Giro 2013 rumours

[SafeBet]

How about a couple of 400 km stages?


Just trying to figure how the last saturday Gavia stage could fit in.

 

[Eshnar]

How about a couple of 400 km stages?


Just trying to figure how the last saturday Gavia stage could fit in.

it just doesn't fit, that's why I'm asking what the source is.

 

[Ciclo83]

No word yet on the TV will broadcast the Giro in 2013, Rai try to renew, but the organizers want the Giro produced in HD and it comes to negotiations with Sky Italy.

 

[Ciclo83]

official, the stage of Florence Sunday, May 12....

http://corrierefiorentino.corriere....ssi-giro-la-verna-consuma-2111776300228.shtml

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

The Gavia is the penultimate day ...

Do you have a source for that? You didn't answer Eshnar's question.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Welcome to the forum ciclo. We are getting close to 10 regular poster now . I hope there is an agreement with Rai soon .

 

[Eshnar]

Welcome to the forum ciclo. We are getting close to 10 regular poster now . I hope there is an agreement with Rai soon .

who? I don't know all of them

Anyway, updating...


1 Napoli - Napoli [flat] (Napoli is official. Still not clear if TTT or road stage)
2 Ischia TTT ****(circuit if Napoli is TTT)
3 ??? - Ascea [hilly?] ****
4 ??? - Cosenza [hilly?] ****
5 ??? - ???
6 ??? - ???
7 ??? - ???
8 ??? - ???
9 Sansepolcro - Firenze [Worlds circuit] *****
REST (transfer to Cordenons)
10 Cordenons - Malghe Del Montasio [MTF] *****
11 Tarvisio (or Cave Del Predil) - Vajont [Hilly]*****
12 Longarone - Treviso [flat] *****
13 Vicenza ITT ****
14 ??? - Val Senales [MTF] ***
15 ??? - Gavia [MTF] ***
REST
16 Mori - Polsa [MTT] ****
17 ??? - Parma(or Busseto) [flat] ***
18 ??? - Cherasco (?) [hilly] ****
19 Cervere - Galibier [MTF] ****
20 Bardonecchia - ???
21 Milano ITT **

 

[Descender]

New rumour for 2014 (no thread yet so I´ll post it here): finish on Zoncolan with a double climb: first through Sutrio, then through Ovaro.

Am I missing something here? Does this mean they´ll descend down the Ovaro side first? That is beyond dangerous.

EDIT: I read the source of the rumour. If my Italian isn´t too rusty, they say they´ll climb each side in a different stage, both stages being separated by the rest day? Or are they saying they´ll climb the Zoncolan twice in one stage, then rest day, then the Pordenonese stage?

ANTEPRIMA GIRO. Trieste, arrivo di tappa a Malga Montasio

La tre giorni - ma con un tracciato diverso - verrà confermata anche nel 2014. In quell’occasione tornerà a essere protagonista lo Zoncolan e l’idea è quella di proporre la doppia ascesa, prima da Sutrio e poi da Ovaro. Una frazione toccherà poi il Pordenonese. In mezzo la giornata di riposo.

 

[Eshnar]

New rumour for 2014 (no thread yet so I´ll post it here): finish on Zoncolan with a double climb: first through Sutrio, then through Ovaro.

Am I missing something here? Does this mean they´ll descend down the Ovaro side first? That is beyond dangerous.

Quite impossible in reality. The narrow tunnels at the top of the Zonc prevent cars to follow the riders... same problem of Crostis.

 

[airstream]

nowadays these sissies will again make up something about extreme complexity of zonс descent.

 

[Eshnar]

EDIT: I read the source of the rumour. If my Italian isn´t too rusty, they say they´ll climb each side in a different stage, both stages being separated by the rest day? Or are they saying they´ll climb the Zoncolan twice in one stage, then rest day, then the Pordenonese stage?

Yes, they're saying two different stages

 

[airstream]

Don't think that would be a bad news, either side you do the Galibier coming from Italy you have a lot of valley kilometer between the start of the Galibier and the previous climb.

but still the ascent is harder than from the side passed in 2011 as far as i see this. also they could again ride it via izoard.



in fact, no giro climbs will surprise us any longer. without attackers, all will be overcome like this year's passo pampego

 

[Eshnar]

but still the ascent is harder than from the side passed in 2011 as far as i see this. also they could again ride it via izoard.



in fact, no giro climbs will surprise us any longer. without attackers, all will be overcome like this year's passo pampego

no giro climbs? Let's say no climbs then.
Anyway there will be Nibali so at least one will attack
Also, I find pretty amusing that one bad Giro is enough to get such depression.

 

[The Hitch]

Quite impossible in reality. The narrow tunnels at the top of the Zonc prevent cars to follow the riders... same problem of Crostis.

Speaking of Crostis, will they ever actually use it? Also any idea of when me might see the climb pozzo won in trentino this year, or even if the giro will ever do Scanuppia.

 

[jens_attacks]

so wiggo and killer to storm the galibier from valloire next year am i right?

 

[Descender]

Speaking of Crostis, will they ever actually use it? Also any idea of when me might see the climb pozzo won in trentino this year, or even if the giro will ever do Scanuppia.

Scanuppia is 1) too hard and 2) the road would need to be resurfaced.

