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python said:polish, if armstrong pretended not to know who gerdemann was, it was not silly, it was arrogant and stupid. and on your part, it was not silly - it was plain stupid to bring it up cause the biggest fraud in our sport is not the biggest authority for non american fans.
Alpe d'Huez said:Cut out the personal bickering.
Libertine Seguros said:Gerdemann has some viable motives for doing this, but the fact that he's willing to do so implies that he is at least outwardly a clean cyclist. I just named some of the motives - the fact that he'd been implied in something even without evidence means that some people will always raise questions. If he goes top 20 at the Tour as a rider who can viably still develop and does it in these circumstances, then those questions can hopefully be quashed. It would then give German sponsors potentially put off by the expectance of positive tests after the last few years reason to be interested in cycling again, with the knowledge that one of Germany's most recognised and talented cyclists is clean. With races disappearing left, right and centre in that part of Europe (RIP Hessen Rundfahrt, RIP Sachsentour, RIP Deutschlandtour, and more) anything that provides positive (no pun intended) feedback for cycling in the region should be applauded.
python said:there is nothing to lighten up about. armstrong has not delivered anything since his 'return' and his implications atm were arrogant because gerdemann called him implicitly a doper, which most observant fans know is a fact. so texas trying to diminish a rider who dared to criticize him is nothing new and should be called forit it was -- arrogant.
Polish said:Sorry Straßenrennen, I know who Linus is.
I was just being silly. Or stupid is ok too...
Linus had a "Taylor Phinney" moment back when Lance first announced his comeback:
http://www.bikeworldnews.com/2008/11/05/lance-asks-hell-linus-gerdemann/
theswordsman said:For people thinking he's a publicity hound, he told his plan to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, for God's sake.
Straßenrennen said:This post is I think the reason why Linus has said he will do this, in order to premote the idea again, that German cycling can be done without doping and still provide good results. Personally I would say a top 20 finish is well within reach for Gerdemann as long as he doesnt burn out. I hope he is realistic enough to realise that he wont ever win the tour, or not at the moment anyhow. I hope he does find someone to sponser this "event" but i do agree with Foxxy that the main tv stations in germany that would do this are more anti cycling than trying to prove or help improve the image of cycling within Germany, after all a Donkey doesnt twice fall over the same stone!
For a major sponsor... not sure maybe a sports insitution or a scientist... perhaps that Danish guy (forget his name)who did the paper on blood doping,ie hemocratt does not go up/stay level for 3 weeks while racing, forget his name at the moment.. he would proberly like Linus´ blood parameters to add credence to his studies.
python said:sounds like your anger detection mech is from texas.
Oncearunner8 said:don't go hateing on the Lone Star...when your in the Empire State.
FoxxyBrown1111 said:right, only cyclists starting with "Travis" have the right.
You're right - this 'stunt' doesn't deserve much coverage ....... if only Linus had thought of bringing Don Catlin along for the foto op, then it would deserve coverage...dickwrench said:Yeah, this linus guy whatever. All I know is Lance said he didn't know who he was when he was talking smack about him when he was coming back. That says all anybody needs to know about how much press this stunt deserves. Linus who? Anybody named after that dirty dude on Peanuts comics has no credibility when it comes to clean cycling.
Dr. Maserati said:You're right - this 'stunt' doesn't deserve much coverage ....... if only Linus had thought of bringing Don Catlin along for the foto op, then it would deserve coverage...
dickwrench said:Why should Lance have more test than other racer? He didn't think it through when he said he would use this guy. Like I'm gonna go to work tomorrow and ask to be drug tested more than the hungover dude in the next office.Lance has never failed a test so why would he do this. Let's get Mother Theresa and Ghandi to pis in a cup every morning.
Beside this guy has no credibility versus what was available. When Damgard said he would test Astana then that is the best anyway. Look how many Saxo riders failed the test. Zero. Catlin isn't that good or he hasn't proven he is that good to prove a clean team.