cancellara/Van Avermaet like (not that these two are similar) who could race in the northern classics, MSR and maybe Amstel, win short tt's and prologues and hunt stages in medium mountains and hilly routes. Now he is just another rider who can go up a climb really fast and ride a good tt.
I still like him and he was great in last year's Tour, but I can't help feeling a strong dislike for Sky and their desire to turn EVERYONE into a GT rider. I reckon Moscon is the next allround, exciting talent to be turned into the next Chris Froome.
Pricey_sky said:Bushman said:I'm really pissed off at Sky because of Geraint Thomas. Here is a rider who, god forbid, shows great potential for the classics, so lets turn him into the next GT robot. How boring can it be?
Thomas could have been a really interesting rider, a bit Cancellara/Van Avermaet like (not that these two are similar) who could race in the northern classics, MSR and maybe Amstel, win short tt's and prologues and hunt stages in medium mountains and hilly routes. Now he is just another rider who can go up a climb really fast and ride a good tt.
I still like him and he was great in last year's Tour, but I can't help feeling a strong dislike for Sky and their desire to turn EVERYONE into a GT rider. I reckon Moscon is the next allround, exciting talent to be turned into the next Chris Froome.
In a Q+A with Thomas last year he answered my question as to wether he could see himself playing a part in both classics and GT's in the future. He said that he see's himself getting stronger as a GC rider and that's what he wants to focus on, despite enjoying himself in the one-day races. I don't think it was Sky's choice at all, sorry to disappoint you.
Kwibus said:Thomas indeed made it clear he wanted to go for the GT's. Unfortunately.
Or back in the '90s... I agree with JRanton. The best exposure is the TdF. I won't count LeMond post-accident, but the fixation really started with BigMig after he lost the Giro in '94. He could have got his share of Vueltas, gone back to the Giro: nope. Going for the BIG one. Very clear philosophy best exemplified by Wonderboy... or even Ulle for that matter: he could have danced around (i.e. avoided) Lance, won 4-5 Giro/Vueltas in the early 2000s, but the Tour is where the hype, publicity, $, is. Even if your the runner-up in his case. Yikes. A team like Sky doesn't give a crap about PR or RVV. It's all about the BIG one.kenk09 said:It's good to be back in 2012.
Wonder what ambitions for the Flanders are.ferryman said:Nice comfortable win for Geraint in the end. From his post race interview, he is fully committed to supporting Froome in the TDF. And, his next four races are a mix of one weekers and one dayers. Missing Belgium next weekend but then it's Paris-Nice, MSR, Catalunya and then Flanders. Interesting mix for a very interesting rider
Tonton said:Or back in the '90s... I agree with JRanton. The best exposure is the TdF. I won't count LeMond post-accident, but the fixation really started with BigMig after he lost the Giro in '94. He could have got his share of Vueltas, gone back to the Giro: nope. Going for the BIG one. Very clear philosophy best exemplified by Wonderboy... or even Ulle for that matter: he could have danced around (i.e. avoided) Lance, won 4-5 Giro/Vueltas in the early 2000s, but the Tour is where the hype, publicity, $, is. Even if your the runner-up in his case. Yikes. A team like Sky doesn't give a crap about PR or RVV. It's all about the BIG one.kenk09 said:It's good to be back in 2012.
ferryman said:Nice comfortable win for Geraint in the end. From his post race interview, he is fully committed to supporting Froome in the TDF. And, his next four races are a mix of one weekers and one dayers. Missing Belgium next weekend but then it's Paris-Nice, MSR, Catalunya and then Flanders. Interesting mix for a very interesting rider
I hear you. But Henao has to do more. Like it or not this race was and always was about Geraint.cineteq said:Meanwhile, a more talented rider, Henao, is left alone, unsupported. Shame on Sky!
ferryman said:Nice comfortable win for Geraint in the end. From his post race interview, he is fully committed to supporting Froome in the TDF. And, his next four races are a mix of one weekers and one dayers. Missing Belgium next weekend but then it's Paris-Nice, MSR, Catalunya and then Flanders. Interesting mix for a very interesting rider
cineteq said:Meanwhile, a more talented rider, Henao, is left alone, unsupported. Shame on Sky!
Tonton said:Or back in the '90s... I agree with JRanton. The best exposure is the TdF. I won't count LeMond post-accident, but the fixation really started with BigMig after he lost the Giro in '94. He could have got his share of Vueltas, gone back to the Giro: nope. Going for the BIG one. Very clear philosophy best exemplified by Wonderboy... or even Ulle for that matter: he could have danced around (i.e. avoided) Lance, won 4-5 Giro/Vueltas in the early 2000s, but the Tour is where the hype, publicity, $, is. Even if your the runner-up in his case. Yikes. A team like Sky doesn't give a crap about PR or RVV. It's all about the BIG one.kenk09 said:It's good to be back in 2012.