I could see the Giro organisers using Punta Veleno. It's strikingly similar to the Zoncolan anyway.

About Crostis... when riders grow a pair perhaps.

 

[SafeBet]

Scanuppia is 1) too hard and 2) the road would need to be resurfaced.

I could see the Giro organisers using Punta Veleno. It's strikingly similar to the Zoncolan anyway.

About Crostis... when riders grow a pair perhaps.

Indeed Scanuppia is far from being a GT climb right now. I would never use it.
Punta Veleno is interesting though. Might be used as a pass too.

 

[JRanton]

Does anyone know how long the rumoured Vicenza ITT will be?

 

[pastronef]

Speaking of Crostis, will they ever actually use it? Also any idea of when me might see the climb pozzo won in trentino this year, or even if the giro will ever do Scanuppia.

please no, let's be serious. punta veleno, zoncolan, bola del mundo and so on are already enough. steeper climbs would be ridicolous

 

[Libertine Seguros]

nowadays these sissies will again make up something about extreme complexity of zonс descent.

Says the Andy Schleck fan.

 

[El Pistolero]

I hate steep climbs. I remember this interview in het Nieuwsblad with Michele Aquarone and he said he wanted to lure big stars to his Giro like Philippe Gilbert, Tom Boonen, Fabian Cancellara, Thor Hushovd(I know he was there this year, but we all know why), Alessandro Ballan, etc

It's a shame most classic stars skip the Giro. It's been since 2009 Phil started at the Giro and Boonen/Cancellara never even started there. And Cancellara is half Italian!

Perhaps with a few tweaks in the Giro design more of these type of cyclists would come... Even if it's only for a week or two.

edit: Cancellara did start there, but gave up both times. Kinda forgot how he dropped out just before the hard time trial in 2009 which was won by Menchov. Don't remember anything from him in 2007 though.

 

[Eshnar]

New rumour by Tuttosport:
Stage 13 will be Busseto - Cherasco, then Cervere - Monte Jafferau and Cesana - Galibier. That would mean an enormous transfer from Treviso and Busseto, so I don't really trust this. But Tuttosport is always pretty reliable when it comes to hack the Giro route. According to the same article, after Galibier there would NOT be a rest day, but other two stages: Valloire - Ivrea and Castello Di Agilé - Bergamo.
The article then adds that there won't be 2 ITTs
And Vicenza will be involved in the third week.
The route would then look like this.

1 Napoli - Napoli [flat] (Napoli is official. Still not clear if TTT or road stage)
2 Ischia TTT ****(circuit if Napoli is TTT)
3 ??? - Ascea [hilly?] ****
4 ??? - Cosenza [hilly?] ****
5 ??? - ???
6 ??? - ???
7 ??? - ???
8 ??? - ???
9 Sansepolcro - Firenze [Worlds circuit] *****
REST (transfer to Cordenons)
10 Cordenons - Malghe Del Montasio [MTF] *****
11 Tarvisio (or Cave Del Predil) - Vajont [Hilly]*****
12 Longarone - Treviso [flat] *****
13 Busseto - Cherasco [hilly] ****
14 Cervere - Monte Jafferau [MTF] ****
15 Cesana - Galibier [MTF] ****
16 Valloire - Ivrea [hilly] ****
17 Castello Di Agilé - Bergamo [?] ****
REST
18 Mori - La Polsa [MTT] ****
19 Vicenza(?) - Val Senales [MTF] ****
20 ??? - Gavia [MTF] ****
21 Milano ITT ****

 

[airstream]

Says the Andy Schleck fan.

we discussed his descending abilities numerous times.

 

[Descender]

New rumour by Tuttosport:
Stage 13 will be Busseto - Cherasco, then Cervere - Monte Jafferau and Cesana - Galibier. That would mean an enormous transfer from Treviso and Busseto, so I don't really trust this. But Tuttosport is always pretty reliable when it comes to hack the Giro route. According to the same article, after Galibier there would NOT be a rest day, but other two stages: Valloire - Ivrea and Castello Di Agilé - Bergamo.
The article then adds that there won't be 2 ITTs
And Vicenza will be involved in the third week.
The route would then look like this.

1 Napoli - Napoli [flat] (Napoli is official. Still not clear if TTT or road stage)
2 Ischia TTT ****(circuit if Napoli is TTT)
3 ??? - Ascea [hilly?] ****
4 ??? - Cosenza [hilly?] ****
5 ??? - ???
6 ??? - ???
7 ??? - ???
8 ??? - ???
9 Sansepolcro - Firenze [Worlds circuit] *****
REST (transfer to Cordenons)
10 Cordenons - Malghe Del Montasio [MTF] *****
11 Tarvisio (or Cave Del Predil) - Vajont [Hilly]*****
12 Longarone - Treviso [flat] *****
13 Busseto - Cherasco [hilly] ****
14 Cervere - Monte Jafferau [MTF] ****
15 Cesana - Galibier [MTF] ****
16 Valloire - Ivrea [hilly] ****
17 Castello Di Agilé - Bergamo [?] ****
REST
18 Mori - La Polsa [MTT] ****
19 Vicenza(?) - Val Senales [MTF] ****
20 ??? - Gavia [MTF] ****
21 Milano ITT ****

What a **** route that would be.

 

[Eshnar]

What a **** route that would be.

Yes.
And they say Wiggo will come